Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

networkpro · 2024-09-30T09:05:48-0400

lentesta said:
I think it'll go higher. We'll see.

I believe it so as well, more in line with the cost structure of Universals' Express pass.

wdisney9000 · 2024-09-30T09:06:36-0400

Disstevefan1 said:
I think TWDC prefers these types of guests.

They get the money from the hotel stay and get the money from the dining plan and I bet there is a spreadsheet somewhere in the finance committee that says these kind of guests saves the company costs in the theme parks by these guests staying away from the parks.

Oh I'm sure they do. Especially compared to the guests who stay offsite, bring their own food to the parks and don't buy any merchandise. But they've created more of these type of guests with the constant price increases.

The last decade of administration for the parks have turned it into an ouroborus.

Disstevefan1 · 2024-09-30T09:07:24-0400

ToTBellHop said:
Actual footage of D’Amaro entering the office today:
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Increasing LL prices is like printing money. They do zero for it and new money is just rolling in.

They can use some of that money to file permits they let expire for work they have no intention on doing in the parks.

Ayla · 2024-09-30T09:31:26-0400

So, a second price increase announced within days of each other and no one bats an eye? SMH

John park hopper · 2024-09-30T09:39:58-0400

Over the years we adjusted our spending to compensate for the constant price increases --less Table service meals, bring our own food and snacks, no buying Disney merchandize. Gotten to the point even that does not help ---you have lost a long time fan, I'm sure Disney could are less

JD80 · 2024-09-30T09:44:35-0400

John park hopper said:
Over the years we adjusted our spending to compensate for the constant price increases --less Table service meals, bring our own food and snacks, no buying Disney merchandize. Gotten to the point even that does not help ---you have lost a long time fan, I'm sure Disney could are less

Disney is not monolithic because there are different business groups (merch, dining, park ops etc.) that are run by individuals that have bonuses tied to performance. You take money for away from Merch/Dining and it goes into the LL bucket then the Merch and Dining execs get nervous.

We'll see how it goes long term. People only have so much money. LLMP isn't going away though. Frankly I'm surprised free FP+ lasted so long since every other Disney park had a paid version of line skipping.

JAN J · 2024-09-30T09:58:39-0400

lentesta said:
Take this for what it's worth.

I'm told that if you look at the supply/demand curve for LL, there's tons of room for Disney to increase prices when crowds are above average.

That is, there are still more people willing to throw more money at waiting less in line.

I don't think they'll do it, but it would not surprise me if the math showed revenue maxxed out at around $75 per person per day during the winter holidays.

Interesting point.

I would also add that increasing prices in LL is a lot less impactful to overall attendance than increasing regular price tickets.

KDM31091 · 2024-09-30T09:59:38-0400

LL costs them nothing to offer, so the constant price increases seem very tacky. It’s just greed. Just abolish it and make one standby line that moves quickly.

Unfortunately people keep paying it so it keeps going up and up. For $20 a ride you should least get more than 1 ride, as in let you do it 3 times or something if you want. It’s a rip off.

Indy_UK · 2024-09-30T10:02:29-0400

Ayla said:
So, a second price increase announced within days of each other and no one bats an eye? SMH

What's the 2nd increase? I saw the ILL got a $1 rise each

bmr1591 · 2024-09-30T10:03:08-0400

I'd prefer they raise LL prices than park ticket prices.

KDM31091 · 2024-09-30T10:03:19-0400

Indy_UK said:
What's the 2nd increase? I saw the ILL got a $1 rise each

It was announced yesterday that SDMT for example will be $13 as of Oct 18

Now as of Oct 21 it will be $14

Ayla · 2024-09-30T10:03:29-0400

KDM31091 said:
LL costs them nothing to offer, so the constant price increases seem very tacky. It’s just greed. Just abolish it and make one standby line that moves quickly.

Unfortunately people keep paying it so it keeps going up and up. For $20 a ride you should least get more than 1 ride, as in let you do it 3 times or something if you want. It’s a rip off.

Anything you want to ride, however many times by standing in line, should be included in your highly-inflated admission price.

KDM31091 · 2024-09-30T10:03:54-0400

bmr1591 said:
I'd prefer they raise LL prices than park ticket prices.

Don’t worry. They will do both.

Ayla · 2024-09-30T10:05:03-0400

Indy_UK said:
What's the 2nd increase? I saw the ILL got a $1 rise each

It was announced today.

Disstevefan1 · 2024-09-30T10:05:17-0400

bmr1591 said:
I'd prefer they raise LL prices than park ticket prices.

Don't worry, they will do both.

Indy_UK · 2024-09-30T10:13:15-0400

Ayla said:
It was announced today.

After rise on the same ILL rides? Oh Jesus.

They really don't think there's a ceiling is there? Attendance is soft isn't it?

Ayla · 2024-09-30T10:14:04-0400

Indy_UK said:
After rise on the same ILL rides? Oh Jesus.

They really don't think there's a ceiling is there? Attendance is soft isn't it?

Yep.

Andrew C · 2024-09-30T10:16:04-0400

networkpro said:
I believe it so as well, more in line with the cost structure of Universals' Express pass.

At this point, they really should just do a Universal express pass system and be done with it...

JMcMahonEsq · 2024-09-30T10:17:09-0400

KDM31091 said:
LL costs them nothing to offer, so the constant price increases seem very tacky. It’s just greed. Just abolish it and make one standby line that moves quickly.

Unfortunately people keep paying it so it keeps going up and up. For $20 a ride you should least get more than 1 ride, as in let you do it 3 times or something if you want. It’s a rip off.

This is silly. First LL has development costs, infrastructure, implementation costs, maintenance, hosting costs., ect., all of which cost/costs the company money.

Second its not greed, its a busienss, the company is supposed to make money. It has a product that people want. Contrary to some on these message boards, people do NOT want to go back in time over 25 years ago to when there were no fast passes.

Third, why is it unfortunate that WDW has found something people want to buy, and are selling it at a price that people think has value? If you don't like it, that's fine don't buy it. But on the limited amount of time I can get away from work, and get my family on a vacation, we are not going to waste time standing around in lines. We, and it appears enough other customers, are willing to pay additional amounts to skip past lines. But i know some people (mostly without kids) who don't mind going to the parks, and just casually walking from drink spot to snack stand, to show, and will just hop on whatever rides they want, that have good wait times. They don't want/value the same things I do, and i like that Disney has different pricing features so that we both get what we want.

HauntedPirate · 2024-09-30T10:19:09-0400

larryz said:
They can kiss my back pocket if they think I'm paying ~ $145 to get in and another $21 to ride a two-minute roller coaster.

You don't get to ride Tron twice for that $21.

lentesta said:
Take this for what it's worth.

I'm told that if you look at the supply/demand curve for LL, there's tons of room for Disney to increase prices when crowds are above average.

I wonder what they will do with LL prices the other 350 days of 2025...

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