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'Lightyear' Coming Summer 2022

Disney Irish

Premium Member
That's a load of crap. If anything, the MPAA has simply gotten stricter. If Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, Pocahontas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules and Mulan came out today and were made in the exact same way, there is no way they would be G rated as they were in the 90s. The Disney Renaissance movies were much more intense than more modern PG-rated Disney movies like Frozen, Tangled, Encanto, Wreck it Ralph and Moana. Studios opt not to pursue a G rating because G nowadays is seen as meaning "for preschoolers" where in the 90s and earlier it didn't have as much of a stigma.
Exactly, as if somehow Disney/Pixar set the ratings themselves. Its an independent organization that sets the ratings not the studios. Studios have been fighting with the MPAA for a long time on getting content approved for the widest audience.
 

Dear Prudence

Well-Known Member
It's Pixar, so yes. It was rated PG. All of Disney and Pixar's animated motion pictures in recent years have been rated PG, whereas up until 10 years ago that fare was generally rated G.

But now Hollywood doesn't know how to tell any story without at least some violence or adult themes, so PG is the new G. Pixar is the perfect example of that change.

Lightyear was aimed at American families with children, but that demographic purposely stayed away from Lightyear. The miserable box office results for Lightyear and the hundreds of millions of dollars it lost for Burbank are the fallout from that.
That is all very, very sad to me. :(
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
That is all very, very sad to me. :(

I found it alarming and sad too. I hadn't even realized it until I was doing a little research over on the Film side of the forum where we were discussing Lightyear's bombing at the box office this summer.

Pixar and Walt Disney Animation apparently no longer make G Rated movies. It all has to have enough violence and adult stuff to get it to just slip under the wire as a PG movie now.

It's not a good sign, to be honest. :(
 

WorldExplorer

Well-Known Member
Imagine if that Mickey Mouse Three Musketeers movie they made like fifteen years ago was a serious attempt to adapt the book, with a drab color scheme, and the only recognizable character being Mickey. Except they made Mickey act more like that book's actual protagonist, had him voiced by Generic Action Star #5, and redesigned him to be less cute.

Then they put it in theaters and it bombed.

Then everyone stood around and wondered why it didn't do well.

This whole Lightyear thing sounds just as bizarre to me as that ridiculous hypothetical scenario.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
The topic of DVD/BluRay sales came up in this thread back in July, and then it just came up again over in the Strange World thread this afternoon.

Looking at Strange World's bombing numbers, I stumbled across an obscure tab on a movie industry sales site that actually tracks DVD/BluRay sales in the USA. The statistics are delayed by about six weeks because of the time delay in tracking individual sales from thousands of retail channels/stores across the country.

But the reality is as I and many others here suspected. DVD/BluRay sales are tiny for even popular movies. For a box office flop like Lightyear, they are perhaps enough to covering the catering costs for the studio snack table for the union laborers. $2 Million in DVD sales for Lightyear, and $7 Million for Minions Rise of Gru.

A tiny profit center really not worth mentioning any longer in the 2020's, as I think most of us thought. 🤨

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Phroobar

Well-Known Member
The topic of DVD/BluRay sales came up in this thread back in July, and then it just came up again over in the Strange World thread this afternoon.

Looking at Strange World's bombing numbers, I stumbled across an obscure tab on a movie industry sales site that actually tracks DVD/BluRay sales in the USA. The statistics are delayed by about six weeks because of the time delay in tracking individual sales from thousands of retail channels/stores across the country.

But the reality is as I and many others here suspected. DVD/BluRay sales are tiny for even popular movies. For a box office flop like Lightyear, they are perhaps enough to covering the catering costs for the studio snack table for the union laborers. $2 Million in DVD sales for Lightyear, and $7 Million for Minions Rise of Gru.

A tiny profit center really not worth mentioning any longer in the 2020's, as I think most of us thought. 🤨

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Why buy a Disney DVD when you can stream it? I'm surprised people are still buying Beetlejuice DVDs.
 

GimpYancIent

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Why buy a Disney DVD when you can stream it? I'm surprised people are still buying Beetlejuice DVDs.
There are a few things like nostalgia, having an actual tangible item in your hands, collecting, it's good to go old school. Some people (hold on to your shorts) still collect VHS!
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
There are a few things like nostalgia, having an actual tangible item in your hands, collecting, it's good to go old school. Some people (hold on to your shorts) still collect VHS!
That is why I collect DVDs, rip them and put them on my NAS to watch anytime. A person can buy a DVD at a thrift store for a buck or two. I think it is funny that is Beetlejuice people were buying. I guess because of the Halloween season.
 

Screamface

Well-Known Member
Why buy a Disney DVD when you can stream it? I'm surprised people are still buying Beetlejuice DVDs.
It's ending early Oct and from a few other things on it. The shops must be pushing stuff in the lead up to Halloween.

That list is frankly strange. Who would buy Picard s2? It would have to be people who don't stream. Or Trek Fans who just collect even if it's awful.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
There are a few things like nostalgia, having an actual tangible item in your hands, collecting, it's good to go old school. Some people (hold on to your shorts) still collect VHS!

During my recent move, the nice folks at Bekins packaged up all my old LP records in purpose-built boxes made exactly to carefully hold 75 LP's per box. I thought I was the only one left with LP's, but the Bekins lady said they are now using those LP boxes a lot more during moves than they were a decade ago.

And when you go to Target, they suddenly have more LP's for sale than they do DVD's.

It's a crazy world! 🤣
 

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