Loaded gun found on Animal Kingdom ride

[Marc Gil]

I actually visited DAK last winter and saw a man with his family who had a pistol strapped to his belt. It was probably for self protection, but come on this is Disney World! The only real danger is a tourist running you over with his child's stroller. Oh and about the man with the pistol, he didn't look like he was getting into the park, then again I don't know their policy about this.

 

[Tim_4]

Correct. There are lots of things that I don't think there's a reason to do. As a recently retired ED physician who did his EM residency at the knife and gun club that is Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami I have seen too many gunshot wounds.
I was born in 1955, I have been to many movie theaters, I have been to many theme parks, I spent 4 years in high school; never ONCE have I felt like I needed to carry a weapon to any of them.

The people who obey gun laws aren't the ones murdering each other. I'd rather have good guys and bad guys armed than just the bad guys.

It's a very safe bet that Disney is more prepared to deal with a live-shooter situation than your average gun-toting citizen is.

Lol. Right. The 95 year old security guard is going to blink them to death with his scary flashlight.

I simply believe that if you feel the need to carry a gun at all times, regardless of whether or not that is allowed, for protection then you are at least slightly paranoid.

Tell that to the people who were at The Dark Knight Rises premier in Aurora, Colorado.

Some like to carry a flashlight (myself), some like to carry a knife, some like to carry a gun, it's just their own choice. Slightly paranoid? Maybe, or maybe they just like to feel prepared.

Yup. You don't carry because you THINK you'll need it, you carry IN CASE you need it. I don't think my house will fall in a sinkhole, either, but I still have insurance.

Why on earth do you need a gun loaded with hollow point bullets AT DISNEY WORLD?

In case an evil man ALSO brought his gun filled with hollow points.

 

[luv]

There's a difference between being prepared for an effing storm and bringing a loaded weapon to a place littered with children.

I seriously cannot believe you are trying to defend this guys 'right to carry' his gun into a theme park.

I feel ill. Not reading any more of this. I'm just glad it was found by a grandmother with enough common sense to report it to CM and not a child who might have thought it was a toy and fired it at someone.

I am as well prepared as I can be for a variety of unlikely events. I'm not paranoid.

Many people are unprepared for extended blackouts or storms...or driving their car into a body of water, lol. They aren't stupid.

It's just different ways of living lives.

 

[bsiev1977]

This is another instance of where are our priorities in life do not make a damn bit of sense! You can bring a loaded fire arm with hollow point rounds into a family oriented area like Disney. Then lose the loaded gun making it accessible to children who could of hurt or even killed themselves or someone else within seconds of finding it. Then go back to find your gun, display a piece of paper that anyone can get saying I'm "intelligent" enough to carry this fire arm in a concealed method into massive crowds. Then not only get your firearm back, keep your license, and not face any charges!? On top of that only be slapped on the wrist and asked to leave for the day and not TRESPASSED!!!

Meanwhile people get trespassed for taking construction photos on guest mid ways, wearing shirts with profanity, walking behind the scenes of abandoned buildings for life!! This guy brought a loaded firearm into a themepark and lost the thing! Someone wasn't going to offended or misguided by this, someone was going to get seriously hurt or killed if this turned south. This was so close to being a tragedy it's not acceptable. It's not funny, it's not tolerable, and it should of resulted in disciplinary action from Disney, the Orange County Sheriffs Office, and the US Government. He should of been trespassed for life, fined if not arrested for negligence, and his concealed permit revoked.

I am a firm believer in the right to bear arms but this country needs to do a better job at controlling who has this right. Bringing a loaded firearm into an environment with thousands of little children is the definition of negligence and he should of been made an example of. Some of this may seem harsh to some but god forbid this happens again. It won't seem so harsh then when someone's child shot and killed himself by accidental discharge on a family vacation. I'm disgusted at how this was handled by Disney, I'm disgusted you can be banned for the other things I listed but not this. You can bet I will be mailing in my thoughts to Disney today!

I'm going to refer to your third paragraph.
Bringing a loaded firearm isn't negligence. It may be against the rules of WDW, but in and if itself it's not negligence. What was negligent was that the man in question did not have it properly secured.

I do agree that the guy should be banned for longer than one day.

 

[Tim_4]

I actually visited DAK last winter and saw a man with his family that had a pistol strapped to his belt. It was probably for self protection, but come on this is Disney World! The only real danger is a tourist running you over with his child's stroller. Oh and about the man with the pistol, he didn't look like he was getting into the park, then again I don't know their policy about this.

