LaL removal!!!!

Pumbas Nakasak

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Bratstarman said:
I actually agree with you - the area is hard to navigate and feels claustrophobic, especially at night. That is because there is no straight path to the exits when you come under SSE. What makes it worse is that you can't even see the exits with the stone monoliths in the way.

You are forced to navigate around the tombstones, and maybe that is why they annoy me so much.

With the wand and the tombstones the area reminds me of an aging actress who has been given one too many facelifts. In its younger days the entrance was beautiful in its elegant simplicity. Now the individual parts might look good, but there is no overall coherence.

The entrance has become the theme park equivalent of Jocelyn Wildenstein.
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Surely a Disney expert could navigate their way out the park with their eyes closed.

I find the illuminated SSE a veritable visual extravaganza, the acute angles of the tiles juxtaposed against the simple majestic line of the orb, especially dramatic at dusk when silhouetted by a threatening sky. The glistening park title calling out to guests while the wand distributes ample amounts of Disney magic.
Pretentious ? Moi?
 
mousermerf

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Well, small update.

I broke the news to the LaL crew, apparently no one told them their workplace was destined for demolition. According to them, the rocks themselves wont go anywhere until 2020.
 
EPCOT_Man

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Look closely at the first page. It says for the removal of Leave a Legacy Icon from beneath SSE.

This may mean more than just the removal of the kiosk. Who knows what "Icon" could mean.

Edit: Here's one line of the exact wording:

2. General Description of Improvement(s):

Remove the Leave a legacy Icon from the base of Spaceship Earth.
 
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mousermerf said:
Well, small update.

I broke the news to the LaL crew, apparently no one told them their workplace was destined for demolition. According to them, the rocks themselves wont go anywhere until 2020.
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According to them? lol if they didn't even know the stations were slated to be removed who are they to say how long the tombstones will stay?
 
Figment571

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I've always found those stones to be brooding and unfriendly to the eyes and general effect of coming into that park.

It's not optimistic and bright like the original vision of the park. It depress me when I go by them. I don't remember the old entrance much but I know it was better. Let us hope we are starting to see better days.
 
jmvd20

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Champion said:
On the pdf, it shows the two areas that are marked for removal.
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Page 2 is the legal description of the property and survey markings for the 2 parcels of land that are designated as plots for Leave a Legacy. I still find no mention that the sales area is to be removed. Notices such as these are always vague and the way that they are worded can mean a number of things. I'm not saying that the sales are is or isn't going to be removed, just that concluding it will be from this document may be premature.
 
mousermerf

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The POB on these documents surrounds where the work is going to occur. If no work was to be done on the sales area, then it wouldn't be Parcel 1.
 
jmvd20

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mousermerf said:
The POB on these documents surrounds where the work is going to occur. If no work was to be done on the sales area, then it wouldn't be Parcel 1.
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Unless the legal description of Leave a Legacy contains 2 seperate parcels of land. Happens all the time on documents where I am but maybe Florida is different.

Perhaps the Pal Mickey devices will be re-located to that area. There are actually a number of things it could mean other than the complete removal of the sales area and kiosk. The document and description is vague - that is all I am syaing. What exactly is the Leave a Legacy Icon? That is all the document specifically lists as being removed.

I'm just going to be skeptical on this until you post pictures of the areas with no more LaL stuff.
 
mousermerf

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They don't group things on the documents. They make little squares to define the area of work. There is no pre-determined area for any document. They just pull up a map of the area and put a box on it.

If you were familiar with any of the hundreds of other documents Disney files you'd know they they don't put boxes on anything randomly.

Edit: Btw, the map itself is labeled "Leave a Legacy Merchandise Removal"
 
jmvd20

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mousermerf said:
They don't group things on the documents. They make little squares to define the area of work. There is no pre-determined area for any document. They just pull up a map of the area and put a box on it.

If you were familiar with any of the hundreds of other documents Disney files you'd know they they don't put boxes on anything randomly.

Edit: Btw, the map itself is labeled "Leave a Legacy Merchandise Removal"
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I have looked at numerous documents that they file on the comptroller site. They all have the same theme - they are vague.

Parcel number one could be marked for a number of reasons other than the complete removal of the sales area. Based upon all of the other documents on that site I would expect that the sales area would have been listed in the work description if it was to be completely removed.

There are a number of possibilities why parcel one is listed. For example - the conduits that supply power to the kiosk and screens to be removed could originate from this area. If that were the case it would have to be listed on the description as the wiring would need to be removed. I am sure that the screen your picture shows is in some way connected to the main sales area so that is yet another option. Perhaps the Pal Mickey devices will be re-located to this area?

Who really knows? After all what exactly is the Leave a Legacy Icon? That is the only thing specifically listed as being removed. I'm not saying that anyone is wrong because I have no idea what exactly it means myself. Just pointing out that this document could involve much more, or less work than someone expects.
 
JML42691

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mitros said:
Uhh, there's nothing on that link about Lol or anything about Disney for that matter.:confused:
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That entire link is about LaL and Disney. Maybe there is a problem with your computer or something because everthing mentioned in that link is Disney-related.
 
degunter

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Lal

I had or paid for 6 tiles done of me and my family between October 1999 and December 1999. We were told at the time, the "Sculpture", along with our images would be there for 20 years. So to get technical, it should remain until 20 years from when they started selling them, which I believe was in September of 1999.

However, I have no problem with them relocating it anywhere they choose.... just as long as Disney sends me a refund check before doing so, because I paid for it to be exactly where it is for 20 years.

There was also suppose to be a Legacy Website for each tile, and that never became operational. I remember emailing Disney for months and they never got the bugs worked out and finally abandoned the websites.

You can still see what remains of the website here:

http://disney.go.com/millenniumlegacy/
 
mousermerf

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degunter said:
However, I have no problem with them relocating it anywhere they choose.... just as long as Disney sends me a refund check before doing so, because I paid for it to be exactly where it is for 20 years.
http://disney.go.com/millenniumlegacy/
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Ya know, the funny thing is, if they just refunded all the money paid for the tiles it probably wouldn't cost them very much. Many of the tiles are from literal freebies they gave to CMs over the years and lots are from inclusion in a package for free.

Relatively few people actually paid for LaL. Add to that the possible tax write off, and I think those rocks could go the way of the dodo.
 
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mousermerf said:
Ya know, the funny thing is, if they just refunded all the money paid for the tiles it probably wouldn't cost them very much. Many of the tiles are from literal freebies they gave to CMs over the years and lots are from inclusion in a package for free.

Relatively few people actually paid for LaL. Add to that the possible tax write off, and I think those rocks could go the way of the dodo.
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Yea if Disney really wanted to get rid of them there are several ways it could be done.

I personally think they should move the pictures to another location at Epcot where they can still be enjoyed by guests who paid for them and then remove those ugly tombstone rocks from the enterance.
 

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