Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[DCBaker]

 

[DisneyDodo]

Another option would be to double the capacity of the Magic Kingdom ... How?

Turn it into a two session park, and run it for more hours.

Session A - 7 am till 3 pm
Session B - 3 pm till 11 pm

$120 a ticket for each session or $200 for both.

Now you essentially doubled MKs capacity for the day. Like a restaurant turning tables over during the evening hours.

Or if you want to be crazy, build a second MK

This doesn't double capacity - it halves it, for the same price.

 

[doctornick]

The choice still exists, and the consequences are much the same as I experienced in 1991: aimlessness is less efficient than planning. Some may prefer that, and that’s their right.

Right. And the main reason that spontaneous days are less enjoyable is not because of these products but because of massive increases in attendance (without a corresponding increase in capacity). It’s not like the parks have been “relaxing” and not busy this past summer without fast pass existing.

 

[aliceismad]

Another option would be to double the capacity of the Magic Kingdom ... How?

Turn it into a two session park, and run it for more hours.

Session A - 7 am till 3 pm
Session B - 3 pm till 11 pm

$120 a ticket for each session or $200 for both.

Now you essentially doubled MKs capacity for the day. Like a restaurant turning tables over during the evening hours.

Or if you want to be crazy, build a second MK

Yeah. They do that. It's called afterhours events and parties. Many people on these boards hate them.

 

[jpinkc]

I'm assuming it's the money it costs. Leaving a bad taste in people's mouths to have to pay for what was once free.

Really it was never truly Free it was baked in to your Park Ticket and Room Reservation for on site. Now if they had LOWERED Regular Admission ticket and done this It would be seen as the SHALLOW CASH GRAB IT IS

 

[Ladyderks]

12am

 

[po1998]

Or......

(And I know has been suggested constantly for the past 22 years and always shut down)

They could build a fifth gate. If the issue is that there are too many people in the resorts and they're not building rides, keep the hotel rooms the same and build a fifth park. In theory you would reduce congestion in the other parks by 20%. I understand that they're super cheap and not interested in creating anything new but that's the obvious fix for the "We have too many people!!" problem.

What is just as effective and less costly than a 5th gate...add more attractions to the four existing parks.

 

[dreday3]

12am

Well, I don't think it matters when you purchase it, you can purchase at 6:58 am and still make the reservation at 7!

 

[Missing20K]

Or rope dropping them, which is an option everywhere except Rise and, initially, Rat.

And GotG, and TRON, and…….

Nope. A fifth gate would increase total crowd levels by more than 20%, making things more crowded, not less. And those crowds would disproportionately visit the Magic Kingdom. And they would disproportionately want to be on Main Street at Fireworks time.

Bringing more total people to Walt Disney World puts additional strain on the spots that are already pinch points.

So do you ever increase supply? Or just increase prices and efficiency? (A slightly rhetorical, mostly not, general economics question)

Would there be any circumstance in which it would make sense to increase capacity? (A mostly non-rhetorical question, slightly not, specific DIS question)

 

[DCLcruiser]

I thought Genie+ could be purchased like a Hopper; at the time of booking your trip?

 

[NoOtherOptions]

Why not scrap this Genie / Genie + concept / project keep what is already in place while thinking things through on how to, now hold on to your shirt, providing a special experience for the guests. The old happy guests spend more money thing rather than how can how to scam a few more dollars off the suckers.

Why would they ever scrap it when in like 3 months people will stop complaining and just eat their gruel?

 

[Missing20K]

12am

Solid 6.5 hours of sleep per night. Seems reasonable for a vacation destination that relies quite significantly on families with young and younger children. I suppose I’ll set an alarm for 11:58 pm to purchase G+ and 6:58 am to buy the IAS time slots.

 

[NoOtherOptions]

I thought Genie+ could be purchased like a Hopper; at the time of booking your trip?

It can. It can also be bought day of. At least that's how they originally described it. The description is saying you can also buy it at time of LL booking.

 

[pdude81]

I thought Genie+ could be purchased like a Hopper; at the time of booking your trip?

It can for a ticket package. But you could also add daily a la carte, whether for single days on multi day tickets or AP.

 

[Rteetz]

TA call was a whole bunch nothing other than that guests can buy genie day of at midnight and then start booking attractions at 7am. So you don't have to do it all at 7.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Why would they ever scrap it when in like 3 months people will stop complaining and just eat their gruel?

Yet to be seen. Even the lowliest of creatures on this earth will take a stand if pushed enough.

 

[pdude81]

Solid 6.5 hours of sleep per night. Seems reasonable for a vacation destination that relies quite significantly on families with young and younger children. I suppose I’ll set an alarm for 11:58 pm to purchase G+ and 6:58 am to buy the IAS time slots.

People get sleep on a WDW vacation? This surprises me if you want to get on more than 3 rides a day

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

Hope they don’t go ALL the way back to the Glory Days….ticket book and that’s it…pay extra if you want more than five rides

 

[Chi84]

It appears Disney does not want its guests to sleep during their visit.

 

[Ladyderks]

Well, I don't think it matters when you purchase it, you can purchase at 6:58 am and still make the reservation at 7!

Ya…. My brain totally overlooked that