Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Monkee Girl]

I have no idea what you mean by that, but it is certainly not my opinion. I actually love seeing diverse Disney movies. I wish they would find some African or Indian or Korean, etc fairy tales and adapt them and have more diverse characters. I don't want to see them take older movies and change existing characters though.

There are soooooo many stories Disney hasn't even touched yet and they refuse to do them. It's insane. And they keep rehashing what seems like the same 10 stories. Bearskin, coat of many colors, snow white and rose red, brother and sister.

I love faery tales and watch many of them. Heck, I just went through 3 Cannon films this weekend. So it's not a matter of not liking other versions of stories. I WISH Disney had used the live actions to do different versions of their tales. Why did the Little Mermaid have to be a weak remake of the cartoon and tick fans off? Sell them nostalgia then subvert their expectations and make them mad While also shoe horning the creative team into a narrow box when they could have chosen to do a story more based on the original book; maybe slightly darker in tone than the original giving us new characters and something new to experience. And they could have used the morals in that book to coincide with the modern sensibilities of today. Ariel does NOT end up with the prince in that story after all. There's no point in me watching the live action 'frame by frame' remake when the superior cartoon exists. It just comes off lazy and unartistic.

That's why Cinderella is the superior 'Disney Princess' live action remake for me. It was different. Still paid some homage to the original but allowed the director the creative freedom to expand where he wanted and because people KNEW it wasn't a direct remake, they were more open to changes. and it felt fresh and exciting. I have yet to feel that way about any of the other remakes and it's a shame.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Again, I’m looking to get away from the debates surrounding the movies and asking people to speak specifically to their own, firsthand experience of recent Disney films they’ve watched. So far, no-one has responded.

What I’m saying is that I think the surrounding debate is the issue though. Imagine a member of a marginalized group on the Left watching a documentary made by Fox News entitled “Love For Jesus and America”. Even though those should be topics everyone can agree on (whether you’re Christian or not Jesus’s message was compassion and acceptance, even if we have criticisms we should love our country if we’re living in it.) the context surrounding such topics is what people react to. Similarly, I don’t know that it’s specific content in Disney movies that causes feelings of alienation, it’s the sense that Disney is making a statement about their political loyalties. Again, I think it’s sad that this is where we’re at, but if I’m trying to understand people’s perspective, that’s my theory.

 

[DKampy]

That's why Cinderella is the superior 'Disney Princess' live action remake for me. It was different. Still paid some homage to the original but allowed the director the creative freedom to expand where he wanted and because people KNEW it wasn't a direct remake, they were more open to changes. and it felt fresh and exciting. I have yet to feel that way about any of the other remakes and it's a shame.

This was The Little Mermaid but people mad because Ariel’s pigmentation was different

 

[Tha Realest]

I mean, intersex people exist. They are born that way and they probably deserve some representation onscreen. Not sure Snow White is the best place for it, but I wouldn't object to one of Snow White's seven companions being intersex.

I hope this view prevails, and one of the magical creatures is intersex.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Personally? I don't think so, other than I really hate these live action remakes, so I'm just not seeing them. But, I also have never heard anyone complain that the original movies made them feel alienated either. Again, I think the issue for Disney has been they are creating too large a group of people who don't want to see it. Now it's not just people like me who just don't like these remakes, now you've got people upset that you are changing the original while keeping the title, and people upset at what they see as attacks on the original movies, and people who just are angry with all things Disney at this point.

As much as I loved Disney movies as a kid, I actually did feel alienated by some of them, specifically the princess movies. I didn’t see any Disney princess that looked like me until 2009 with PatF; I was 17. I actually briefly touched on this in an essay I submitted to Disney for a writing competition I don’t know how many years ago. The prompt asked contestants if they could have been a part of the making of any Disney movie, which one would they choose. I wrote about my experiences as a little black girl watching Disney movies with lots of white main characters, but no black ones, until PatF. I chose PatF and wrote about how I would have loved to have contributed to adding pieces of the black experience to the movie, adding pieces of the culture. I was runner-up in the competition and I didn’t know it until I received a prize in the mail with a note from Disney, congratulating me.

Again, Disney is NOT changing the original animated films. The only animated film I can think of on the top of my head that’s been changed is Fantasia. Why some of you keep saying this, I don’t know.

