Lasers back on in Dinosaur

The Empress Lilly

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Ha! To think I started The List just as an excuse to get a few jokes in!


The newest version then of the serious, 100% official articos list of acknowledged insiders, as approved by Alek and Tim:

Marni (good friends with Martin)​
Whylightbulb​
Drew81​
The Empress Lilly (bestest insider)​
Articos​
Spirit​
WDW74 (spirit wannabe)​
Lee​
SirOinksALot (the sprite behind the spirit)​
Alektronic​
PeterAlt (knows all about the upcoming 5th gate)​
Tim_4 ("Fact: Avatar will come and it will be awesome")​
t3techcom18​
wdwmagic​
Eddie Sotto (aspiring imagineer, would be cool if they hired him, some of his stuff is promising, if unpolished)​
Raven​
Thrill Seeker​
Everything said about George is a lie, including this.​
 

The Empress Lilly

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Right. As Alek says, he does work and could be on, but there is also more to it. He'd need work to work reliably medium to long-term, and with the current environment (not spending money on maintenance or re-engineering, plus the current ruling of no animatronics or show effects above the guests that could potentially fail), management's choice is to simply turn him off.
Ha! I called this last year!

In a way, Disney has come to understand its own maintenance problems, its slipped standards. Elements that were installed in the 70s/80s/90s are now turned off, or removed, out of an understanding that much in the parks is maintained so poorly (sooner or later) that it poses a security risk if above guests.

All I heard after the problems in Paris with the boulder coming down on the Thunder train is 'no more overhead show effects'.
* looks in mirror, hand sliding through perfect hair, says in Elvis-impersonater voice: 'yo, you're the one, baby, you're the one' *
 

Tim_4

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I assume the idea is 'show element with moving parts'.
In a way, Disney has come to understand its own maintenance problems, its slipped standards. Elements that were installed in the 70s/80s/90s are now turned off, or removed, out of an understanding that much in the parks is maintained so poorly (sooner or later) that it poses a security risk if above guests.

I would not be surprised at all. All I heard after the problems in Paris with the boulder coming down on the Thunder train is 'no more overhead show effects'. (Or whatever the phrase was. I've tried to google it, but to no avail.)
Interesting guest survey in Epcot yesterday. One of the questions that jumped out at me asked about how "up to date" and "current" everything felt. Very interesting.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Interesting guest survey in Epcot yesterday. One of the questions that jumped out at me asked about how "up to date" and "current" everything felt. Very interesting.
What did you reply?

"The parts of Epcot that were build since the Epcotalypse of the late nineties look date and stale, whereas the remnants of EPCOT look timeless and fresh"? :)
 

jt04

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The Yeti actually works fine, but management decides to keep it off. First, it's all about the money. If they say it isn't about the money, it is definitely all about the money. Then it comes down to safety and the legal dept ( how much money can we be sued for if somethingh breaks). They are so afraid of being sued that instead fixing things to make it right, they would rather just turn it off and save money on maintenance and lawsuits. So no more show quality it is all about money savings. DAK is by far the worse of all the parks for maintenance wise.

Since this was about the lasers at Dinosaur, there are 2 lasers, one is Argon and the other is Krypton. Originally, the Argon(green) laser was used for the time portals and the end and beginning of the time tunnels. The Krypton laser was used the finale horizon meteor blast, then when they re-did the finale they moved the laser to the Iguanadon as a capture portal. Then like anything, things wear out after a lot of use. So they had to buy a new argon laser tube and they are expensive and they didn't like that at all. So after years of use, they had problems again, they replaced some parts here and there and tweaking on the PowerTrac. They decided instead of replacing the laser tube again, we will just use the Krypton(red) for all 3 laser portals. Then coming up with many excuses why not to use it like safety, what happens if it shoots someone in the eye? What happens when that fails? We don't have enough time to turn them on? They just decided to turn them off even though they still work fine. Just half of the other stuff in Dinosaur, it is just really depressing when you think of the stuff they got turned off and not using anymore and just collecting dust.

