Curious Constance
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How will we tell when the CMs giving rude, sarcastic responses to guest questions changes from acting to genuinely rude and sarcastic?
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Less Immersion Improves Galaxy's Edge
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George Lucas on a Bench
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Disneyland hit peak immersion back in the late 1960s when the egg-shaped cars in the Haunted Mansion turned riders toward a set of mirrors showing a ghost reflecting back at them.
Having no music and selectively changing the font on signs while cast members refer to fireworks as a "space battle" or whatever doesn't make it more immersive. It just makes it kinda stupid.
Having no music and selectively changing the font on signs while cast members refer to fireworks as a "space battle" or whatever doesn't make it more immersive. It just makes it kinda stupid.
Old Mouseketeer
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I hear that the stunt show that appeared at the press opening on the Garage catwalk could come back. They kept live entertainment to a minimum until they have a handle on the crowds. It's not being cheap--it's being careful. I'm extremely critical of the incompetence of not addressing parking and traffic issues for twenty years. But being careful about the potential crowds with all the inherent unknowns--I'm willing to cut Disney some slack. I think they have been careful for a reason. My Bothans tell me there is infrastructure in place for more live atmosphere entertainment. I'm not judging SW:GE solely on today. I'm willing to reserve final judgment until RotR is open, Pixar Pals is in full operation, and the crowds have stabilized. I have some concerns over certain choices they have made--but unlike most motion pictures, the show on opening day isn't the final show. I think they're off to a good start. I'll judge them on what comes later when it indeed comes.
Figments Friend
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No, GE not being 1880's steampunk San Francisco with blimps and time machine hunting expeditions will always be its downfall. At least until the inevitable conversion happens.
And I, for one, am so awaiting that long overdue day.
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Figments Friend
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Imagineers hands are always tied.
That is a unfortunate side effect of today's management regiment.
Yes, I too share the disappointment is the apparent lack of 'Streetmosphere' options and general entertainment options in the new area.
I remember discussion here about a month or so roughly before previews began that a lot of the planned 'environmental entertainment' such as roaming beings, Droids, and proposed creatures was cut.
It's a shame really, as that 'active' setting element is very much a part of the 'Star Wars' universe.
Think of just about any outdoor scene in any of the 'Star Wars' films, and you may recall it was teeming with random beings strolling by or a crowd of beings miliing about engaging in various activites.
It's a film making and place setting technique to bring a scene or the set to life on screen.
Tantoonie's Mos Eisley spaceport, the lower bowels of Coransant, Cloud City's centers of industry, the Death Star interiors, Geonosis, you name it.
The various unknown people and assorted other life forms just walking around in those scenes really added a lot of interest and depth to those settings....not to mention add immensely to the entertainment value to the viewers.
The same is true for 'Galaxy's Edge'.
Image how much LESSER of a experience Disneyland would be without all of the completely random characters, people, performers, musicians, and Park personalities you encountered during a visit.
Attractions are great n' all, but it takes more then rides to make a theme park visit memorable.
As Uncle Walt one said - " it takes people to make the dream a reality'.
So I'm looking at you, 'Galaxy's Edge' -
Where are your 'people'....?
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RobWDW1971
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Um, that's great, but I paid $1,000+ to take my family and friends now, so it would have been nice if some of those things they are waiting to add were there when they are charging their customers full rip. And there have never been too many crowds for atmosphere entertainment, stunt shows, droids, bounty hunters, etc. That is just spin.
Curious Constance
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And what time would be better to try out your planned performers than when you’re literally controlling who comes into the land for an entire month?
THE 1HAPPY HAUNT
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Lest we forget the worst sin of the land, not being able to enter the Falcon up the ramp. this is not sthcik. This is a very real gripe. I have seen the queue video. so you turn a corner and are suddenly in a jet way that awkwardly puts you in the flacon but where is the jetway connected to?? It would be one thing if we turned the corner and saw the jet way actually connecting to the out part of the falcon so we get a sense of how it is attached to the hull and what side of the falcon we are entering. But no, we just are in a random jetway that leads you into the falcon but you can see from the jetway that whether you go left or right you would be led to a chess room no matter what so they give away they have more than one falcon chess room show building off the bat and that right there ruins the immersion. they needed to design it where you enter via the ramp or the hatch at the top like Luke did in empire. This is the flacon, not a boeing 747. The jetway is poorly thoughtout for not in any of the films has anyone entered a parked ship via a jetway and it is uncreative and desperate.
Haunt I know it’s not going to sway you but on the Falcon, halfway back from the cockpit there is a large flat circle. It is very obvious that this is the point of entry based on how you enter the cockpit from the chess room if you apply logic. I also don’t think it takes much imagination to accept this as a cargo bay door. It’s really not that bad.
Phroobar
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He is just being silly. Pay him no mind.
Disney Analyst
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Isn’t the connection right above the ramp? You can see it on the Falcon
No. It's being cheap, combined with inept design choices. Meanwhile, Cars Land has no problem safely driving full-size talking automobiles through the middle of crowds dozens of times a day. I agree it's early in the land's life... but this is the way they chose to open it, so they can just darn well fend off the rotten tomatoes they earn while they find a fix.
TROR
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Hopefully sooner!Should we start a contest on how long until these guys show up in Galaxy's Edge? I say by Thanksgiving.
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TrainsOfDisney
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Yup, this solo trip for me cost $1,500 roughly (round trip flight and basic motel across the street. I’m not counting my annual pass that I already bought). Count me as underwhelmed. It’s ok. Would have never guessed I would like an avatar land better than a Star Wars land. It’s like I’m walking through a giant movie museum experience. It doesn’t feel alive and it doesn’t feel like Disney (avatar does to me.... and that makes no sense to me. Ha).
I mention the money just to mention that Disney’s guests are paying lots of money to see a land that is really half opened. I’m not just talking about the rides.... I’m
Talking about the lack of atmosphere.
Disneyland park will always give me my moneys worth, but it’s Mr. Toad and the horse drawn trolleys and such... the classics, that have made me feel like I got my money’s worth. Not the billion dollar expansion.
I mention the money just to mention that Disney’s guests are paying lots of money to see a land that is really half opened. I’m not just talking about the rides.... I’m
Talking about the lack of atmosphere.
Disneyland park will always give me my moneys worth, but it’s Mr. Toad and the horse drawn trolleys and such... the classics, that have made me feel like I got my money’s worth. Not the billion dollar expansion.
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Old Mouseketeer
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Should we start a contest on how long until these guys show up in Galaxy's Edge? I say by Thanksgiving.
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I heard months ago from my rebel spies that these costumes were gone for good as in disapproved and no longer available for use. Specifically it was from someone in the Entertainment Division who is now retired from the company. That was one valuable Bothan!
They'll be back... but this time they'll spend less money on material and everything will look ratty in a week.
tirian
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Good thing Disney never before put any entertainment in any theme park before knowing how many people would be standing in walkways.
TrainsOfDisney
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The garage, the various ships, droid areas, and others are all screaming for activity.