Just Saw Incredibles....Why not Pixar anymore?

HennieBogan1966

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Again, I submit that the 2 together are much stronger, than they are as competitors. With Pixars talent and Disneys' ability to distribute product, it's got to be about something more than raw numbers.

Any takers on that thought?
 

Legacy

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HennieBogan1966 said:
Again, I submit that the 2 together are much stronger, than they are as competitors. With Pixars talent and Disneys' ability to distribute product, it's got to be about something more than raw numbers.

Any takers on that thought?
But it's not like Disney is the only company in the world who has a good distribution and merchandising machine. Pixar is the one with the all the cards on this deal. They have the methods and the resources to create classic after classic, with or without Disney. Disney is the one who let them go, and they will be the ones to pay for that. Personally, I want Pixar to team up with Sony. At least the video games would be a great commercial property.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
HennieBogan1966 said:
Again, I submit that the 2 together are much stronger, than they are as competitors. With Pixars talent and Disneys' ability to distribute product, it's got to be about something more than raw numbers.

Any takers on that thought?


Agree totally, just think it sad that a company that built its reputation on high quality animation is currently so off the pace.
 

ToTBellHop

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Actually, Pixar is having trouble finding new distributors--that's the reason they don't have one yet--no one is exactly jumping to get Pixar on board right now, largely because Steve Jobs is both hard to work with and wants a contract that will largely benefit Pixar and not the distribution company--who would want a relationship like that? Pixar's future could depend largely on Chicken Little. If this Disney-produced computer animation feature ends up being stellar (and I haven't seen enough of it to determine whether or not it will), that could badly damage Pixar. That would leave the major animation powerhouses more than able to make their own computer animatio films (and keep all profits)--Disney would be good, Universal is more than happy with Dreamworks (interesting that they often copy Pixar...A Bug's Life-Antz, Finding Nemo-A Shark's Tale, and Pixar has a movie in the works about a rat called Ratatouille, while Dreamworks is also working on a movie about a rat--plots are of course different, but there are curious similarities), and Fox movies like Ice Age have been successful. I'm not sure Pixar could survive on its own under those conditions--how big is the market for 3D animation? I'm fairly certain that even though Pixar is amazing, people will favor the Disney name if Disney can put out good 3D features.

As for the other stuff in this thread, I tend to side w/ Speck, but that's just me...I have seen many a user get attacked for posting in the wrong forum, so why should it suddenly be a problem here?
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
ISTCNavigator57 said:
As for the other stuff in this thread, I tend to side w/ Speck, but that's just me...I have seen many a user get attacked for posting in the wrong forum, so why should it suddenly be a problem here?

Some people seem to derive pleasure from pouncing on posters who make the slightest transgression in forum policy, usually inflicting more vitriol than the situation deserves. If I see such things I comment, after all its not as if we are debating life n death issues.

Perhaps tolerance will be learned with age .
 

speck76

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Pumbas Nakasak said:
Some people seem to derive pleasure from pouncing on posters who make the slightest transgression in forum policy, usually inflicting more vitriol than the situation deserves. If I see such things I comment, after all its not as if we are debating life n death issues.

Perhaps tolerance will be learned with age .


Hmmm......my original comment was nothing more than that, a comment.

Perhaps I will be more tolerant as I approach my 30's, I just hope I don't become some self-righteous elitist.......that would be a disaster.....
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
speck76 said:
Hmmm......my original comment was nothing more than that, a comment.

Perhaps I will be more tolerant as I approach my 30's, I just hope I don't become some self-righteous elitist.......that would be a disaster.....


Self righteous elitist... mmm don’t think Id worry too much about that if I were you, petulant commentator however............
 

speck76

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Pumbas Nakasak said:
Self righteous elitist... mmm don’t think Id worry too much about that if I were you, petulant commentator however............

Oh, oobee doo
I wanna be like you
I wanna walk like you
Talk like you, too
:rolleyes:
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
speck76 said:
Oh, oobee doo
I wanna be like you
I wanna walk like you
Talk like you, too
:rolleyes:


Well judging by the avatar your half way there, now had you understood irony and liked the odd beer................. :drevil: But the biggest stumbling block is my trousers don’t cover the orifice I talk from. :eek:
 

Sharon L

New Member
speck76 said:
There is a forum for Movie discussion.....this one is for park discussion.
Since you have called out someone for posting in the wrong forum, I want to point out that you are using this forum incorrectly also. I don't see your posts having anything to do with the parks. You could have sent a private message rather than raging a verbal war on this thread.
 

ClemsonTigger

Naturally Grumpy
As ISTC said while on thread topic, Pixar in fact is having difficulty finding another partner. Jobs is as usual full of himself and most major players are hessitant to get involved.

With the Disney deal, Disney IMO did the right thing in walking away. Jobs was being rediculous in demanding everything. He wanted all rights to characters from the existing movies as well as full control of future films and characters. Disney probably would have gone with giving them rights to future characters...although Pixar probably couldn't market them with anywhere near the success.

Its just the case of two talented but stubborn people who are willing to sacrifice very good profits just to stick it to the other and possibly get all the profits. Kind of like the off topic discussion in this thread. :(
 

speck76

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Sharon L said:
Since you have called out someone for posting in the wrong forum, I want to point out that you are using this forum incorrectly also. I don't see your posts having anything to do with the parks. You could have sent a private message rather than raging a verbal war on this thread.

Thanks for the insight, I certainly appreciate it. Without your comment, I possibly would have continue this dicussion, although Hennie has made it obvious that he does not like my comments, as he has asked that I don't share my views on this thread. Regardless, your thoughts have been noted.
 

wannab@dis

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First off, Speck was correct - this is a park forum and not movies. His comment was just that... a comment. So back off and leave it alone.

Second, you are wrong Hennie... I'm not sure where you get your information, but Pixar only wanted a distribution contract. Therefore, there would be no merchandising for Disney. It doesn't matter whether Disney has the ability to create, manufacture and distribute the merchandise, if they don't have access to the characters by contract, then there will be no merchandising money.
 

pinkrose

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I myself didn't see anything wrong with what Speck posted. He was just pointing out that fact that this section is for parks. I know that tone can be misread on a forum... perhaps that's the case here. I don't think he should be attacked for it. :wave:
 

wannab@dis

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Pumbas Nakasak said:
Ooooooooooooohhhhhhh key board hard man. :dazzle:
Is this the new policy, conform with US or get cut???
what?

us who?

There was absolutely no reason to attack Speck for his comment. There was a good reason for it. If you post in the correct place, you will probably get more replies from others interested in the same topic. Simple logic -- for most.
 

imagineer boy

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wannab@dis said:
what?

us who?

There was absolutely no reason to attack Speck for his comment. There was a good reason for it. If you post in the correct place, you will probably get more replies from others interested in the same topic. Simple logic -- for most.

yay! And the argument is ended. Now want some marshmellows?
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
Okay, everybody needs to stop with this. If somebody has something to post that actually deals with the topic at hand then have at. However, a war of words isn't helpful or productive for anybody. If were are going to have an argument, confine it to PMs and let this topic stay on topic.

Please.
 

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