Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

ChrisRobin124

Active Member
Like wth... That's insane. That's 1/3 of the time for one ride...
Surprised the heck out of us! MMRR is a bad choice in the 10-noon timeframe. Too many people strolling in and going there since it is the first thing they get to. I just find Hollywood Studios too small a footprint for the number of people drawn there.
 

mikejs78

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Its the Bean Counters cutting down on CM's because of what they consider a Low Attendance day. Its not about the Disney Experience anymore its about $$$.
This is just factually inaccurate. Disney is desperately trying to *hire* people.

And Disney has always had fewer cast members on low attendance days, going back to 1971.
 

DisneyJoe

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I travel with someone confined to a wheelchair and have had the completely opposite experience. Uni staff and the parks in general were far more accommodating then WDW, where the crowds made navigation difficult, cast was harried, and procedures were often unclear. We stay at Uni now in large part because of how easily a person in a wheelchair can navigate it, thanks largely to the transportation system, compact but not stuffed layout, and great cast.
I like the size and closeness of the Universal parks and resorts too, it reminds me of Disneyland, but my issue is with participating in and on the attractions themselves. ECVs are not handled at Universal well as they are at WDW, nor are guests with prosthetics. It's very embarrassing to wait in a queue and finally get to a ride to board and then be told that you cannot ride because you don't fit their profile of the perfect rider. This happens even with those whose body size is just slightly larger than Universal's ideal.
 
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999th Happy Haunt

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It's a tubular coaster that is overlaid over an entire waterfront and pathway area .. including huge vertical elements that clash with the whole decor of the land and even it's neighboring HP land.
Who would have thought that a rollercoaster wouldn’t fit in a land literally based off of a theme park
 

Casper Gutman

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I like the size and closeness of the Universal parks and resorts too, it reminds me of Disneyland, but my issue is with participating in and on the attractions themselves. ECVs are not handled at Universal well as they are at WDW, nor are guests with prosthetics. It's very embarrassing to wait in a queue and finally get to a ride to board and then be told that you cannot ride because you don't fit their profile of the perfect rider. This happens even with those whose body size is just slightly larger than Universal's ideal.
I tend to agree with much of this. WDW has traditionally been excellent about accomadating all guests, much better then Uni.

HOWEVER…

WDW has recently abandoned this as a priority. FoP and Tron are as restrictive as any ride at Uni. Even SDMT causes problems for some folks. We’ll have to see about GotG. The change in philosophy is, along with insane price increases, part of a larger trend of WDW telling certain guests they just don’t want them.

Uni, while still nowhere near perfect, is showing signs of getting better - Velo is much more accommodating then earlier coasters. So between a park that is actively becoming more restrictive after 50 years of accommodation and another that is staying the same or trying to improve, my good will goes to the latter.

PS: and over the last four years, I’ve found WDW shockingly awful at handling ECVs, though that may just be personal experience.
 

wedenterprises

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In part I do believe you are correct, but with the new park reservations system they are also using that to decide how much staffing "THEY" think they need, which is short of what is actually needed.
The value of park reservations to Disney is to limit and spread out crowds across all 4 parks and across the calendar. On top of that they sell them as perks. They're literally selling thin air for money. It's evil genius.

The reservation system is not a staffing tool. It might help them staff efficiently, sure, but that's not what it's for.
 

DisneyJoe

Well-Known Member
PS: and over the last four years, I’ve found WDW shockingly awful at handling ECVs, though that may just be personal experience.
Handling them in what regard?

IMO, the biggest difference between Uni and WDW with ECVs is that the majority of Uni attractions do not allow ECVs in the queue, you must transfer to a wheelchair before entering the queue.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
Well, if this is now a Disney v. Uni thread.... what's the deal with Uni lockers??!!1!!

Ugh. I hate the constant need to put things in lockers before getting on an attraction at Universal.

If I can keep a small bag in a pouch or at my feet, on a roller coaster at WDW that goes upside down, why do I need to store every single loose item before riding something as tame as the Mummy?

Is that what you were talking about? Is this totally off topic? Does it matter?
 

homerdance

Well-Known Member
No. It's a labor shortage. That's why there's no parades and some restaurants and hotels aren't open.
Right now, perhaps. But Disney isn't being overly aggressive about hiring employees either. IF they so desired, they could on board more people then they are, but they are being conservative/cheap on hiring with the softer bookings into 2021.
 

jpinkc

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No. It's a labor shortage. That's why there's no parades and some restaurants and hotels aren't open.
I dont doubt that its some of the labor shortage. But I think in the long run its kinda about what Slappie was saying at the Goldman Sachs thing about yield management and efficiency savings at the park with the park reservation system. That to me is more concerning because its a kinda BS metric to me once its after 2pm and park hopping starts. They have no way to predict when a low reservation day goes crazy because they set the CM's needed based on a flawed metric. We dont park hop often, but we have if we were checking wait times and saw low times and it was something we wanted to do again we park hopped.

As to parades I think its a mix of Shortage and Covid fears a bit, we all know how crowded it gets during the parades.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I guess you didn’t read the rest of the post. They know they can’t rely on their IP to carry them across the finish line so they put actual effort into making the attraction good. Disney specializes in expensive mediocrity.

Eh, don't really agree, but people can have their preferences. FoP certainly doesn't rely on its IP any more than Velocicoaster does (for example). And Uni certainly has their share of stuff that basically relies on liking the IP to be able to get significant enjoyment - I mean, I've ridden Fast and the Furious and I don't know what the heck they were thinking there. Perhaps more relevant, I would argue that while Diagon Alley itself is fantastic I can't believe how much they ailed it in with Gringotts as a ride. I mean, a fantastic ride system and concept and you waste it just shuttling people between scenes from a movie?

Anyhow, I haven't experienced Hagrids (talk about a problem with ride reliability and lines - not issues unique to Disney) but I'd put the last 6 or 7 years of WDW at least on par with Uni in terms of new offerings. Certainly with nothing beyond 2022 planned for Disney, the years after will be all Uni (much like the period surrounding the opening of WWOHP and Forbidden Journey) unless Disney starts greenlighting and approving.
 

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