Loop Holes in Mission: SPACE

Britt

Well-Known Member
I have mentioned this on another thread before, but the first time that I road this attraction, I pulled back on the joystick and pressed the buttons as though the ride would shut down if I didn't participate. I realized that it was all unnecessary the second time when a kid next to me didn't do his part. Yeah, I'm a major dork. But...you know, cool.
Hahahahaha I love this reply!! I was yelling at Josh telling him to hit his buttons (it was my first time riding) he had tears streaming down his face laughing so hard to how "into it" I was!
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Hahahahaha I love this reply!! I was yelling at Josh telling him to hit his buttons (it was my first time riding) he had tears streaming down his face laughing so hard to how "into it" I was!
Sounds funny, but how cool is it that Disney creates such an environment intended to emerge you into the story, that you think if you dont participate, its not going to work? That to me is success on the part of Disney.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Thats not fair is it? What's that? New Years? In the weeks before and after Epcots 30th M:S had consistent waits of 10-15 minutes, both sides, different days and different times.

The picture is not to show the average - but to show the relative - and show the attraction can have a wait.. and not just 'rarely'. That was just the first image in the google hits. Feel free to post more if you like :)
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
The interior of the M:S vehicles is one of the most detailed around. Now if the whole thing were just some molded piece.. or sticker.. I'd say cheap. Instead we get actual switches, lights, articulation, etc. You get a ride system unlike any other in use, in scale.. this ride is anything but 'cheap'.

Tell me.. where else are you guys going to get a ride in a centrifuge?
 

luv

Well-Known Member
I suppose if you only go to a Disney park for the rides, then perhaps you should consider 6 flags or Universal. We really won't miss you that much. Go to some mindless place that you can appreciate. Someplace where you don't have to appreciate imagination and themeing and you can feed your adrenaline reaction needs.:rolleyes:
Uni is mindless with no imagination or theming?

Seriously?

Does Disney pay you to say that or do you not visit Uni on a regular basis?

It is true that if you want top-notch rides, Disney isn't the place for you...but there is nothing wrong with enjoying Disney or parks with top-notch rides. Disney has cute themes that are a great trade-off for ride awesomeness.

Uni may be the only park that strives to create both excellent rides and theming. Disney did that, too, once upon a time.

I like Mission:Space. It's a fun ride. I like the stuff you see while waiting in line. I think it's a great little ride! If I could turn back the clock, would I leave its predecessor? Yeah. But M:S is good.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member
The interior of the M:S vehicles is one of the most detailed around. Now if the whole thing were just some molded piece.. or sticker.. I'd say cheap. Instead we get actual switches, lights, articulation, etc. You get a ride system unlike any other in use, in scale.. this ride is anything but 'cheap'.

I just wish they would make all those switches and buttons *DO* something.

Or have alternate videos ("choose your own adventure"), so you can actually interact with it instead of just riding it. Perhaps you *don't* always nail the landing at the end...the shuttle falls over the cliff, screen goes red and flashes "SIMULATION FAILED" then gives you a score based on what you did inside the cabin.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Uni is mindless with no imagination or theming?

Seriously?

Does Disney pay you to say that or do you not visit Uni on a regular basis?

It is true that if you want top-notch rides, Disney isn't the place for you...but there is nothing wrong with enjoying Disney or parks with top-notch rides. Disney has cute themes that are a great trade-off for ride awesomeness.

Uni may be the only park that strives to create both excellent rides and theming. Disney did that, too, once upon a time.

I like Mission:Space. It's a fun ride. I like the stuff you see while waiting in line. I think it's a great little ride! If I could turn back the clock, would I leave its predecessor? Yeah. But M:S is good.

Check out post #70...I retracted that statement. I agree that Uni, is as close to being Disney as it can get. In fact, it even exceeds it in some areas. Misspoke originally. If it's a good enough excuse for politicians, it's good enough for me.:oops:
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
The picture is not to show the average - but to show the relative - and show the attraction can have a wait.. and not just 'rarely'. That was just the first image in the google hits. Feel free to post more if you like :)
Of course it can have a wait. It's an attraction! That was not in dispute. What was is that Eisners cloneable legacy ride flopped.

These are more typical:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomarthur/6199378646/

http://static.attractionsmagazine.com/wp-uploads/2011/10/img_4300.jpg
 

jonesenon4

Active Member
first to the op get a life its an amusement park ride your reading way to much into it.secondly if you dont like it dont ride it that simple.thirdly dont try and tear something down because you dont like it many who ride the attraction enjoy it including myself.last but not least im pretty sure you are a vast minority in your feelings toward this attraction.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Of course it can have a wait. It's an attraction! That was not in dispute. What was is that Eisners cloneable legacy ride flopped.

15-25 waits puts it right there with the rest of EPCOT sans TT and Soarin.

