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[Wannabe Walt]

1) You only have 6 rides in one park and 5 in another, I think you need more to draw any type of crowds esspcially since you have no iconic draw. also not sure you can sue sleeping beauty or not it was created by the Walt Disney company, it is not the title of the orginal Fairytale it had tow goign names one was Briar Rose and I think the other was Princess Auroa.

1) I don't get number 1!!!
2) It isn't Sleeping Beauty's Castle, it is Snow White's Castle
3) If it was Sleeping Beauty's Castle it most likely would get sued because of Disneyland's castle.

2)This relates to the number of rides but the ride diversity is really bad, partilally from the lack of rides but you have really poor diversification of a number of types of rides, for instance you only have water rides in one park.

1) Don's understand a word you are saying!!!

3) For claiming not to be a Disney park you have many, many simulatiries thorugh out, in many cases you seem to almost comlelty rip-off already established rides, the themes are general enough for you to do somehting compllety different with, so do so

1) Many of Disney's Fantasy themed rides can not be copyrighted except for the design and names. They are also not Disney's fairytales, most of them, so they have only authority over the names and design. Snow White's Adventures, I think I calledd it that, will be much different from Snow White's Scary Adventures in DL and WDW.
2) Some of my rides are new, "never-before-seen" rides

4) Millenium Central is still a terrible name, don't mean to be harsh but I already tried to help you with it and you didn't do a thing to the name, Millenium imples some sort of time restraint and Central is is too vauge of a definition is it meant geographically or idealogically, and the whole name in no way give any sort of clue to the theme, which honestly even from your ride descprtions I have no idea what it is, it seems like a mix between Sci-Fi and an Technology musuem.

1) I REALLY AGREE!!! I just cant think of a name. It is kinda hard because it is Technology, the Future, and astromomy so it is kinda hard for me. You might mhelp me there!

5) Sports company does not thrill me but that is just me personally, the only thing I have to say is look at how Wide World of Sports barley operates at a giaganitc meca of torusim then think how it might work at some new start up........

1) DO WHAT?!?!?!:lol:

 

[FigmentDream]

THis may be harsh but I am just trying to be blunt enough for you to apperantly understand

1) You don't have enough rides, the Disney company amde the term Sleeping Beauty period it is not the acutal name of the fairy tale

2)Can't really help you wiht ride diveristy if you don't get it, but you don't have enough differnt types of rides spread out through the parks like I said plainly you only have one park with water rides in it, there are no water rides in the other parks.

3)Doesn't matter if you change the ride you are still ripping of the themes there are other fairytales then the ones Disney made popular, maytbe you need to pick a new theme, and really I don't see that many new concpets everythign seems to be a dervative off of something at a Disney park in some way and saying "some" rides are new is not a good thing at all it should be all rides.

4) Already tried to help you with that once that is all your getting I am not going to do this for you


5) What I am saying is that WoS barley works at a place with lot's of people so it would fincaially nkot be able to operate at a new up start resort area that woudl nto draw nearly as many people atleast at first.

 

[imagineer boy]

What Figment Dream tried to say for #2 was that you have too many rides that sound like rides Disney already has.

Example: Mississippi Mine Train. Sounds like Big Thunder Mountain. I suggest that you make this a Disney park, because if you want to keep some of the rides, in your park that's not Disney, people would easily tell that you pretty much tried to copy from Disney. Believe me when I say that this should be a Disney park. It would be great. A little different from the average Magic Kingdom, with some old classics and brand new ones. That's just my suggestion. If you decide not to make it into a Disney park, then you'll have to make some changes, because it sounds like a Disney copier. And listen to Figment Dream, because he's right you know.

 

[FigmentDream]

Acutally it was #3 but thanks for the clarification

 

[Wannabe Walt]

Okay! Okay! I will make it a Disney park. It is now called Disney's Worlds of Discovery. The main park, that has Fairytale Kingdom, Frontier Town, and EPCOT (used to be Millennium Central, but because this is Disney it is now a small version of EPCOT), is now called The Enchanted Kingdom. Fairytale Kingdom is now called Fantasyland and Frontier Town is now Pioneer Village. Also two new additions are The Hundred Acre Forest, devoted entirely to the Winnie the Pooh characters, and Adventure Isle, devoted to the jungle and rainforests of the world. I will make some new ride and attractions lists today for The Enchanted Kingdom and the new park Wonders of the World, which is a larger version of World Showcase. Tell me what you think!!!!:sohappy:

 

[jmarc63]

OK I looked

 

[FigmentDream]

Sounds more promising......

 

[WeirdOne]

Okay, I've been following this topic for a while, and I'm just in awe...

Okay, first, WannabeWalt, you need to be as original and as cunning as possible. Don't always sway to what others tell you, stick to whatever you do best. Now, when real good critism such as mine and FigmentDream's comes along, you should listen, because we tend to carefully plan everything out to the last detail and make sure it is flawless. That's what you should be doing, not posting some half-completed half-started stuff and waiting for others to guide you. You need to have these completed and worthy of critism, otherwise, all you are doing is letting others do the work for you. I will personally not comment on this until I see a finished product that I can critise, not blue-sky.

