darthjohnny
Active Member
That's what I am saying. It was originally planned for WDW's Small World. Ergo, the Disney characters would have always been in this version if they had gone with the orignal concept.
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Lilo and Stitch coming to Disneylands small world. Are we next?
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That's what I am saying. It was originally planned for WDW's Small World. Ergo, the Disney characters would have always been in this version if they had gone with the orignal concept.
comics101
Well-Known Member
I don't get what the big deal is. I guarentee this will enhance the magic, not take away from it. Come on people they did it to Pirates and it turned out great. ISAW could use something to boost the wait times.
On a side not, Jim Hill reported on this a while ago, but he said it would be going to HKDL.
On a side not, Jim Hill reported on this a while ago, but he said it would be going to HKDL.
WDWFigment
Well-Known Member
In reading the last few rumored change threads, there seems to be the same argument presented by the same self-righteous few who think "too many people on wdwmagic complain about changes". Here are a few general words regarding that:
1) How is you constantly complaining about their complaining any better than their complaining? (Your argument goes: "if you don't like WDW, why keep going?" My argument: "if you don't like the criticism at WDWMagic.com, why keep coming here? I'm not saying you don't have a reason, but it's argument by analogy--if you have a valid answer to your question, surely they have one to theirs).
2) No one is going to possibly be able to find a change that has been universally praised here. With thousands of members, that just isn't possible. Finding ones with a positive consensus is totally different. You are always going to have select people complain about attractions changing. It's pretty easy to differentiate the majority (here, not in 'real life') from the vocal minority. (Example: several of you say "we" don't like the PotC changes yet the general public does...there was a poll here last summer that had over 90% of respondents preferring the current version).
3) Don't be critical of someone asserting something then failing to back it up if you do the same thing. That's hypocritical.
4) Somewhat of a correlary to that--if someone fails to qualify something with "in my opinion" or "I think", don't jump down their throat for presenting their opinion as objective fact. This is an internet forum, not a doctoral thesis. We don't use citations or footnotes here. Moreover, persuasive writing style encourages dropping these weak qualifiers.
By the way, this is all my opinion, it isn't necessarily fact.
1) How is you constantly complaining about their complaining any better than their complaining? (Your argument goes: "if you don't like WDW, why keep going?" My argument: "if you don't like the criticism at WDWMagic.com, why keep coming here? I'm not saying you don't have a reason, but it's argument by analogy--if you have a valid answer to your question, surely they have one to theirs).
2) No one is going to possibly be able to find a change that has been universally praised here. With thousands of members, that just isn't possible. Finding ones with a positive consensus is totally different. You are always going to have select people complain about attractions changing. It's pretty easy to differentiate the majority (here, not in 'real life') from the vocal minority. (Example: several of you say "we" don't like the PotC changes yet the general public does...there was a poll here last summer that had over 90% of respondents preferring the current version).
3) Don't be critical of someone asserting something then failing to back it up if you do the same thing. That's hypocritical.
4) Somewhat of a correlary to that--if someone fails to qualify something with "in my opinion" or "I think", don't jump down their throat for presenting their opinion as objective fact. This is an internet forum, not a doctoral thesis. We don't use citations or footnotes here. Moreover, persuasive writing style encourages dropping these weak qualifiers.
By the way, this is all my opinion, it isn't necessarily fact.
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
I don't know what to think, my main complaint is that Mary Blair and crew designed a very specific set of characters and a visual design to this ride and it should be upheld as much as possible.
On the other hand adding characters could make the ride more relevant.
Or sell more merchandise.
I think the problem is that Lilo & Stitch just isn't that timeless, as say, oh, Aladdin or Snow White...
On the other hand adding characters could make the ride more relevant.
Or sell more merchandise.
I think the problem is that Lilo & Stitch just isn't that timeless, as say, oh, Aladdin or Snow White...
fizzle75
New Member
This just isn't that big of a deal to me. The whole reason I'm a WDW fan is because FIRST I was a DISNEY fan. I have been a fan of Disney's characters all of my life and even if there wasn't a Walt Disney World or Disneyland I would STILL be a huge DISNEY fan.
I'll never understand why folks get so bent out of shape at the thought of DISNEY characters being integrated into a WALT DISNEY WORLD ride. I've heard many members here say that they aren't big fans of Disney's animated films and that they hate dealing with characters in the parks...I just don't get it. The characters are the heart and soul of WDW for me and I personally would love to see more character integration.
