Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Tony the Tigger]

Correct… actually ABC could be the most factual… if you watch World New Tonight… the issue is with these 24 hour news channels… there is only so much news you can cover in a day…. So then they rely on so called “Opinions” to fill in the rest of the time…. But people take it as fact…which it most certainly is not

The problem is those who consume such media and believe everything they hear. I’ll watch Rachel Maddow with an open but discerning mind. Sometimes I’ll say out loud, “I don’t know if I’d go that far;” or if something sounds far fetched, I Google it to learn for myself.

You find it unbelievable that people would be upset at an actress who trashed the OG snow white movie while filming the new one, took public shots at her costar, is anti-Israel (at a minimum), and told millions of people that they do not deserve peace? Weird.

Most of those things are either exaggerated, assumed, or trivial. I don’t know what she said about whom, and I really don’t care. The fact that it’s being promoted where it is makes all of it suspect. See above about being discerning.

ETA it’s so sad to open this webpage and click “what’s new” only to see the same half dozen threads listed every single day.

Let’s make a new one! How about…oh, see, I have no ideas, either.

Trailer leaked:

That made me want to see it more. Looks like a Disney movie, and she sounded great. That song could be the next “How Far I’ll Go” or the like.

CGI-tastic.

I know. I hate it. Every time. I even just noticed CGI balloons popping in Wicked and it annoyed me for about a fifth of a second. But every movie has it now, so what can we do?

My only issue with the movie is that they didn't cast little people because of Peter Dinklage. I wish Disney hadn't caved on that. But if the movie gets good reviews I will go see it and bring the grandparents along.

I completely don’t care about this.

Here's the original video:



It was posted on Zegler's own YouTube channel in January 2023, long before her Snow White comments became the focus of so much feigned indignation.

To those of who you gleefully bought this fake news: that someone unearthed this video, misleadingly excerpted a clip from it, and then hoodwinked you into believing it was related to her comments of the other day should tell you a great deal about how artificial all of this "outrage" is. You are being taken for a ride by those who like to stir the pot and fan the flames of such "controversies" once they've started dying down. Some of you seem to enjoy the ride, but if that's the case, at least recognise that the problem lies as much in your appetite to dislike Zegler as it does in Zegler's impolitic behaviour. If you consider yourself a more sensible and reasonable person than her, then prove it through your actions. You don't have to be part of this endless cycle of online trolling and disinformation.

I could not put enough on this post. So here are some more:

all because of her comments about the 1937 film

Oh, I think there’s more to it than that, but for some reason, that particular truth is taboo around here. Just google the partial words: “Snow Bro” and the 5th thing down is “Snow Brown.” And you’ll see a whole lot of ugliness about her in this film having nothing to do with her politics, but who she is.

As far as I can tell, she apologized for making her comments public, and not that she was wrong for the way she feels. I’m sure she didn’t flip on a dime about how she feels regarding those that don’t think like her.

Happens all the time. She said what she had to say, like so many before her. Why act like it’s something new, or that it’s clever to know she probably didn’t mean most of it?

she could only watch the original once.

Same. Boring AF.

you had a good chance of living to a ripe old rage.

Freudian slip?

I don’t hate Zegler, I just think she’s an idiot who needs to learn what is and isn’t appropriate to

I think she’s a 20something who doesn’t know anything. Why would I care what a 23 year old says about Palestine? Her opinion is lacking perspective. She got famous very young and lives in a bizarro world that sends many of them spiraling in all kinds of unhealthy ways. She has no capacity to comprehend the complexities of the Middle East. Likewise, edited clips of videos with opinion blurbs don’t make anyone comprehend her.

23 year olds think they know stuff. They think things are more black and white. I speak from experience. When I was 23, I had a lot of opinions based on little experience. I would have told you gay people were wrong to exist, no one should have an abortion, and other embarrassing (often stereotypical) things about certain kinds of people. I don’t take a 23 year old actor’s opinions seriously. Sorry, Rachel.