Now, to get a better product, discuss this with your Imagineering buddies, friends, family, etc, but not on the boards because they can help guide you during the planning stages and the final product will be good and decent without having all of these extraneous posts and having others give largesse for you. Take suggestions from others, but again, keep all that in private until the final idea is ready, because even in my experience, posting an incomplete idea can easily get it stolen by somebody and made into something great. So, now work hard and take these suggestions to heart and come back with something decent and finished. - The WeirdOne

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by WeirdOne
Okay, I've been following this topic for a while, and I'm just in awe...

Okay, first, WannabeWalt, you need to be as original and as cunning as possible. Don't always sway to what others tell you, stick to whatever you do best. Now, when real good critism such as mine and FigmentDream's comes along, you should listen, because we tend to carefully plan everything out to the last detail and make sure it is flawless. That's what you should be doing, not posting some half-completed half-started stuff and waiting for others to guide you. You need to have these completed and worthy of critism, otherwise, all you are doing is letting others do the work for you. I will personally not comment on this until I see a finished product that I can critise, not blue-sky.

Now, to get a better product, discuss this with your Imagineering buddies, friends, family, etc, but not on the boards because they can help guide you during the planning stages and the final product will be good and decent without having all of these extraneous posts and having others give largesse for you. Take suggestions from others, but again, keep all that in private until the final idea is ready, because even in my experience, posting an incomplete idea can easily get it stolen by somebody and made into something great. So, now work hard and take these suggestions to heart and come back with something decent and finished. - The WeirdOne

Well said WeirdOne!:sohappy:

 

[Tim G]

Some advice...

Every theme park designer should know what's been done in the past.
Benchmarks and precedents are extremely important.
With that in mind, you should learn the ten guidelines to theme park design developed by Walt Disney Imagineering



Mickey's 10 Commandments

1) Know your audience - Don't bore people, talk down to them or lose them by
assuming that they know what you know.


2) Wear your guest's shoes - Insist that designers, staff and your board members
experience your facility as visitors as often as possible.


3) Organize the flow of people and ideas - Use good story telling techniques, tell good
stories not lectures, lay out your exhibit with a clear logic.


4) Create a weenie - Lead visitors from one area to another by creating visual magnets
and giving visitors rewards for making the journey


5) Communicate with visual literacy - Make good use of all the non-verbal ways of
communication - color, shape, form, texture.


6) Avoid overload - Resist the temptation to tell too much, to have too many objects,
don't force people to swallow more than they can digest, try to stimulate and
provide guidance to those who want more.


7) Tell one story at a time - If you have a lot of information divide it into distinct,
logical, organized stories, people can absorb and retain information more clearly if
the path to the next concept is clear and logical.


8) Avoid contradiction - Clear institutional identity helps give you the competitive
edge. Public needs to know who you are and what differentiates you from other
institutions they may have seen.


9) For every ounce of treatment , provide a ton of fun - How do you woo people from
all other temptations? Give people plenty of opportunity to enjoy themselves by
emphasizing ways that let people participate in the experience and by making your
environment rich and appealing to all senses.


10) Keep it up - Never underestimate the importance of cleanliness and routine
maintenance, people expect to get a good show every time, people will comment
more on broken and dirty stuff.

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by Corrus
Some advice...

Every theme park designer should know what's been done in the past.
Benchmarks and precedents are extremely important.
With that in mind, you should learn the ten guidelines to theme park design developed by Walt Disney Imagineering



Mickey's 10 Commandments

1) Know your audience - Don't bore people, talk down to them or lose them by
assuming that they know what you know.


2) Wear your guest's shoes - Insist that designers, staff and your board members
experience your facility as visitors as often as possible.


3) Organize the flow of people and ideas - Use good story telling techniques, tell good
stories not lectures, lay out your exhibit with a clear logic.


4) Create a weenie - Lead visitors from one area to another by creating visual magnets
and giving visitors rewards for making the journey


5) Communicate with visual literacy - Make good use of all the non-verbal ways of
communication - color, shape, form, texture.


6) Avoid overload - Resist the temptation to tell too much, to have too many objects,
don't force people to swallow more than they can digest, try to stimulate and
provide guidance to those who want more.


7) Tell one story at a time - If you have a lot of information divide it into distinct,
logical, organized stories, people can absorb and retain information more clearly if
the path to the next concept is clear and logical.


8) Avoid contradiction - Clear institutional identity helps give you the competitive
edge. Public needs to know who you are and what differentiates you from other
institutions they may have seen.


9) For every ounce of treatment , provide a ton of fun - How do you woo people from
all other temptations? Give people plenty of opportunity to enjoy themselves by
emphasizing ways that let people participate in the experience and by making your
environment rich and appealing to all senses.


10) Keep it up - Never underestimate the importance of cleanliness and routine
maintenance, people expect to get a good show every time, people will comment
more on broken and dirty stuff.

WOW!!!! That is amazing! Did you make this up or get it from somwhere? I'm going to write this down for futer needs.