I suggested the issue with Yeti had to do with potential liability issues years ago. Who needs insiders when I am around? ;)
 

articos

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Interesting guest survey in Epcot yesterday. One of the questions that jumped out at me asked about how "up to date" and "current" everything felt. Very interesting.
ha. haha. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah.

sorry, couldn't hold that in.

Hang in, little Epcot, your turn is coming. (Everything current starts with Starbucks. Maybe they can turn the graveyard monoliths into ordering stations so your drink will be ready and waiting.)
 

Tim_4

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ha. haha. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah.

sorry, couldn't hold that in.

Hang in, little Epcot, your turn is coming. (Everything current starts with Starbucks. Maybe they can turn the graveyard monoliths into ordering stations so your drink will be ready and waiting.)
*Chants*

N-G-E! N-G-E!

*Crickets*

:D
 

jt04

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Are you implying:

A. GK is making them spruce up Epcot.
B. GK was there so they have to fake like they're going to spruce up Epcot.

I am trusting that he was brought in to do for WDW what he did for DL. So any positive trends will be credited to GK until proven otherwise.

I might add, that an article in OrSen today seems to confirm what I have been saying, that there is more to the FLE even after the mountain and PFH open.

Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foretold. :cool:
 

Tim_4

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I am trusting that he was brought in to do for WDW what he did for DL. So any positive trends will be credited to GK until proven otherwise.

I might add, that an article in OrSen today seems to confirm what I have been saying, that there is more to the FLE even after the mountain and PFH open.

Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foretold. :cool:
As always, link?
 

Tim_4

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Disney executives say keeping travelers within their parks and hotels — and thus away from Potter and Puck — is one of the driving strategies behind MyMagic+.

"We have known for a really long time that getting our visitors to Walt Disney World to make decisions about where they spend their time before they leave home is a powerful driver of visits per guest," Disney Co. Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo told analysts earlier this month.

"When they get into the Orlando market and their time isn't yet planned," he continued, "they can be subject to everything you see down there, which is a lot of in-city marketing for all the many products that people have put there to basically bleed off the feed that we fundamentally motivate."
I've been saying this forever.

Disney's strategy: Get people to spend their entire vacation at WDW.
Universal and SeaWorld's strategy: Poach a day or two off of a family's WDW vacation.

We can argue all day long about MyMagic+ from a guest perspective, but it really is freaking brilliant from a pure profit-motive standpoint.

@jt04 I'm not sure what you're talking about with the Fantasyland comment.
 

Uncle Lupe

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Here you go! :D

dinoriders1.jpg

I had forgot all about those, I had a few small ones in my youth. I see a mash-up of Dino and Space Ranger Spin.
 

Tim_4

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What did you reply?

"The parts of Epcot that were build since the Epcotalypse of the late nineties look date and stale, whereas the remnants of EPCOT look timeless and fresh"? :)
All I had "experienced" was Flower and Garden kiosks, so that was all it asked me about. They were brandy new.
 

jt04

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I've been saying this forever.

Disney's strategy: Get people to spend their entire vacation at WDW.
Universal and SeaWorld's strategy: Poach a day or two off of a family's WDW vacation.

We can argue all day long about MyMagic+ from a guest perspective, but it really is freaking brilliant from a pure profit-motive standpoint.

@jt04 I'm not sure what you're talking about with the Fantasyland comment.

Soon you will. This was an easy prediction.

BTW, I do not think MyMagic+ will do all they hope. Transformers will be a blockbuster success as will the Arctic attraction (I hope). And then comes Universal's theme park equivalent of "The Avengers" in 2014 with Potter 2.0. If Universal, Sea World, LEGOLAND and others team up and market themselves as one, then WDW has an equal in the market.

And that is when the real fun begins.
 

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