'Lightyear' Coming Summer 2022

[BuddyThomas]

I think I plan to update the financial statistics on Lightyear in this thread until it finally moves to Disney+, perhaps by the first of the month. At that point we will know exactly how much Lightyear lost for Burbank.

Using it's incredibly (and suspiciously so) bloated budget of $200 Million and the "Triple The Box Office" costs that Mr. Penguin says a modern movie must make to break even, it appears Lightyear will have cost Burbank at least a few hundred million dollars.

But we won't know the specifics until Lightyear gets pulled permanently from theaters. As of this past weekend, it was still playing in 1,350 theaters. Which is roughly ten times as many theaters as Marcel was playing in.

Why are you so happy about this?????

 

[MisterPenguin]

Using it's incredibly (and suspiciously so) bloated budget of $200 Million

Other Pixar films with a $200 M budget:

• Luca
• Incredibles 2
• Coco
• Finding Dory
• Monsters University
• Toy Story 3

Yes, bloated. But why would you say "suspiciously so"? What are you trying to intimate?

 

[TP2000]

Yes, bloated. But why would you say "suspiciously so"? What are you trying to intimate?

I have no working experience about "Hollywood!" budgets or various industry traditions. Thus, I have no idea why Lightyear took $200 Million to produce, but Minions Rise of Gru took only $80 Million to produce. And, as a reminder:

Lightyear Global Box Office = $213 Million after 31 Days
Minions Gru Global Box Office = $505 Million after 17 Days

But, since I do have some working experience in American private industry, I can guess that on that fancy Emeryville campus there are a heckuva lot of lavishly catered meals, plus lots of people with "Vice President" in their title at their reserved Tesla charging space, and other silly yet expensive frivolous costs that all added up to $200 Million for their latest movie called Lightyear.

I just find the bloated $200 Million dollar budgets for these underperforming movies suspicious. You don't? And if not, why not? You don't think someone should be going through Pixar's budgets with a fine tooth comb at this point? Cause I certainly do. As do most shareholders who are paying attention, I would imagine.

 

[TP2000]

Why are you so happy about this?????

Why aren't you upset this latest Pixar movie, with a $200 Million budget, flopped like it did?

 

[MisterPenguin]

I have no working experience about "Hollywood!" budgets or various industry traditions. Thus, I have no idea why Lightyear took $200 Million to produce, but Minions Rise of Gru took only $80 Million to produce. And, as a reminder:

Lightyear Global Box Office = $213 Million after 31 Days
Minions Gru Global Box Office = $505 Million after 17 Days

But, since I do have some working experience in American private industry, I can guess that on that fancy Emeryville campus there are a heckuva lot of lavishly catered meals, plus lots of people with "Vice President" in their title at their reserved Tesla charging space, and other silly yet expensive frivolous costs that all added up to $200 Million for their latest movie called Lightyear.

I just find the bloated $200 Million dollar budgets for these underperforming movies suspicious. You don't? And if not, why not? You don't think someone should be going through Pixar's budgets with a fine tooth comb at this point? Cause I certainly do. As do most shareholders who are paying attention, I would imagine.

1. You don't know how it works, but your happy to label it suspicious anyway.

2. You ask me if I find these budgets bloated, but you quote my post in which I say they are bloated.

I mean... at this point... are you feeling OK? Your posting is just totally unhinged from reality. You have a lot to say about an industry you clearly know nothing about nor are inclined to do the bare minimum of research so that you don't keep saying demonstrably false things that make your posts look amateurish and foolish.

You keep asking questions, but you keep including premises that are accusatory and false, which belies the sincerity of the question.

Are you OK?

 

[Sharon&Susan]

I had no idea what everyone was talking about regarding Marcel, so I Googled. Apparently it's one of those art house movies?

The Oscars has seen its TV viewership, and thus its relevance in American culture, go off a ratings cliff the past decade. There's several reasons for that, but a big reason is they keep awarding stuff to movies hardly anyone has seen or heard about. Marcel seems to be the exact wrong direction to keep the Oscars going in, unless the Academy really does want to become entirely irrelevant to American culture and society.

Here's the latest box office numbers as of this evening for Marcel and others through this past weekend. Marcel is playing in 153 theaters nationwide, and has generated less than $2 Million in ticket sales.

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If what the Hollywood Reporter's small sample of Academy voters in past years represents the larger picture, I doubt that a movie made outside the major Hollywood studios will win Best Animated Feature for better or for worse.

Proof That Oscar Voters Are Clueless About Animation

What if the animation Oscars were chosen by people who knew nothing about animation?

www.cartoonbrew.com

Definitive Proof That Academy Voters Are Ignorant About Animation

Those of us in animation always gripe that the rest of Hollywood doesn't care or know the first thing about animated films. There are tons of anecdotal stories to support this position, but finally, we've got some definitive proof. And if you think Hollywood doesn't understand animation, it's...

www.cartoonbrew.com

Academy Voters Don't Watch The Animated Features They Vote On — And The Academy Is Fine With That

The Academy demands that voters view films in almost every category except for animated feature. That needs to change.

www.cartoonbrew.com

 

[TP2000]

1. You don't know how it works, but your happy to label it suspicious anyway.

I have a hunch even some Hollywood insiders don't know how their industry works now in 2022. Especially if they have to make triple the production budget in order to earn a profit. But if I saw them in the lobby bar, I'd buy them a drink out of pity.

2. You ask me if I find these budgets bloated, but you quote my post in which I say they are bloated.

Great. They are bloated. Pixar is bloated. Walt Disney Animation is bloated. Even Marvel is now a bit bloated.