 

[Wannabe Walt]

If you all think I should, I will totally go in rewind and start over with this idea. It will change A LOT!!! It (I think ) will be better. It will include many of the same things that it already does and it still will be a Disney park. It will no longer be called Worlds of Discovery though. I will come up with a new name.

 

[Tim G]

Originally posted by Wannabe Walt
If you all think I should, I will totally go in rewind and start over with this idea. It will change A LOT!!! It (I think ) will be better. It will include many of the same things that it already does and it still will be a Disney park. It will no longer be called Worlds of Discovery though. I will come up with a new name.

NO NO NO.... It wasn't to put you down or something...
Look at it, as an advice...

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
It's pretty good. I suggest you redo the Fantasey Kingdom thing. Add more Disney rides and things that have to do with enchantment and fairy tales. Don't make any thrill rides there.
The Frontier Town area sounds good, but add more rides.
Make Millenium central a combo of Futer World at Epcot and Tomorrowland. It would be interesting. Make some neat rides that are part science fiction and part fact. Sort of like Body wars, etc. Don't make it like "THE FUTER" sort of thing because that's how futer predictions television programs were like in the fifties. They couldn't have a single futer program without saying "THE FUTER"
Make the sports area seperate from the park. ( Sort of like the wide world of sports at WDW. That's all I have to say. I look forward to hearing your descriptions of your new rides.:wave:

*turns on sirens*

Please pull the post to the side of the thread.

You are in violation of.....just so many spelling errors here :lol:

let's start from the beginning (oh and I only chose this one post)
1. FANTASY
2. FUTURE (keep the "E" on the end...don't give the "E" the shaft)
3. SEPARATE (a lot of people think there are 3 "E's")

just some of the mistakes...
You have 20 days to pay the fine...or you can bring it to court if you do not feel this was fair.

Have a nice day...and www.dictionary.com is your friend

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by WDWFREAK53
*turns on sirens*

Please pull the post to the side of the thread.

You are in violation of.....just so many spelling errors here :lol:

let's start from the beginning (oh and I only chose this one post)
1. FANTASY
2. FUTURE (keep the "E" on the end...don't give the "E" the shaft)
3. SEPARATE (a lot of people think there are 3 "E's")

just some of the mistakes...
You have 20 days to pay the fine...or you can bring it to court if you do not feel this was fair.

Have a nice day...and www.dictionary.com is your friend

Now really, this is the internet. We can mispell words all we want.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
Now really, this is the internet. We can mispell words all we want.

Ahem...direct from www.dictionary.

misspell ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ms-spl)
tr.v. mis·spelled, or mis·spelt (-splt) mis·spell·ing, mis·spells
To spell incorrectly.

Yes, you CAN misspell words but what does that say about your character? And, we're just asking that you attempt to spell correctly...it helps everyone that is trying to read your posts. When you constantly misspell words, people lose the meaning of the post because they are trying to figure out what you are trying to spell.

 

[Wannabe Walt]

Allright, WDWFREAK53, just because you are a WDWMAGIC Premium Contributer, gives you what-so-ever NO right to come in the forums and start tellin people they have to spell thier words right. Imagineer Boy spells fine. I have no trouble AT ALL reading his spelling and posts. Now leave him alone about it. PLEASE!:fork:

 

[imagineergurl]

Originally posted by Wannabe Walt
Allright, WDWFREAK53, just because you are a WDWMAGIC Premium Contributer, gives you what-so-ever NO right to come in the forums and start tellin people they have to spell thier words right. Imagineer Boy spells fine. I have no trouble AT ALL reading his spelling and posts. Now leave him alone about it. PLEASE!:fork:

ok calm down, i noticed your kinda new here so we'll give you a break here. breath in out,in and out...

also i like your ideas but it just seems like your parks are exactly the same as the parks in wdw,just with different names.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by Wannabe Walt
Allright, WDWFREAK53, just because you are a WDWMAGIC Premium Contributer, gives you what-so-ever NO right to come in the forums and start tellin people they have to spell thier words right. Imagineer Boy spells fine. I have no trouble AT ALL reading his spelling and posts. Now leave him alone about it. PLEASE!:fork:

ahem...me being a contributor has nothing to do with this and if you would look back...I was doing it as a JOKE...second of all...I tried to be NICE about it explain to him...in a "roleplaying" way. Did I in any way TELL HIM HE MUST? I believe I said you CAN MISSPELL WORDS...BUT...(which is in NO WAY telling him that he MUST DO SOMETHING). I was just simply making him aware of something. And, if you ask around...it does get difficult to read some posts. I was doing it to help him out in a joking manner.

and now a little bit of advice for you...pick your battles wisely...

Now, I'm through

(thank you imagineergurl)

 

[Erika]

First of all- let's not start this contributor crap again PLEASE!!!

Second- the rest of us (I think?) realize it's a joke- if Imagineer Boy feels offended, all he has to do is PM Freak and let him know. He's not an A-hole. He's just having some fun.

Anyone with more than 5 posts should know better than to take Brian seriously anyway :lol: although his note at the end is true- too many misspelled words and nobody is going to bother.