 

[GhostHost1000]

The Little Mermaid but people mad because Ariel’s pigmentation was different they unnecessarily changed the way Ariel looked from the original movie.

Fixed your post

 

[Casper Gutman]

Fixed your post

Every live-action version of an animated character looks and sounds entirely different from their animated counterpart, most obviously because one is INK and PAINT and one is FLESH and BLOOD. The differences are infinite, but their is only one particular difference that causes outrage, one that people define as “changing the original.”

Oh, and it’s incredibly important not to confuse PATRIOTISM and NATIONALISM. They are profoundly different concepts.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Every live-action version of an animated character looks and sounds entirely different from their animated counterpart, most obviously because one is INK and PAINT and one is FLESH and BLOOD. The differences are infinite, but their is only one particular difference that causes outrage, one that people define as “changing the original.”

Oh, and it’s incredibly important not to confuse PATRIOTISM and NATIONALISM. They are profoundly different concepts.

It’s also incredibly important to not confuse smart decisions vs dumb ones that will effect the movies performance and profits but Disney hasn’t figured that out

 

[LittleBuford]

What I’m saying is that I think the surrounding debate is the issue though. Imagine a member of a marginalized group on the Left watching a documentary made by Fox News entitled “Love For Jesus and America”. Even though those should be topics everyone can agree on (whether you’re Christian or not Jesus’s message was compassion and acceptance, even if we have criticisms we should love our country if we’re living in it.) the context surrounding such topics is what people react to. Similarly, I don’t know that it’s specific content in Disney movies that causes feelings of alienation, it’s the sense that Disney is making a statement about their political loyalties. Again, I think it’s sad that this is where we’re at, but if I’m trying to understand people’s perspective, that’s my theory.

I fully agree with you, which is why I’m trying to ask people to look beyond the feelings aroused by the topic and reflect instead on their firsthand experience of the films themselves. These discussions have become so ideologically overdetermined that the movies in question are barely talked about. I think another approach could be more fruitful.

 

[LittleBuford]

Personally? I don't think so, other than I really hate these live action remakes, so I'm just not seeing them. But, I also have never heard anyone complain that the original movies made them feel alienated either. Again, I think the issue for Disney has been they are creating too large a group of people who don't want to see it. Now it's not just people like me who just don't like these remakes, now you've got people upset that you are changing the original while keeping the title, and people upset at what they see as attacks on the original movies, and people who just are angry with all things Disney at this point.

Thank you for your response.

 

[LittleBuford]

That's why Cinderella is the superior 'Disney Princess' live action remake for me. It was different. Still paid some homage to the original but allowed the director the creative freedom to expand where he wanted and because people KNEW it wasn't a direct remake, they were more open to changes. and it felt fresh and exciting. I have yet to feel that way about any of the other remakes and it's a shame.

Why don’t you think the bolded applies to The Little Mermaid?

 

[LittleBuford]

The only animated film I can think of on the top of my head that’s been changed is Fantasia.

And that back in the ’60s, which I mention because so many people mistakenly think these debates about “political correctness” are new.

 

[Monkee Girl]

Why don’t you think the bolded applies to The Little Mermaid?

Because Mermaid was sold as a frame for frame remake where Cinderella was not.

 

[Californian Elitist]

And that back in the ’60s, which I mention because so many people mistakenly think these debates about “political correctness” are new.

RIGHT. It’s not new and has never been new.

People just say anything sometimes. Not a single animated film with a live-action counterpart has been changed.

 

[LittleBuford]

Because Mermaid was sold as a frame for frame remake

No it absolutely wasn’t.

 

[DKampy]

Fixed your post

Ok because outward appearances matter to the story

 

[Chi84]

Fixed your post

I hope you answer this. How do you think Ariel differed from the original other than what you crossed out? Did you see the movie?

 

[GhostHost1000]

I hope you answer this. How do you think Ariel differed from the original other than what you crossed out? Did you see the movie?

I did and it was just an unnecessary move but done to check a corporate box that they did it. It would have been better to create a new character, story, movie.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Ok because outward appearances matter to the story

See above

 

[Chi84]

I did and it was just an unnecessary move but done to check a corporate box that they did it. It would have been better to create a new character, story, movie.

Okay but if it’s her race you’re talking about why did you cross out what you did?