I didn't say anything about M:S not disappointing from what they expected to be.. but to say it rarely has a wait is factually incorrect, and that's what I was responding to.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
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I think the funnier message in this image is that despite the horrible '4th of July' lines Imagination is still a walk on...:confused:

That, and apparantly there are lots of people who would wait four hours for four minutes of Test Track! Wow!

M:S always draws crowds when I'm there. Seems quite popular. ( I really wish I had acccess to all those spreadsheets with ride counts that management no doubt has. The amount of evenings I would spend studying them!)
We EPCOT purists may resent it, but M:S, Soarin' and TT do draw crowds. The wrong crowds, of the wrong people, coming to the wrong park for the wrong reasons, but they do come. Albeit not in sufficient numbers: after all these years Epcot still draws no more guests than 'boring' EPCOT Center did. The destruction of FW was not just a disaster, but a needless one at that.
 

Cosmic Commando

Well-Known Member
I think the funnier message in this image is that despite the horrible '4th of July' lines Imagination is still a walk on...:confused:

That, and apparantly there are lots of people who would wait four hours for four minutes of Test Track! Wow!

M:S always draws crowds when I'm there. Seems quite popular. ( I really wish I had acccess to all those spreadsheets with ride counts that management no doubt has. The amount of evenings I would spend studying them!)
We EPCOT purists may resent it, but M:S, Soarin' and TT do draw crowds. The wrong crowds, of the wrong people, coming to the wrong park for the wrong reasons, but they do come. Albeit not in sufficient numbers: after all these years Epcot still draws no more guests than 'boring' EPCOT Center did. The destruction of FW was not just a disaster, but a needless one at that.
I have to imagine that if Nemo was at 60 minutes, Imagination would at least have some kind of wait... maybe they don't even bother with the FLIK card system over there? I've never seen it myself, but I've heard rumors of at least a 10-20 minute wait on crazy days like this. Kinda telling that EO was at 5 mins, though.
 

Cosmic Commando

Well-Known Member
The interior of the M:S vehicles is one of the most detailed around. Now if the whole thing were just some molded piece.. or sticker.. I'd say cheap. Instead we get actual switches, lights, articulation, etc. You get a ride system unlike any other in use, in scale.. this ride is anything but 'cheap'.

Tell me.. where else are you guys going to get a ride in a centrifuge?
You can pick up toggle switches for a couple bucks at Home Depot. It's actually hooking them to stuff that costs $$$.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Oh ok, seems a little forced but ok.

I'm not sure how it's forced. NASA just sent Curiosity to Mars. And I'm sure if humans ever go to Mars, a robotic team will land there before them to establish a safe landing site. In Mission: Space, that site is the Mars north polar ice cap.

Its a half-assed attraction that needs to be burnt to the ground so something worth while can be put in. I can honestly say I rarely see a wait for it.

Haha, good one. If it's so bad then why are you riding it? If you are only riding it for the short wait, (which btw is the only fair point you have made), then I recommend instead riding Living with the Land. It's the same wait time, the story is not forced, and if anything about the story confuses you, there is a behind the seeds tour that will explain everything.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
15-25 waits puts it right there with the rest of EPCOT sans TT and Soarin.

I didn't say anything about M:S not disappointing from what they expected to be.. but to say it rarely has a wait is factually incorrect, and that's what I was responding to.

Mission: Space is supposed to be an E-ticket. To that standard, it shouldn't be "right there in with the rest of Epcot" in terms of wait times. Whether it actually has a wait, be it 10, 15, 25 minutes is irrelevant. To say that it rarely has a wait compared to that of TT and Soarin (the other E-tickets) is factually accurate. And that was the whole point of saying Mission:Space rarely has a wait. As you said, where else are you going to ride a centrifuge? Don't you think something that unique would attract longer lines?

Whether it has long waits on a holiday is also irrelevant, because basically everything has a long wait on those days. Heck, even in your photo, Malestrom and the Epcot Character Spot both had longer waits than Mission: Space Green Team.

I think the short lines stem from the initial word that the ride was "too intense." Many people rode unaware of the likelyhood of motion sickness and were shocked by the intense G-force. That, coupled with the tragic deaths, are the reasons why I feel the lines are rarely long. Now, I personally love the attraction. The lift-off portion just never gets old. And really I shouldn't be complaining. Short lines means I can just experience one of my favorite attractions faster! Simple as that.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
I never understood the hate for Mission: Space. Unlike, say, Soarin', Mission: Space has all the ingredients of a proper, modern Disney E-Ticket. An actual story, a fictional setting with a fictional institution, in this case, the ISTC.

I also feel that the only thing that throws people off about whether or not you "actually" went to Mars is that Gary Sinese says "Welcome to Mars! ... and welcome to the astronaut force!" at the end of the ride. What he's really saying is "congratulations, you made it to Mars in the training simulation." Both pre-show videos state multiple times that you are doing a flight training simulation to prepare for the first manned mission to Mars. The second video specifically states that, in this simulation, robotic teams have already established your landing site. The ride system and capsules are not "themed" because you are not "actually" getting in to a rocket.

There really aren't any "loopholes".
 

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