And I agree with her sentiments about certain voters but I (and I suspect she) don’t take it so literally. I think, much like with George W Bush, it took the majority of Americans too long to realize he was wrong about Iraq. That’s not to make a political statement, but to compare then and now. I believe many voters this time around are taking too long to wise up, and will live to realize that eventually.

 

[LittleBuford]

I could not put enough on this post. So here are some more:

Freudian slip?

Ha! You know, perhaps it was! It tickles me so much that I'm not even going to correct it!

 

[Farerb]

The trailer in better quality:

 

[Farerb]

I don't like the new song. It sounds like a generic princess pop ballad like the kind they used to release that used to be sung by Disney channel stars in the mid 2000s like this one:

 

[Tony the Tigger]

The trailer in better quality:

Thank you! Much better without the words on the screen.

Also the dwarfs look worse lol. But again, that’s in most fantasy or similar movies these days.

In the context of this conversation, I think it’s hysterical that they chose to use the quote of the Queen telling Snow White something like, “I don’t remember you being so opinionated.”

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I don't like the new song. It sounds like a generic princess pop ballad like the kind they used to release that used to be sung by Disney channel stars in the mid 2000s.

I don’t like any of those songs. They all sound the same, and I’m not the intended audience. They get popular, win awards, and end up in the fireworks montage. No reason this one couldn’t do likewise; it sounds like all the other ones to me.

 

[Disney Irish]

The trailer played in front of my screening of Wicked tonight. The beats that I saw match fairly closely to the original with additional content added to flesh out the story more.

I think if given half a chance many Disney fans will enjoy it based on what I can pick up from the trailer.

 

[TP2000]

You actually don’t know that. Until I corrected you, you were fooled into thinking the video had to with the current “controversy”.

I don't know that I was "fooled" into anything. I saw another video of Miss Zegler being, well, Miss Zegler. And it made me chuckle.

Her own words in videos she purposely puts out on the Internet for the world to view speak for themselves. But that's what social media does, and has always done. It's not new.

But don't worry gang, Miss Zegler's latest is old news as of Thursday afternoon. Now the world has moved on to that ridiculously cringey and weird Jaguar commercial as they try to Bud Light themselves into non-existence. I owned a Jaguar once in the late 80's, a slightly used tan XJ6 sedan with gorgeous burgundy leather interior. The late 80's was also during my famous Rugby Shirt phase when I was heading into middle age and trying to look sporty. That phase actually kind of worked for me ,and although British cars have awful reputations for reliability that Jaguar served me rather well for a few years. Even when I wasn't wearing a rugby shirt.

That said, I have no earthly idea what the brain trust at Jaguar is thinking with their new campaign of sad looking and unattractive people in weird outfits that make them look even sadder. Other than putting themselves out of business in the USA rather quickly.

 

[LittleBuford]

I don't know that I was "fooled" into anything. I saw another video of Miss Zegler being, well, Miss Zegler. And it made me chuckle.

You were fooled. Or rather, you willingly took the bait, because fake outrage matters more than facts or decorum.

 

[TP2000]

You were fooled. Or rather, you willingly took the bate, because fake outrage matters more than facts or decorum.

Have you ever been on social media in the past 10 years? That's all it is. Bait videos of wacky road rage incidents and crazed Karens freaking out at the Apple store genius bar.

It serves its purpose though, to make one chuckle. And Miss Zegler has yet to disappoint on that.

 

[LittleBuford]

Have you ever been on social media in the past 10 years? That's all it is.

Not the kind of social media you consume. To the extent that I can, I steer clear of trolls and other agitators. I consider the dross they peddle unworthy of attention, and when it does cross my path (generally in this forum, alas), I take the few simple steps needed to fact-check. It’s telling and ironic that you were the one lecturing me earlier about the unreliability of mainstream news!

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Not the kind of social media you consume. To the extent that I can, I steer clear of trolls and other agitators. I consider the dross they peddle unworthy of attention, and when it does cross my path (generally in this forum, alas), I take the few simple steps needed to fact-check. It’s telling and ironic that you were the one lecturing me earlier about the unreliability of mainstream news!

