Aladdin and The Lion King (the first of which I thought was OK, the second of which I hated) came after a string of earlier remakes. There was no bait-and-switch; people knew what they were getting and paid—over a billion in each case—to get it. We’ve only had one major cinematic remake since then, The Little Mermaid, whose performance by itself simply doesn’t provide us with enough information about public appetite for such films going forward.
We don’t yet know the the ways and degree to which love will feature in Snow White. I wouldn’t get preemptively angry about it.
Especially considering the unfortunate controversy surrounding it.
No. I brought up box office to show a point of fatigue. I've been pretty up front with my position on box office. I've said multiple times great box office doesn't equal a great film. I'll bring up Prince of Persia again. I thought it was really good. But I completely understand why they abandoned it. It made no money and was a complete financial loss. But I'm not going to sit here and argue when people say it was a flop, because it was.
You seem to inject things into posts that aren't there to begin with. I never said bait and switch. When I say nostalgia bait, I'm talking about the marketing. They are playing on peoples nostalgia of the original. And when you watch the trailers, that's exactly what they are doing.And maybe, just maybe, people are getting a bit tiered of it. I'm sure a lot of people went into Aladdin and lion king with high hopes because of the originals, then they were disappointed with what they got.
I’m not sure how the scenario you’re describing—whereby people were lured by the “nostalgia bait” (your phrase) but left the cinema disappointed with what they actually got—isn’t bait-and-switch. If you really object to my use of that term, I can edit my post, but it would make absolutely no difference to my point.
Just because you don't like something, or were disappointed, doesn't make it a bait and switch. No need to edit, I just found it odd because the two things are pretty different. It doesn't make a difference to your point but isn't really related to mine. Think of it like a Disney cupcake. You see it and say, I love cupcakes! You then eat it and think it was too sugary, not a lot of flavor... Disney might sell a lot of them based on people love cupcakes and they look good. That doesn't mean they taste good, or that it's a bait and switch.
Then I'm not sure I understand your point. Do you view Aladdin and the The Lion King as marking some sort of turning point in how people responded to the remakes?
Yes, it goes back to my original post that people are tired of the remakes and that's played into all the snow white stuff. Just because those two movies made a ton of money doesn't necessarily mean all is sunshine and roses with the remakes. You said yourself you hated lion king. It seems to me, that those movies were somewhat of a straw that broke the camels back. Two extremely beloved films that most seem to no longer care about the live action versions at all. Is it the only thing at play? Absolutely not. But it is a factor that plays into what's going on now in my opinion.
Thank you for explaining.
As I've noted before, I'm generally ambivalent when it comes to the remakes, but remaking something as recent as Moana seems really silly to me. But again, if enough people pay to see it, Disney will only continue down this route.
What lessons could they draw about the remakes from a list of films that are mainly original?
I think it’s too early to tell, movies take years to develop and create so anything they‘ve learned probably won’t materialize until 2025.
I don't think interest has dried up completely. I'd say waning is a better way to say it. But you are right, the next couple will tell us if the arrow is pointing up or down.
I wonder how many people (outside of the super fans here) grew up with the actual movie rather than the “story.”