I personally LOVE Lilo and Stitch and I think it is a wonderful story told through brilliant character design and some of the most breathtaking animation ever to grace the silver screen. I also love IASW, it's a brilliantly developed attraction that has stood the test of time and blessed us with one of the catchiest songs ever penned. I think combining the two would be a nice plussing for this attraction and would in no way take away from the nostalgia of the existing ride. Both Lilo & Stitch and IASW promote the importance of "family"(whether it be global or universal)and I think they would be a perfect fit for each other...they'll just have to change the theme song to "It's A Small Universe After All".:lol:
I'll never understand why folks get so bent out of shape at the thought of DISNEY characters being integrated into a WALT DISNEY WORLD ride. I've heard many members here say that they aren't big fans of Disney's animated films and that they hate dealing with characters in the parks...I just don't get it. The characters are the heart and soul of WDW for me and I personally would love to see more character integration.
I personally LOVE Lilo and Stitch and I think it is a wonderful story told through brilliant character design and some of the most breathtaking animation ever to grace the silver screen. I also love IASW, it's a brilliantly developed attraction that has stood the test of time and blessed us with one of the catchiest songs ever penned. I think combining the two would be a nice plussing for this attraction and would in no way take away from the nostalgia of the existing ride. Both Lilo & Stitch and IASW promote the importance of "family"(whether it be global or universal)and I think they would be a perfect fit for each other...they'll just have to change the theme song to "It's A Small Universe After All".:lol:
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chris chris
Active Member
i actuelly think that its a faboulous idea. if i recall there are NO disney theamed aspecs of iasw. hiddin mickeys don' t count. if you dont like it go to dhs there are undisney theamed attractons there.
chris chris
Active Member
or would you like it to have two verisons of this attraction. disney theamed/ not disney theamed.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
Am I the ONLY one who can't get Miceage to open today?
their server crashed this afternoon
"i actuelly think that its a faboulous idea. if i recall there are NO disney theamed aspecs of iasw. hiddin mickeys don' t count. if you dont like it go to dhs there are undisney theamed attractons there. "
Hmmm....strange....it's a small world was in part created and designed by WALT DISNEY.
And then put at DISNEYland.....yeah I think there's quite a DISNEY influence in it's a small world.
You've become what current commercialized Disney wants from you.....to make you think Disney is strictly mickey mouse, cinderella,fantasyland, etc.
A ride at any Disney theme park does not need stitch to make it a Disney ride...it takes talent, design, a unique and creative story that can immerse you into a beginning middle and an end.
Disney was and sadly in a small part is still about unique and creative shows, techniques, and designs.....but mass commercialism is causing many to expect characters wherever they go or think thats what Disney is.
Remember "oh but Disney is just for kids"
Thanks to current management, the company is entering the children, teenage fad zone faster than ever before.
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Hmmm....strange....it's a small world was in part created and designed by WALT DISNEY.
And then put at DISNEYland.....yeah I think there's quite a DISNEY influence in it's a small world.
You've become what current commercialized Disney wants from you.....to make you think Disney is strictly mickey mouse, cinderella,fantasyland, etc.
A ride at any Disney theme park does not need stitch to make it a Disney ride...it takes talent, design, a unique and creative story that can immerse you into a beginning middle and an end.
Disney was and sadly in a small part is still about unique and creative shows, techniques, and designs.....but mass commercialism is causing many to expect characters wherever they go or think thats what Disney is.
Remember "oh but Disney is just for kids"
Thanks to current management, the company is entering the children, teenage fad zone faster than ever before.
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WDWFigment
Well-Known Member
Just for the benefit of several posters here: the browser Firefox has a built-in spell checker. :wave:
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Princessatheart
Member
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While we are adding Lilo and Stitch, why don't we throw in Hannah Montana and the High School Musical kids?
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While we are adding Lilo and Stitch, why don't we throw in Hannah Montana and the High School Musical kids?
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the new united states section would be a perfect place for hana montana and zac efron AA to be singing with the small world AA's
I can see the press release now....
"in plussing various attractions over the years, we decided that miley cyrus and zac efron are excellent examples of how young adults of today can work with children around the world to make Earth a better place. That, along with the addition of Mulan, Aladdin, and Simba show how disney characters co-exist with children all over the world."
"Next year, when we celebrate Makin' Magical Memories, celebrating people taking photos of themselves and going out to dinner with their relatives while on Disney property, we will also show to guests our newest additions to disneyland's tomorrowland... stitch's farting chili dog peoplemover and belle's enchanted autopia. We feel Disneyland has become a great place to show guests that our loveable characters can be seen in every land far and wide"
I can see the press release now....