It’s to the point you can quickly detect the fake news designed to create faux outrage just by the source or the tone.

When something sounds silly, it’s often false, exaggerated, taken out of context.

Anything negative against Rachel is now suspect, and I would fact check before believing it.

Others are sheep, just spoon fed lies and giddily spreading them, being told what to think and mindlessly complying.

 

[TP2000]

Not the kind of social media you consume. To the extent that I can, I steer clear of trolls and other agitators. I consider the dross they peddle unworthy of attention, and when it does cross my path (generally in this forum, alas), I take the few simple steps needed to fact-check. It’s telling and ironic that you were the one lecturing me earlier about the unreliability of mainstream news!

Most of social media is not news. It is inhabited by a lot of news folks, especially on Twitter. But Tik Tok and Instagram and whatever else? That's not a news outlet, with real editors and institutional standards and an AP Style Book and such.

Equating funny videos of narcissistic actresses and Karens freaking out at customer service clerks with hard news is odd.

It's just social media. And it's Miss Rachel Zegler on social media, which so far always means a good time and fun laughs!

Snow White!

 

[LittleBuford]

Most of social media is not news.

I’m not the one treating it as such or spreading false information on the basis of mendacious posts. That would be you.

 

[TP2000]

I’m not the one treating it as such or spreading false information on the basis of mendacious posts. That would be you.

Let's post it again, because it's really funny and it's late at night and I'm ready to giggle.

You guys, she's just like the Winged Victory statue at the Louvre! People will line up to see her work for the rest of time!

 

[LittleBuford]

Others are sheep, just spoon fed lies and giddily spreading them, being told what to think and mindlessly complying.

I think that’s letting some of them off too easily. A good number are smart enough to know better but choose to perpetuate falsehoods and fuel discord for reasons that are entirely beyond me. It’s very unfortunate, all the more so on a website devoted to Disney.

 

[TP2000]

I think that’s letting some of them off too easily. A good number are smart enough to know better but choose to perpetuate falsehoods and fuel discord for reasons that are entirely beyond me. It’s very unfortunate, all the more so on a website devoted to Disney.

Because many of us have higher standards for Disney. Or at least, what Disney used to be.

Can you imagine Helen Reddy going on Johnny Carson in 1977 to publicize Pete's Dragon and she turns to Johnny and says "You know, John, I hope all the people who voted for Gerald Ford never know peace in their lives." ???

I can't. Helen Reddy was a great talent (I think she's still with us, right?), and she was very likely a liberal woman (hear me roar, and all that). But she wouldn't have said that type of thing on TV in '77 in the lead up to her Disney movie premiere. And if she did and insulted half the country, Disney would can her ASAP. But Ms. Reddy never would dare do that, because she was a professional.

Snow White may be a great movie in '25. Who knows at this point? But Rachel Zegler has made it all about her and her insufferably elitist smugness, and she keeps putting her foot in her mouth. Over and over again. And her PR tour on late night talk shows doesn't even start until February!

I doubt Disney will ever hire her again. But Disney also really needs to rethink and rework their legal agreements with their talent on what they say online, and how they say it. Because so far this has been a disaster for Snow White.

 

[LittleBuford]

Because many of us have higher standards for Disney.

If only you had higher standards for your own online conduct.

 

[TP2000]

Aw, crap. I just Googled. Helen Reddy passed away four years ago.

She was great overall, and that song she sang on the lighthouse in Pete's Dragon was wonderful!

 

[TP2000]

If only you had higher standards for your own online conduct.

I try to be polite and kind, but also truthful. I'm not going to pretend or lie about my personal opinions. You don't do that, do you? I don't get the feeling you do.

But then, I'm here for free. Disney doesn't pay me anything. I'm a comfortably retired man, so I can say and do whatever I want. Rachel Zegler was paid several million dollars for her work on Snow White. You'd think that large salary would include instructions and guidelines from Disney on how to speak to the press and how to conduct oneself on social media.

Rachel Zegler has taught a masterclass the past two years on how to torpedo your own tentpole movie. Incredible!