Lightning Lane Premier Pass

[Sirwalterraleigh]

LLPP = you get one ride on each ride/attraction in a park. I guess that could be considered "useful" if you just want to attempt to do each ride in a park once. But you still are paying a rather high price to be standing with every other LL purchaser who is in line whenever you walk in (pointed comment at the Rise's and Slinky's and 7DMT's and Tron's).

The single use is what really makes this a far less attractive product than up the road.

The price is more in line with the top tier/unlimited fee…and that is of limited use and appeal.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Short selling it a bit there by leaving out the best feature, you don't have to schedule or plan for rides in anyway shape or form.

There is a below zero chance I will ever pay for it, but I can see how it would be appealing to people who can afford it, don't go often, and hate lines.

I worded it poorly, the “whenever you walk in” part. You don’t have to schedule but you’re also then standing in line with everyone else who did at that particular time.

 

[Splash4eva]

The single use is what really makes this a far less attractive product than up the road.

The price is more in line with the top tier/unlimited fee…and that is of limited use and appeal.

Can you see them adding another tier to this? Ie unlimited rides for X amount?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Can you see them adding another tier to this? Ie unlimited rides for X amount?

They already have it…it’s the jockeys and it will run you $5,000

We need to go back to square one (1999) and understand what has happened:
They stopped adding capacity as crowds rose (as they have with travel since VJ Day…) and began to create “demand” with shortages. 100% intentional. It’s why they do rethemes over adds…primarily.

They don’t have the throughput/seat capacity to do elaborate additional “tiers”…it would collapse and the line at guest services would stretch across the lagoon (it’s embarrassing how those occurrences have grown already)

It’s numbers…and the numbers don’t work.

Now celebrate the genius who is so proud of this that he keeps doing it…

 

[wdwmagic]

Lightning Lane Premier Pass Selling Out Fast for Thanksgiving Week at Disney World​

Lightning Lane Premier Pass Selling Out Fast for Thanksgiving Week at Disney World

Lightning Lane Premier Pass Selling Out Fast for Thanksgiving Week at Disney World

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[DisneyCane]

I mean... it isn't crowded today... but LLPP isn't sold out for today. It'll be interesting to see how the lines look in a week.

Disney is currently balancing a few things:

• Sell as many LLPP as possible
• Give people enough perceived value from LLPP, that they recommend it to people/use it again
• For people that don't buy LLPP, sell as many LLMP/LLSP as possible
• Give people enough perceived value from LLMP/LLSP, that they recommend it to people/use it again
• For people that don't buy any LL, give them enough perceived value that they recommend people come to WDW or return themselves
• Keep everyone happy enough to continue to buy Merch

This has got to be tough to do on a ride like Pan with it's high demand and horrible capacity.

They need to find a way to do to Pan what they did to Dumbo and build a clone adjacent to it. I know the space doesn't exist but the capacity is terrible.

I know they could design a new track that can support 2 row ride vehicles or something but it would change the experience to be in the back row.

Regarding LLPP, if I wasn't a passholder that has been to the parks probably 200 times, the only way I would even consider buying it is if there was some perk attached besides just reduced waits. MAYBE it would be worth it if you could choose where you want to sit on a ride or something like that and include free fountain drinks and snacks. Just to have the same experience you have without it and pay a ridiculous amount to reduce wait time is not remotely worth it to me.

 

[Splash4eva]

They already have it…it’s the jockeys and it will run you $5,000

We need to go back to square one (1999) and understand what has happened:
They stopped adding capacity as crowds rose (as they have with travel since VJ Day…) and began to create “demand” with shortages. 100% intentional. It’s why they do rethemes over adds…primarily.

They don’t have the throughput/seat capacity to do elaborate additional “tiers”…it would collapse and the line at guest services would stretch across the lagoon (it’s embarrassing how those occurrences have grown already)

It’s numbers…and the numbers don’t work.

Now celebrate the genius who is so proud of this that he keeps doing it…

Its always been a capacity issue and that will never change add in less entertainment and less hours and people not as willing to just stroll its a recipe for disaster. The sad thing is they meaning Bob feel they need to intentionally do this to force people to pay when sadly. People imo will always pay for convenience especially the high income ones which seems to be their target. People coming for a once in a lifetime trip or someone not coming often are gonna pay.

 

[DisneyCane]

Instead of all the LL stuff, I'd rather that each park has a once weekly, very expensive after hours event that has capacity limited so that the worst wait time is 15 minutes and most things are walk on. Then just go back to all standby during normal hours.

People who want to pay for low waits can spend $300 per person or something for a 7 to midnight event.

 

[Chi84]

Instead of all the LL stuff, I'd rather that each park has a once weekly, very expensive after hours event that has capacity limited so that the worst wait time is 15 minutes and most things are walk on. Then just go back to all standby during normal hours.

People who want to pay for low waits can spend $300 per person or something for a 7 to midnight event.

That would be great for adults without kids.