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NTI2002

New Member
Main Street USA said:
I'd have to say the "stunts" in the Indy show are way outdated, and not near as impressive as they were when the show opened.

I have to disagree with this. I'm still amazed at how perfect the stunt performers' timing is. actually seeing how people do physical stunts with their bodies is always impressive. And it's an important part of modern film. I'd like to see the show stay. and See the ride go up as well.

People have said that they don't think the ride will come to mgm because Animal Kingdom has Dinosaur, which is apparantly the same ride layout...Well I'd like to point out that there are 4 versions of the Dumbo ride at WDW (talk about having the same ride layout), so you never know.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
NTI2002 said:
I have to disagree with this. I'm still amazed at how perfect the stunt performers' timing is. actually seeing how people do physical stunts with their bodies is always impressive. And it's an important part of modern film. I'd like to see the show stay. and See the ride go up as well.

People have said that they don't think the ride will come to mgm because Animal Kingdom has Dinosaur, which is apparantly the same ride layout...Well I'd like to point out that there are 4 versions of the Dumbo ride at WDW (talk about having the same ride layout), so you never know.
Not to mention Star Tours, and Body Wars. They have the same ride system, the same basic layout, and very similar names. They also have 4 3-D shows. I think Indy and Dinosaur will be fine together. Most guests would never even notice the similarities.
 

Lynx04

New Member
peter11435 said:
What do you have against the EMV?
I have nothing against EMV. I am strongly against clones and recycled ride systems for the same theme. I like CTX because it is a different theme, although the layout is the same as Indy's. I would rather see some thing new done instead of a 10 year old attraction being rebuilt. I wasn't happy when I saw TOT built in DCA, I wouldn't be happy to see the same happen with Indy.

I think clones are quick inexpensive fixes for poor attendence. MGM does not need a quick fix, they need a solid state-of-the-art attraction.
 

Lynx04

New Member
peter11435 said:
Not to mention Star Tours, and Body Wars. They have the same ride system, the same basic layout, and very similar names. They also have 4 3-D shows. I think Indy and Dinosaur will be fine together. Most guests would never even notice the similarities.

I agree with this statement, Disney has never shied away from putting the same ride system even in the same park. Just think of all the Omnimovers each park had.

DL = ATIS and HM
MK = IYHW and HM
EPCOT = SSE, Horizons and WOM
 

LilDucky

New Member
peter11435 said:
Not to mention Star Tours, and Body Wars. They have the same ride system, the same basic layout, and very similar names. They also have 4 3-D shows. I think Indy and Dinosaur will be fine together. Most guests would never even notice the similarities.

Totally agree with you. I am by no means (and Im sure this go for you too) saying that people are dumb and arent smart enough to figure out that theyre the same, but our sensory perceptions tell us otherwise really. Yes, they are the exact same layout which means they are the same physical ride, but they are totally different rides in terms of experience.

Dark rides are all the same, but they are all different. Same goes for the omnimovers, or even the 3D shows. You can say "3D shows are all the same in that they always blow water in your face, etc...etc..." but we all know they arent. I wouldnt mind having another EMV tech (or as our dear friend Jay likes to say "Jeep" tech). I would hope that they would come out with someting different than "mara" theme, but I wouldnt be adamantly opposed to a clone, since the original is so good.

But if they were to come out with another spinner (IE dumbo, aladdin) then I would have to protest... :animwink:

and yeah, I know... its just another rumor, but hey...why not beat this horse till its dead? weve done it before... :lookaroun
 

shoppingnut

Active Member
I was in MGM this past July and we were there early in the day and we could only get an Indy FP for one of the shows at like 5p. The other shows were 100% full, we noticed as we passed by around 2p and again later. I like the show and my nephew thought it was great. I don't do TOT, can only do RNR once in a while and wouldn't even consider ST after getting sick from it the first time I went on. I believe that both shows will be crowded. I remember when they had the Beauty & The Beast and Hunchback shows in MGM at the same time and both were crowded.

Parking deck is a good idea, but I doubt Disney would want to build something like that because you'd probably be able to see it from the some of the hotels and that would spoil the magic. Also, parking decks come with a whole new set of higher taxes. UO has quite a unique pricing structure for their deck, one price for general parking and another if you want a spot up front.

Shows are what MGM is all about after all, I think there is a good mix of things, but they could stand to put in another ride or two that was on the milder side.
 

