Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

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Trauma

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It’s easy to say something was doomed from the start in hindsight. Plus we don’t actually know how it’s going to do. People were very pessimistic about the Moana sequel when that was first announced, yet all signs now point to a blockbuster.
I think that was because it was some made for TV thing that was switched to movie and people thought it was going to just be a D+ show.

I think once that was cleared up people where excited for Moana.
 

LittleBuford

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I hope the movie tanks hard for several reasons. Sorry not sorry.
I suspect your wish will be granted.

As for me, I hope it does well if it’s any good and badly if it isn’t. The remakes have always frustrated me in this regard, because how much they’ve made at the box office isn’t correlated with their quality (I’m looking at you, Lion King).
 

erasure fan1

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i believe you are overestimating the amont of people that even heard her comments…..unless you follow a certain section of YouTube…. And many of those have already decided Disney bad…. Not everybody follows pop culture like some of us in this corner of the internet… many people will just see a trailer and if it looks good or others recommend to them… may decide to see it
That might be correct. But you might be underestimating the amount of people who just follow news in general. Sure, not many might have seen the original post. But every news outlet has her apology as a story. So if someone didn't see the original post, there's a good possibility they clicked to see what it was all about. Let's say it's a small percentage of people who have seen the posts. This movie is going to need all the help it can get. It really doesn't need the shenanigans, even if it's a smaller amount.
 

erasure fan1

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I get that, and again reading something into it that isn't there.
I'm sorry but if zegler liked the post it is not reading into anything. That's not something you can spin. The whole point of liking a post is to endorse it. Please explain what is being read into, because I don't see it.
 

Disney Irish

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I mean, if she liked it having actually looked at it, then I don’t think one can call that reading into things.

I'm sorry but if zegler liked the post it is not reading into anything. That's not something you can spin. The whole point of liking a post is to endorse it. Please explain what is being read into, because I don't see it.
This again goes back to what I'm talking about, people are reading more into this than is actually there.

The original tweet which Zegler liked is not what you guys are thinking. The "Kie" account who tweeted it originally is a fan of Zegler, to me it looks like they are pointing out the differences in her style at each event, and that is what she liked. Its the poster here and everyone else that is trying to make it about her demeanor in the pictures, which isn't not.
 

BrianLo

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For years now Disney movies have been struggling

In the end it was actually only really one year. This year has been incredibly successful; as was 2022 considering the environment it was in. Even 2023 wasn’t a total write off with Guardians, Poor Things and Elemental breaking through.

So how much does this dumpster fire have to make to break even?

675 million, which is admittedly a terrible setup for the movies prospects. Looks like they blew the bank on the CGI dwarves.
 

erasure fan1

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I suppose it's possible she liked it without reading it, but that sort of carelessness is risky, and it would still be her responsibility if that's what happened.
I'm just not sure how it's reading in to anything. If you posted, I hate Zegler and she should never work in Hollywood again!!! And I like that post. That is a clear endorsement of that post. It's pretty clear in my opinion.
 

BrianLo

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All I’ll really say on this movie is I think it’s going to be another mundane remake and I think everyone’s going to be incredibly dissapointed in how non-controversial they actually made it. 😂

It’s the fumes of the 2023 banter here that the company has already clearly pivoted from.
 

Disney Irish

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I have a "burner" Twitter account (I created it so I could communicate with Microsoft when they weren't responding to my emails) and found the original post. Yes, it's a Zegler fan account, but pretty much all the replies to it, written by other Zegler fans, are intepreting it the same way: as an indication of her dislike of Gadot. Go and look for yourself if you don't believe me.
I have that is how I know the context of this whole thing.
 

Disney Irish

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OK, so you agree that most of the replies are from Zegler fans who interpret the juxtaposition of photos as proof of her dislike of Gadot? And if not, what is your reading?
I agree that is what the replies are interpreting, but I don't agree that is what the original tweet was about nor why Zelger liked it. Now maybe I'm incorrect but it reads differently to me, as I mentioned previously.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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You may be right. I just don't think most cinema-goers (however they lean ideologically) allow politics to affect their choices to such an extent.
I don’t think politics affects those decisions nearly as much as likability, there’s a lot of movies I’ll go see simply because I love the actors in it, there’s also movies I’ll avoid because I dislike actors in it.

Zegler comes off as smug and condescending so for me she falls into the dislike category, not boycott worthy like Chris Brown or Ezra Miller but not someone I’m rushing out to see either.
 

Disney Irish

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What is your reading?
Its in my post -

This again goes back to what I'm talking about, people are reading more into this than is actually there.

The original tweet which Zegler liked is not what you guys are thinking. The "Kie" account who tweeted it originally is a fan of Zegler, to me it looks like they are pointing out the differences in her style at each event, and that is what she liked. Its the poster here and everyone else that is trying to make it about her demeanor in the pictures, which isn't not.

So if I'm reading it that way, its very possible Zegler read it that way and why she liked it.
 

BrianLo

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I don’t think politics affects those decisions nearly as much as likability, there’s a lot of movies I’ll go see simply because I love the actors in it, there’s also movies I’ll avoid because I dislike actors in it.

Zegler comes off as smug and condescending so for me she falls into the dislike category, not boycott worthy like Chris Brown or Ezra Miller but not someone I’m rushing out to see either.

What will be interesting is the lead of Wicked is also receiving a lot of blowback. She’s more of a diva than anything outright political.

I’m actually not at all bothered that Zegler is disliked. She’s very much opened herself up to it, unlike Halle and Iman, who were clearly targeted by people trying to serve their political or financial gain.
 

Disney Irish

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Sorry for missing that.

I find your reading extremely unlikely given that "kie" herself wrote, "rachel is so funny for this i love her bad". There's nothing funny about the fact that she's wearing a long gown in one photo and a mini-dress in the other, so I very much doubt that's the difference that's being highlighted.
You're again reading something that may or may not be what you think it is. Flip it around, what would be "so funny" to her fan about Zegler's demeanor in the picture? There is nothing funny about the picture. So it goes both ways.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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and no interwebs.
I think this is the primary reason, 30 years ago the only thing we knew about most celebrities was what they shared on the Tonight Show or in interviews. Now that we have social media many celebrities (and average joes) share every detail of their life, the good and the bad.

@TP2000

So how much does this dumpster fire have to make to break even?

I’ve seen speculation ranging from $500 million to a billion just to break even, outside of Disney I doubt anyone really knows though.

What will be interesting is the lead of Wicked is also receiving a lot of blowback. She’s more of a diva than anything outright political.

I’m actually not at all bothered that Zegler is disliked. She’s very much opened herself up to it, unlike Halle and Iman, who were clearly targeted by people trying to serve their political or financial gain.

There’s unfortunately a lot of examples of actors getting unearned backlash and hate, I wasn’t a fan of the casting of Halle but never felt any animosity to her because of it, she did as good a job as possible in the controversial (to many) position Disney placed her in, the Iman hate was even more bizarre because she was perfectly cast for the role and played the part exceptionally well, I disliked some of the show writing but she didn’t do anything to deserve any dislike, even in Marvels she was the highlight of the movie. Zegler has earned a lot of the dislike but I still don’t understand the outright hate, people are too quick to vilify anyone they disagree with, she’s unlikable but that’s really about it.
 

Disney Irish

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What's "funny" is the contrast between her glum expression while standing next to one costar and her happy expression while standing next to the other. Her fans certainly seem to think so.
Sorry but I don't read it that way, so we just see it different. I've read through that account, and they idolize Zegler, and they don't seem like the type that would find a glum expression from their "idol" as "so funny".
 
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