Your comment just proved that it would be easy for a bad guy to get through security with a weapon. Meaning tourists and children ARENT the only danger you might potentially encounter.

 

[GLaDOS]

Tell that to the people who were at The Dark Knight Rises premier in Aurora, Colorado.

Because I'm sure they were all action heroes who would have popped up and dropped the bad guy.

But not before saying some witty one liner! Because that's how real life works!

 

[Marc Gil]

Your comment just proved that it would be easy for a bad guy to get through security with a weapon. Meaning tourists and children ARENT the only danger you might potentially encounter.

I was thinking about that the entire day when I was there. It's like you're not even safe anywhere these days. Sheesh

 

[luv]

Because I'm sure they were all action heroes who would have popped up and dropped the bad guy.

But not before saying some witty one liner! Because that's how real life works!

Believe it or not, not all armed people are morons.

 

[GLaDOS]

Believe it or not, not all armed people are morons.

Nor did I say they are or even come close to saying that in my post. But 99.9% of all armed people are also not used to being fired on themselves. It's not like the movies were everyone is ready to be fired on and fire back accordingly, no matter what they say.

 

[bsiev1977]

I actually visited DAK last winter and saw a man with his family who had a pistol strapped to his belt. It was probably for self protection, but come on this is Disney World! The only real danger is a tourist running you over with his child's stroller. Oh and about the man with the pistol, he didn't look like he was getting into the park, then again I don't know their policy about this.

Some people want to be prepared for anything. You say he doesn't need a gun at WDW. Look at the incident today. The guy who lost the pistol in AK didn't have any ill intent toward anyone, he was just stupid. But, he was able to carry his weapon into the park. Therefore, someone WITH bad intentions can just as easily get a weapon into the parks.

 

[luv]

Nor did I say they are or even come close to saying that in my post. But 99.9% of all armed people are also not used to being fired on themselves. It's not like the movies were everyone is ready to be fired on and fire back accordingly, no matter what they say.

It certainly sounded like you were implying they were all morons who thought real life was like the movies and they'd all be Arnold.

Glad to hear you know better!!!

 

[Tim_4]

Believe it or not, not all armed people are morons.

Lol @luv, looks like it took politics for you and I to finally agree on something.

 

[c-one]

Lol. Right. The 95 year old security guard is going to blink them to death with his scary flashlight.

Not buying that the response plan begins and ends with the onstage security. I'm sure the parks are crawling with "good guy" civilians who are experts on taking out an active shooter without collateral damage, though.

 

[bsiev1977]

It certainly sounded like you were implying they were all morons who thought real life was like the movies and they'd all be Arnold.

Glad to hear you know better!!!

I thought the same thing you did, reading that post.

 

[GLaDOS]

It certainly sounded like you were implying they were all morons who thought real life was like the movies and they'd all be Arnold.

Glad to hear you know better!!!

No, but I do think the "A Good Guy with a Gun" mentality is foolish, because it doesn't mean squat if the person is not prepared or able to fire back.

 

[luv]

Not buying that the response plan begins and ends with the onstage security. I'm sure the parks are crawling with "good guy" civilians who are experts on taking out an active shooter without collateral damage, though.

Are you sure?

I know a guy who works security and he isn't sure, lol. So I'm totally not sure. Hope so! Pray that they're prepared for it!!

If you just tell me that you have inside knowledge and really are SURE, I'll be happier!

 

[Tim_4]

Not buying that the response plan begins and ends with the onstage security. I'm sure the parks are crawling with "good guy" civilians who are experts on taking out an active shooter without collateral damage, though.

You'd hope so.

Full disclosure, I'm not supporting carrying at WDW. I dislike the rule, but it's the rule nonetheless and should be followed.

 

[Tim_4]

No, but I do think the "A Good Guy with a Gun" mentality is foolish, because it doesn't mean squat if the person is not prepared or able to fire back.

He's more prepared than the guy with nothing but a turkey leg in his hand.

 

[luv]

No, but I do think the "A Good Guy with a Gun" mentality is foolish, because it doesn't mean squat if the person is not prepared or able to fire back.

Do you think good guys shooting back is more foolish than just letting the bad guy kill little kids until he's had his fill of that activity?

Not trying to lead you anywhere! I know people do that and I'm not.

Just genuinely trying to understand the "Don't shoot back!" mentality. Promise.

 

[meyeet]

No, but I do think the "A Good Guy with a Gun" mentality is foolish, because it doesn't mean squat if the person is not prepared or able to fire back.

Is the Bad guy with a gun used to being fired at?