"in plussing various attractions over the years, we decided that miley cyrus and zac efron are excellent examples of how young adults of today can work with children around the world to make Earth a better place. That, along with the addition of Mulan, Aladdin, and Simba show how disney characters co-exist with children all over the world."
"Next year, when we celebrate Makin' Magical Memories, celebrating people taking photos of themselves and going out to dinner with their relatives while on Disney property, we will also show to guests our newest additions to disneyland's tomorrowland... stitch's farting chili dog peoplemover and belle's enchanted autopia. We feel Disneyland has become a great place to show guests that our loveable characters can be seen in every land far and wide"
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Well said! Very well said.:sohappy::sohappy::sohappy:
DisneyExplorer
Member
To tell you the truth, It's a Small World has plenty of publicity and lovability without characters, so why fix something that isn't broken (like Alien Encounter)? I'm kind of one the fence for this one. It's nice to have an attraction not revolving around the characters, but if done correctly, I don't think the characters will destroy any of the magic emitted from the attraction. I'm guessing the characters won't play huge prominent roles, meaning they won't be bigger than the regular dolls so they stand out more. I think Disney is doing it as more of a hidden mickey thing. It could be fun for guests to pick out some of the Disney characters amidst all of the dancing/singing dolls.
I never said there were no tie-ins before I said that they were were done tastefully and not SHOVED down our throats like they are now adays. Back than there was an even assortment of film tie-ins and original attractions. In fact, one could say majority of the attractions were original conecpts and only a few (mostly fantasyland) were cartoon tie-ins.
Now adays the parks are packed to the brim with cartoon tie-ins and there are very few ORIGINAL concept rides left especially in Magic Kingdom. It seems like Disney's sleezy marketing department cant rest until every attraction has some connection to a recent cartoon in order to push more merchandise. Its sleezy, its tacky, and that kind of thing has no place in a "Premium quality theme park". Its as bad as those cheap direct to video movies disney used to bang out to make a quick buck and cheapen the Disney name in the process. Thank God John Lasseter has put an end to that.
Don't blame him. Blame The Walt Disney Company that has been under the control of idiots like Michael Eisner, Paul Pressler, and Jay Rasolu over the past decade.
First off, I do not care one way or the other about It's a Small World to get bent out of shape about this addition. I do not think it will increase attendance or make the ride more popular, so I don't really see the point.
That being said if this were to happen I would not be a fan simply because it is a growing trend with Disney to put characters in the park as much as possible in unimaginative ways. I understand from a business stand point that the characters bring in money and drive souvenir sales. Characters are what the guests tell guest relations they want; however at a certain point Disney is going to reach a saturation point where there will be too many characters.
Before you walk onto Main Street there's a plaque, I'm sure you all have seen that says "Here you leave today and enter the world of yesterday, tomorrow and fantasy." If the character invasion continues, you won't be in Tomorrowland or Adventureland anymore.
Disney parks are where people go to escape reality and become part of worlds they have never been. More and more the additions to the Disney parks have been focusing on short sited money making by putting in character overlays and copies of attractions at other Disney parks. The problem is the story and creativity have been sacrificed to make a quick profit. This problem is not apparent just with the character overlays but in people's complaints of a lack of unique souvenirs and additions such as American Idol.
What Disney needs to realize, is what made Disney parks popular and successful was creativity and providing unique experiences.
That being said if this were to happen I would not be a fan simply because it is a growing trend with Disney to put characters in the park as much as possible in unimaginative ways. I understand from a business stand point that the characters bring in money and drive souvenir sales. Characters are what the guests tell guest relations they want; however at a certain point Disney is going to reach a saturation point where there will be too many characters.
Before you walk onto Main Street there's a plaque, I'm sure you all have seen that says "Here you leave today and enter the world of yesterday, tomorrow and fantasy." If the character invasion continues, you won't be in Tomorrowland or Adventureland anymore.
Disney parks are where people go to escape reality and become part of worlds they have never been. More and more the additions to the Disney parks have been focusing on short sited money making by putting in character overlays and copies of attractions at other Disney parks. The problem is the story and creativity have been sacrificed to make a quick profit. This problem is not apparent just with the character overlays but in people's complaints of a lack of unique souvenirs and additions such as American Idol.
What Disney needs to realize, is what made Disney parks popular and successful was creativity and providing unique experiences.