Jeff4272
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so i would have to get up at 5am? joke
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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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JMcMahonEsq
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Not really. If you are waiting for 45 in line during park hours, that is 45minutes you can not utilize any other park service/ride/show/ect. If you wait prior to park opening for 45min, and then 10minutes during park open hours, you have only lost 10min of park time, not 55.
And that attitude is why I got on and off FOP as a non- resort guest in 25 minutes while others that refuse to do it wait 2 or 3 hours for it.
Each to their own....I hit the parks hard and prepare and organise to the best of my ability to squeeze every last drop out of the day. I do that because I live in the UK and I only visit 3 times a year...along with it being expensive, so each time I'm in Orlando I'm doing whatever it takes to do what I want to do in the parks.
Not for everyone...but people can't complain about 3 hour queues when they refuse to put the effort in to get that wait time down to 20 minutes.
I can sleep when I'm dead.
Yep, unfortunately so. Its far from ideal, but I understand the assignment - have a lie in and wait 2 or 3 hours in the queue...or pay $ 65 for my group in ILL....or get up early, have a coffee and breakfast in the queue and get on and off in 25 minutes...and get on the subsequent rides quickly too as by then everyone in the park is in a 2 hour FOP queue while the other queues are almost walk on.
Yep..and as I said, it also have a knock on effect as your next 2 or 3 rides are going to be almost walk ons because after ypur FOP, most guests will be still in the FOP queue far a good hour or so after...so by rope dropping FOP you actually, in real time, probably save 3 or 4 hours of your day.
AK to us is just a rope dropping park to me now . I'm done by 11am.....rope drop FOP,G+ Navi,Walk on Safari,2 or 3 walk ons for Everest, kali walk on, bug..then round to Dinosaur for a walk on..then I'm outta there. Last week we were out at 11am so had to have some drinks and food at the Boardwalk to kill some time before being able to tap into Epcot at 2pm!
Snooze you lose...lol
crazy4disney
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$20 per day. Bring back FP+ solves the puzzle.
pdude81
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It solves it for some people who like to plan ahead. Not so much for people who book last minute. Not really possible for annual passholders who they are trying to get the money each day from, and not for them operationally because a ride going down might have 4 more hours of passes that suddenly get used somewhere else. That would have been a better place to start, but we're not going back.
But I do get it...I totally understand that not everyone's idea of a vacation is getting up at 6 in the morning.
I just choose to do it as its the most effective way to make the most of your disney visit...and hell, its so expensive to go to Disney now you feel like you need to do it to justify the cost.
Getting up at 5.30/6 at the time feels tough...but when I'm coming out if AK at 11am having done the whole park, and I look at the current wait time of FOP being 2 or 3 hours...its then that I realise why I do it. I've done the park in 3 hours and some unfortunate people are stuck in 1 queue for those 3 hours.
I just choose to do it as its the most effective way to make the most of your disney visit...and hell, its so expensive to go to Disney now you feel like you need to do it to justify the cost.
Getting up at 5.30/6 at the time feels tough...but when I'm coming out if AK at 11am having done the whole park, and I look at the current wait time of FOP being 2 or 3 hours...its then that I realise why I do it. I've done the park in 3 hours and some unfortunate people are stuck in 1 queue for those 3 hours.
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crazy4disney
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Im just curious. A disney vacation has needed planning for a very long time now what did people do this past decade or so?
Jrb1979
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That price is still too low. IMO it needs to be priced somewhere in the $60-$75 range. They need to price it where some people will buy it but a lot less then how many buy it now.
pdude81
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Jrb1979
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I agree it's need planning for a long time. It's also another thing I point when I say they make going to Disney more complicated then it needs to be. I know Universal isn't quite the same but planning a vacation there versus Disney is night and day.
Chi84
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This is so true. I remember buying the official and unofficial guides to WDW in the mid-80’s. Planning was always necessary if you wanted the best shot at the experiences that meant the most to you.
Disney Glimpses
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Personally, I think the existing product at $49 (with no Individual Lightning Lane selections) for only resort guests would do it with minimal impact to the standby queues.
The big problem I see with charging say $40/$50/$70 is that it is such a shambles that its hard to warrant buying it. If it was $70 to pay for FP+ then I probably would consider it as it was a really slick, easy to use and totally uncomplicated system.
Id resent paying $70 for Genie+ as its terribly flawed and hard work at times.
Id resent paying $70 for Genie+ as its terribly flawed and hard work at times.
Andrew25
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For us theme park geeks, that's perfectly fine - I used/still do that. I fully expect people to complain waiting in a 3 hour queue... since it's 1 out of 6* "rides" at DAK you can experience - less if you can't handle motion sickness or want to avoid getting wet.
The long-term solution to genie is, and will always be adding capacity.
crazy4disney
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but then you still have long lines for majority of the people there now for every ride if you price people out.... have we not realized there is NOT enough ride/attraction capacity at these parks to meet demand? FP+ unless im mistaken was not a hated part of a Disney vacation by the majority of visitors. Do you truly believe eliminating most people from using a skip the line system will make the lines dramatically better?
The assumption here is that if less of them were sold, it wouldn't be a shambles. That charging that much would reduce the number sold by reducing demand at that price point.
Again, the assumption is that G+ fails because there's to many of them sold and that it would work fine if there were just less of them every day. If they're not going to restrict the number sold directly, meaning it's still never sold out just like today, then the price needs to increase until it's high enough to naturally reduce demand.
Even $70 may not be enough.
You probably wouldn't resent paying it, since the price likely needs to be high enough that you wouldn't pay it. Then you can resent not getting it at all instead.
