'Lightyear' Coming Summer 2022

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Screamface said:
When Budgeting a film for PIXAR. Would PIXAR have a set cost to produce animated footage? Say $1 million per minute of animation. Where it doesn't actually cost PIXAR that, it's just their fee.

So those financing the film, have PIXAR's fee listed on the budget. Not an actually broken down budget of what is going on at PIXAR.

That fee of course wouldn't cover sound, voice actors, music and so forth.
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Outside of their prior partnership with Disney, I don’t think any Pixar films have been co-financed.

In a lot of creative project-based businesses and even others like law firms, employees have a billable rate that includes not just their salary but also overhead costs associated with that employee.

Given how much research and development that has historically been done by Pixar, I doubt they could have a firm cost per minute. Different types of scenes and characters are going to cost more to animate. Doing something new with the animation is going to cost more. Script rewrites are going to be part of the process but wouldn’t necessarily play into a cost per minute.
 
Sharon&Susan

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TP2000 said:
I too have been saddened that BluRay releases are now few and far between. I was buying a lot of them a decade ago of favorite classic movies from the mid 20th century, but now they're hard to find. I'm thrilled to have All About Eve, Valley of the Dolls, Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, etc., etc. all on BluRay.

But I wish the studios would keep it up, even in limited numbers for us collectors. Well, I'm not a "collector", I'm just an oddball with questionable taste in movies. Even the more expensive BluRay format doesn't seem to pencil out for the studios now. But just try finding Airport '75 streaming anywhere! I can't! :mad:
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If you're really desperate for older movies TP, Warner Archive and the boutique label Kino Lorber are still pretty good at releasing new classic movies on Blu-ray regularly (though they're both mostly online only).
 
TP2000

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Sharon&Susan said:
If you're really desperate for older movies TP, Warner Archive and the boutique label Kino Lorber are still pretty good at releasing new classic movies on Blu-ray regularly (though they're both mostly online only).
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I'm familar with some of the stuff from Warner's, but now I'm off to go search for Kino Lorber. I've never heard of that one. Thanks for the tip!

EDIT: A few titles I'd hoped for weren't there, but Kino Lorber has a BluRay of 1964's "For Those Who Think Young". I like to have 1960's beach movies playing in the background at my summer dinner/cocktail parties, and that one is very rare. With Paul Lynde in all his thinly veiled glory, plus a 30 year old James Darren pretending to be a 20 year old Twisting with 18 year old girls on the beach. And now on BluRay?!? I owe you one ladies! Thank you @Sharon&Susan 😘
 
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Screamface

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lazyboy97o said:
Outside of their prior partnership with Disney, I don’t think any Pixar films have been co-financed.

In a lot of creative project-based businesses and even others like law firms, employees have a billable rate that includes not just their salary but also overhead costs associated with that employee.

Given how much research and development that has historically been done by Pixar, I doubt they could have a firm cost per minute. Different types of scenes and characters are going to cost more to animate. Doing something new with the animation is going to cost more. Script rewrites are going to be part of the process but wouldn’t necessarily play into a cost per minute.
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But the whole game of creating multiple companies would still be going on for producing a film. Even if everything is owned and financed by Disney.

I'm just wondering about the tricky corporate structures and financing.

Disney creates a company to produce the film. Disney invests $200 million in that company to make the film.

The company pays PIXAR $200 million to animate the film. PIXAR makes a profit of say $80 Million off their fee.

One company of Disney is profiting. Another is writing off a loss for spending too much money and not getting a return.

Just moving money around. Isn't there some game of this that goes on when financing movies?
 
Brian

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In Attempt To Bring Back Audiences, Disney Recuts 'Lightyear' To Add Some Minions

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TwilightZone

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TrainsOfDisney said:
A friend is on vacation with his family, he said they went to see Minions the other day and are now going to see Elvis.

I asked him why they didn’t see Lightyear and he said it’s not showing at this theatre.

