Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

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Ghost93

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TP2000 said:
It will be interesting to see how it does at the box office, considering the financial fate of the last two Rachel Zegler movies; West Side Story, and Shazam Fury Of The Gods.
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I really think Snow White will be the first real test of Zegler's stardom.

She was an unknown when the West Side Story remake came out. The movie was critically acclaimed, but I think it flopped because older audiences still love the 1961 version and didn't see a need for a remake and younger audiences simply don't care about West Side Story. Seeing West Side Story is what initially made me optimistic about Zegelr as Snow White, as her portrayal of Maria embodied the sweetness and innocence that the original version of Snow White had. She can also sing well.


She didn't have a huge role in Shazam Fury of the Gods, which flopped due to middling reviews, superhero fatigue, distrust in the DC brand, and everyone dogpiling on Zachary Levi. I don't think any sane person would say Shazam 2 flopped due to Zegler. In fact, by the time the movie came out, I doubt most people even knew who she was at the time.
 
erasure fan1

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Ghost93 said:
I don't think any sane person would say Shazam 2 flopped due to Zegler. In fact, by the time the movie came out, I doubt most people even knew who she was at the time.
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The issue that she could face, is it doesn't matter if it was her fault. Lets say hunger games doesn't do well. And then what if snow white is a failure as well. Now you're the actress with 4 big budget flops in a row. Not a good look for any actor or actress. Hollywood can be a fickle place. Heck, even if one is a hit, that's still 3 of 4 majors underperforming. That's still not great.
 
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BuddyThomas said:
Curse?????? She won the Golden Globe as Maria in West Side Story. You probably know this just as you probably know The Hunger Games series is a worldwide phenomenon. She was also nominated for 18 additional awards for West Side Story and she won three of them - four in total. She is not a box office curse.
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Box Office is not an award show situation. Box Office is Ticket sales.

She is a box office negative trend.

I am sure Disney will be so thrilled for The Hunger Games movie to do well? As their movies flop?
 
Monkee Girl

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
This brings up an interesting question... if Snow White loses money, or even breaks even, will that change Disneys attitude towards the remakes?

They’ve now done the renaissance era films (BaTB, LM, LK) and they will have done the best known early era films (Cinderella, Snow White, Alice, Jungle Book, etc), what’s next? Do they start the CG era films like Tangled, etc? We know Moana’s on the table, I wonder what the future holds for the remakes.
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My opinion on what I would love to see remade are the movies that WEREN'T hits. the films that either flopped because of poor story or the effects weren't there for the time. Films that could be changed a bit and 'fixed'. They could have done The Black Cauldron, or Atlantis, or Treasure Planet. They really missed out on The Black Cauldron during their early 2000s LotR era. Even Hunchback would have been cool, especially with the buzz around the theatrical production. I have had no interest to see a frame by frame remake of the movies I personally grew up with and loved like Aladdin, Little Mermaid and Beauty and the beast. but the ones that didn't get the love and popularity would have been interesting to see what they could do with a live action interpretation.
 
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Monkee Girl said:
My opinion on what I would love to see remade are the movies that WEREN'T hits. the films that either flopped because of poor story or the effects weren't there for the time. Films that could be changed a bit and 'fixed'. They could have done The Black Cauldron, or Atlantis, or Treasure Planet. They really missed out on The Black Cauldron during their early 2000s LotR era. Even Hunchback would have been cool, especially with the buzz around the theatrical production. I have had no interest to see a frame by frame remake of the movies I personally grew up with and loved like Aladdin, Little Mermaid and Beauty and the beast. but the ones that didn't get the love and popularity would have been interesting to see what they could do with a live action interpretation.
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Agreed. The point of a remake for some is to do it one better, improve on and maybe even take a good concept from a falls flat situation to a well crafted situation.

Now it is franchising and relying on old reliables.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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Ghost93 said:
I really think Snow White will be the first real test of Zegler's stardom.

She was an unknown when the West Side Story remake came out. The movie was critically acclaimed, but I think it flopped because older audiences still love the 1961 version and didn't see a need for a remake and younger audiences simply don't care about West Side Story. Seeing West Side Story is what initially made me optimistic about Zegelr as Snow White, as her portrayal of Maria embodied the sweetness and innocence that the original version of Snow White had. She can also sing well.