Hammer1310

New Member
I agree with most that while WDW certainly deserves a great attraction like the Indy ride I wish they would shy away from more clones. WDW already has the same ride system in Dinosaur, abiet not as good as Indy, and I would hate to see the stunt show go. I'm just not in favor of replacing older attractions, (see Alien Encounter, Horizons, World of Motion, Journey to Innerspace) I would hate to think in another decade or two we were trying to save PotC or HM.
 

Goofy23

Member
NadieMasK2 said:
I'd have to agree with Yoda, here. I am a HUGE Indy fan and would love to see the ride added to the show. The last 2 times I have seen the show it was very full, almost to capacity. And with the 4th movie release sometime in the future, it will probably become even more popular.

The movie is supposedly going to be out next year, 2006, and a DL clone ride would get more attendance since it's newer and would have a newer theme (unlike the Raiders show).
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Master Yoda said:
The way to solve the parking problem is to build a parking garage like they have at US. Then you free up space to expand.

Funnily enough, in the current Reedy Creek development plan there is a new clause to allow a WDW Park parking lot to become multi level. Now Epcot dosn`t need it, MK dosn`t need it, AK dosn`t need it, which leaves...
 

tazhughes

Member
marni1971 said:
Funnily enough, in the current Reedy Creek development plan there is a new clause to allow a WDW Park parking lot to become multi level. Now Epcot dosn`t need it, MK dosn`t need it, AK dosn`t need it, which leaves...

Downtown Disney
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Interesting...!! :lol:

Wasn`t there talk (rumour) of building a garage on the Team Disney parking lot and having a speedramp link to DTD some time ago?
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Master Yoda said:
The way to solve the parking problem is to build a parking garage like they have at US. Then you free up space to expand.

Agreed. But then there is the issue of seeing a parking garage over the trees and the people in the garage seeing areas backstage.
 

FamilyMan

Account Suspended
I'm going to guess that guests seeing backstage isn't a big issue any longer... I mean, we open up backstage on Main Street to go to Tomorrowland during Wishes, Soarin's entrance is backstage, etc.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
FamilyMan said:
I'm going to guess that guests seeing backstage isn't a big issue any longer... I mean, we open up backstage on Main Street to go to Tomorrowland during Wishes, Soarin's entrance is backstage, etc.

Yes but have you seen backstage at MGM? Been there many times and it isn't a pretty site! :hurl:

I'd just like to see that if Imagineers are going to spend millions of dollars on something, spend it on attractions rather than parking lots.
 

fuentesalex

Active Member
Okay, this might sound like a stupid question, but everyone around here is saying that there is no room to expand MGM. That you need to build a parking garage or bridge over World Drive. Looking at a Map, I think there is room. Unless they can't build there for some environmental reason. Take a look:

There is a huge space between TOT and RnR. Not that it is smart to build there. There is already enough people in that side of the park. But nonetheless, they could.

There is also a space between B&B and TOT. Not a huge space, but it can be a small attraction. Again, not the best idea to build here either.

Now, what suprises me that no one has mentioned (and if someone did, I'm sorry I missed it), is that the simplest cure to solve MGM's land space is to rebuild the main entrance road. As you can see in the map, MGM is bordered by a canal. They can reroute the road along the canal and they will have a huge space to work with next to Muppet vision/ the new stunt show and the indy show. The space is about 1/3 of the size of the existing park. They can easily tear down the backstage restaurant and put the new Indy ride there, keeping both stunt shows and expanding the park. And there wouldn't be a need for parking garages.

Anyways, maybe they cant build here due to environmental issues, but I doubt it. Look how the existing parking lots reach that canal.

What do you all think?

Ps. Lets not forget all the wasted space where the AMC theater is. And of course, the old animation building. It would be costly to tear it down and redo the animation attraction, but they could do that too. Disney can do anything.

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LadyDarling

New Member
Many good points. I remember out in here in Cali when they said they were building another park, we were all like "Where?" Then the built the largest parking structure in North America and we realized "Oh... THAT'S where".... But that just goes to show (to me) that Disney can make space! When they were putting in Indy in DL we said "Where?!" They just re-routed the Jungle Cruise canal. They aren't call "Immagineers" for nothing! :)
 

Lynx04

New Member
I wonder if the cost of steel will have an impact on any future expansion. I know that EE is being constructed but the ink was signed over 2 years ago for the project and I am sure Disney locked in a rate for what they will pay for steel. I am sure that any construction for an Indy attraction would require a lot of steel, although not as much as EE. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge on this subject could elaborate.
 

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