Ouch!
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Just as I suspected to happen oh so many pages ago
TwilightZone said:
But also even though this is just 1 tweet, I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up becoming a trend across movie theaters in the future
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Now it's been three weeks and I can't blame theaters for replacing a movie that isn't doing well with movies that are getting ticket sales and audience interest.
 
TP2000

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TrainsOfDisney said:
A friend is on vacation with his family, he said they went to see Minions the other day and are now going to see Elvis.

I asked him why they didn’t see Lightyear and he said it’s not showing at this theatre.

Ouch!
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Lightyear was still in 3,800 theaters over this past holiday weekend. But since it was only averaging $350 in sales per theater, it's likely being pulled quickly since Gru is a massive hit, and Top Gun and Elvis are still going strong. It should be interesting to see how many theaters Lightyear ends up in this weekend, likely its final weekend.

A quick check at the Cinepolis Del Mar ticketing website shows Lightyear remains in one (1) theater there, with 3 showings per day this weekend. I just checked the 7pm Friday night showing for Lightyear, and it has sold four tickets (4) in that entire theater. Thor and Gru are in multiple theaters there with two dozen showings per day, and Top Gun is also still in multiple theaters with eight showings per day this weekend. Thor is already sold out for many showings this weekend. 🤔
 
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TwilightZone

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You know, maybe it's just me, but I think one reason Lightyear failed was that it couldn't hide itself.
What I mean by this is that it feels like a movie that is meant purely to sell merch. It is obvious from the commercials, it is obvious from the characters, it's obvious from the basic premise alone. It's the movie that inspired a kid to get a toy in universe, it almost slaps your face with it.
Most animated flicks are meant to sell of course, but they do a good job at not feeling like you are being pitched a product to. I watch the original Toy Story and I don't feel like I am watching a commercial for Buzz and Woody. Lightyear is a commercial for Lightyear and Sox. There's no way around it.
 
TwilightZone

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Well I am not sure where else in the forums this will fit yet, but remember Lasseter's new company Skydance? They are making a movie for Apple+.


If there is anywhere in this forum where this fits please direct me there, but I found this interesting to post here first because it's sort of like a "speak of the devil" situation. Right as Lightyear is failing, Lasseter pulls out a teaser on what he is working on.
 
TP2000

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TwilightZone said:
Well I am not sure where else in the forums this will fit yet, but remember Lasseter's new company Skydance? They are making a movie for Apple+.


If there is anywhere in this forum where this fits please direct me there, but I found this interesting to post here first because it's sort of like a "speak of the devil" situation. Right as Lightyear is failing, Lasseter pulls out a teaser on what he is working on.
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Please tell me that cat sidekick's name is Rox, or Lox, or Fox. 🤣
 
TrainsOfDisney

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TwilightZone said:
Well I am not sure where else in the forums this will fit yet, but remember Lasseter's new company Skydance? They are making a movie for Apple+.


If there is anywhere in this forum where this fits please direct me there, but I found this interesting to post here first because it's sort of like a "speak of the devil" situation. Right as Lightyear is failing, Lasseter pulls out a teaser on what he is working on.
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Yup. That’s where the brains of Pixar went alright. That trailer looks so good!
 
TwilightZone

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Now the failure of Lightyear isn't too concerning, sure it is a sign there needs to be something changed, but disney flicks tend to make money.

However looking deep into what talent Skydance studios is getting is really concerning and reminds me a lot of the whole Dreamworks split of the 00s. Sure Skydance is going to be Apple+ exclusive for a while, which could hurt it, but it is also getting big name/long time Disney people: Brad Bird, Nathan Greno (co director of Tangled), Rich Moore (director of Zootopia), Peggy Holmes (Director of Ariel's Beginning...which is one of the better prequels), Alan Menken (composer of many Disney flicks).

This is really concerning, it is a sign that something is going up in upper management that is causing a bunch of mostly big name disney creators away from disney to join another company. Something so bad that people would rather go join someone who is "cancelled" over Chappy and whoever else.
 

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