Which is funny that we're talking about bloated, because I was just going to mention that Mr. Hemsworth was now looking a tad middle-aged, even with all the tips n' tricks the SpFX Department can throw his way. Or his butt's way.

You keep asking questions, but you keep including premises that are accusatory and false, which belies the sincerity of the question.

Are you OK?

Oh, I'm fine. I mean, my tennis game has seen better days, but at this point it's all downhill from here. I've got a new house waiting for me in a new state in a few months, and so I'm knee deep in "statement marble" for the powder room and a new Samsung refrigerator that requires me to choose three or four different colors for each panel, which sends you into a spiral of questioning about your choices. But other than that? I'm great!

A real shame about that Lightyear box office though, isn't it?

 

[TP2000]

If what the Hollywood Reporter's small sample of Academy voters in past years represents the larger picture, I doubt that a movie made outside the major Hollywood studios will win Best Animated Feature for better or for worse.

Proof That Oscar Voters Are Clueless About Animation

What if the animation Oscars were chosen by people who knew nothing about animation?

www.cartoonbrew.com

Definitive Proof That Academy Voters Are Ignorant About Animation

Those of us in animation always gripe that the rest of Hollywood doesn't care or know the first thing about animated films. There are tons of anecdotal stories to support this position, but finally, we've got some definitive proof. And if you think Hollywood doesn't understand animation, it's...

www.cartoonbrew.com

Academy Voters Don't Watch The Animated Features They Vote On — And The Academy Is Fine With That

The Academy demands that voters view films in almost every category except for animated feature. That needs to change.

www.cartoonbrew.com

Oh, that's fascinating!

So, at least, the Animated Motion Picture category remains in the realm of movies the average American may have heard of, much less at least know someone who bought a ticket to see it? That's good news.

It will also help Burbank. Since they have three movies they can use for an Oscar nom this year; Turning Red, Lightyear and Strange World, they have a shot at getting not just a nomination, but a win. At least mathematically.

 

[DCBaker]

Lightyear will debut on Disney+ August 3rd -

 

[MisterPenguin]

Lightyear will debut on Disney+ August 3rd -

47 days... the new normal.

 

[DKampy]

The Oscars has seen its TV viewership, and thus its relevance in American culture, go off a ratings cliff the past decade. There's several reasons for that, but a big reason is they keep awarding stuff to movies hardly anyone has seen or heard about. Marcel seems to be the exact wrong direction to keep the Oscars going in, unless the Academy really does want to become entirely irrelevant to American culture and society.

well I hope the Oscar voters are voting for the best movie regardless of how big or small of movie is. I have not seen Marcel so I can’t comment on that. But I was happy with CODA winning last year…It would have been my vote and I see a ton of movies from independent To blockbusters

 

[Prince-1]

FYI….Lightyear is coming to D+ on August 3rd.

Pixar's Lightyear Gets Disney+ Release Date

Following a successful run in movie theaters, Disney and Pixar's Lightyear is set to release on Disney+ next month in August.

www.comingsoon.net

 

[TwilightZone]

Is this typical for movie to home release?
Also I have not seen any commercials for lightyear lately, wonder if they're waiting for the digital release for that.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

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Is this typical for movie to home release?
Also I have not seen any commercials for lightyear lately, wonder if they're waiting for the digital release for that.

Dr Strange was released to theaters May 4th and on Disney+ June 22. Roughly the same amount of time, despite bigger box office.

45 days is the norm now with studios eager to pad their streaming services with new content ASAP.

 

[MisterPenguin]

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Is this typical for movie to home release?
Also I have not seen any commercials for lightyear lately, wonder if they're waiting for the digital release for that.

Umm....

47 days... the new normal.

The COVID times saw movies skipping or spending very little time in theaters. Theater operators wanted them to keep the usual 90 days for tentpole films. Most studios balked at that. Eventually, the all reluctantly agreed on 45 days as the new norm. Shorter for smaller films.

Also the rise of streaming and the pandemic seems to be killing the DVD/BluRay window. Why would people rush out to buy a DVD when it's going to be on their streaming service in 4K soon enough? And so, more and more so, films are going directly from theaters to the company's affiliated streamer.

(I should add: you can still buy DVDs/BluRays. And you can still rent or digitally buy the films on streamers like Vudu while it's 'free' to one one of the subscription services.)

 

[Sharon&Susan]

(I should add: you can still be DVDs/BluRays

I assume you mean buy DVDs/BluRays or am I not quite grasping what you mean by this?

 

[MisterPenguin]

I assume you mean buy DVDs/BluRays or am I not quite grasping what you mean by this?

Hey, if you chose to be a DVD or BluRay, you be free to your true self!!

<quickly editing original post...>

 

[TP2000]

Lightyear has dropped down to 830 theaters this weekend, it's second to last before it goes to Disney+ in August. Or is this maybe it's final weekend in theaters and by next Friday it's gone entirely?

It's only making $242 per theater, so it's US box office is pretty much stalled out at $116 Million. Lightyear has made $96 Million overseas, for a global total of $213 Million. Off of a production budget of $200 Million.

The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Tuesday October 22, 2024

Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Tuesday October 22, 2024

www.the-numbers.com

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Lightyear has dropped down to 830 theaters this weekend, it's second to last before it goes to Disney+ in August. Or is this maybe it's final weekend in theaters and by next Friday it's gone entirely?

I wouldn't count on this. There will be a few dozen theaters that will be willing to play Lightyear for another month or two as long as it makes some money (even if it's not that much).

 

[Jedijax719]

This will end up with a multiplier less than 2.5. That may be the lowest for an animated movie-maybe ever!