She didn't have a huge role in Shazam Fury of the Gods, which flopped due to middling reviews, superhero fatigue, distrust in the DC brand, and everyone dogpiling on Zachary Levi. I don't think any sane person would say Shazam 2 flopped due to Zegler. In fact, by the time the movie came out, I doubt most people even knew who she was at the time.
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Stardom seems a bit generous, prior to this thread I’d never heard of her, she’s been a supporting role actor, or at best a secondary lead.

My guess is Hunger games flops, not because of her but because it’s a decade old series that most people have lost interest in. I also suspect that Snow White will flop, again not due to her (although her comments won’t have helped) but because Disney appears to be giving us a very different version that’s best qualities (so far) have been providing cringe worthy photos for good memes.

I’ve never actually seen one of her movies so I can’t argue for or against her star potential but she needs to find roles in movies that won’t flop if she really wants to become a star.
 
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I just wish they had stayed to the Source material. If it wasnt broke dont fix it. They could have tweaked the story to some degree, but from the things I have seen they took Flamethrower to it. The First BIG Disney success, the thing that enabled all of The Walt Disney Company should be treated better and with respect for what it did and does.
 
TP2000

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Ghost93 said:
She was an unknown when the West Side Story remake came out. The movie was critically acclaimed, but I think it flopped because older audiences still love the 1961 version and didn't see a need for a remake and younger audiences simply don't care about West Side Story.
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That description of why the remake of West Side Story flopped seems rather close to the description of the remake of Snow White.

Except as I understand it, West Side Story's remake stayed fairly close to the original. The whole movie still revolved around the original romance and Maria was still madly in love with Tony. Maria wasn't now on a Leadership Journey to take over the dress shop and turn it into an employee-owned cooperative (wait, I'm confused with the log ride remake).

It will be interesting to see what the free market says with their wallets about a Snow White remake that isn't really the story of Snow White & The Seven Dwarves any more.
 
Disstevefan1

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TP2000 said:
That description of why the remake of West Side Story flopped seems rather close to the description of the remake of Snow White.

Except as I understand it, West Side Story's remake stayed fairly close to the original. The whole movie still revolved around the original romance and Maria was still madly in love with Tony. Maria wasn't now on a Leadership Journey to take over the dress shop and turn it into an employee-owned cooperative (wait, I'm confused with the log ride remake).

It will be interesting to see what the free market says with their wallets about a Snow White remake that isn't really the story of Snow White & The Seven Dwarves any more.
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I gotta watch WSS to see how they destroyed remade it. ;)
 
TP2000

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erasure fan1 said:
The issue that she could face, is it doesn't matter if it was her fault. Lets say hunger games doesn't do well. And then what if snow white is a failure as well. Now you're the actress with 4 big budget flops in a row. Not a good look for any actor or actress.
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Well, at least Rachel Zegler will have her signature brand of personal charm to fall back on. ;)

erasure fan1 said:
Hollywood can be a fickle place. Heck, even if one is a hit, that's still 3 of 4 majors underperforming. That's still not great.
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As Rachel Zegler said herself at D23 Expo about potentially cutting out the character played by Andrew Burnap... "All of Andrew's scenes could get cut, it's Hollywood, baby. Ha ha."

Rachel Zegler's career may get cut. It's Hollywood, baby. Ha ha?
 
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TP2000 said:
Well, at least Rachel Zegler will have her signature brand of personal charm to fall back on. ;)



As Rachel Zegler said herself at D23 Expo about potentially cutting out the character played by Andrew Burnap... "All of Andrew's scenes could get cut, it's Hollywood, baby. Ha ha."

Rachel Zegler's career may get cut. It's Hollywood, baby. Ha ha?
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Too true, it is a What Have You Done Lately business here popularity has weight.
 
oogie boogie man

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A lot of people born during this century have no respect for the past, like Zegler. And even though they've never done anything good they believe whatever it is is the best everrrrrrrrr.
 
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