Just got to wdw..what's up with all the scooter's

[21stamps]

Not everyone who is overweight is overweight because they are lazy, there are a many different reasons someone could be overweight that have nothing to do with laziness.

Which would probably not fall under the "overweight/obese only" category.

The problem is, according to the ADA, a company cannot ask someone to prove their disability or judge a person's disability. So they have to either make something like a scooter available to everyone or no one.

This topic is done to death on this site and all Disney sites. There's really no reason to discuss it as there is nothing to be gained.

You're right. I didn't think that comment would spark a debate on who legitimately needs one, why they need one, and that I'm lucky that I don't. I thought I put enough in there about what I was talking about, but maybe some of my words are showing up invisible.

Exactly , my Dad used to be the worst complaining about the people abusing the scooters then all the sudden he has a metal rod in his back and due to a freak accident lost his leg, now all the sudden he's one of those scooter people.

Again, not at all what I was talking about, which was pretty clear. I think sometimes people only read what they want to read, not what's in front of them.

I'm tapping out. Have fun

 

[carolinadisneydad]

(((((((((((((. I've been meaning to look into options just to be prepared - wheelchair, scooter, etc. I would feel awful trying to drag him around the parks in pain. We have no need to cut lines or anything like that.

As it is, the plan is to take it slow, stop at every country at F&W LOL, and avoid marathon walks like Epcot to MGM (take the boat!) etc.

Otherwise I'm going to need a flag to put on the back of the wheelchair which reads: "back surgery" to head off the judgmental people lol.

Hopefully the slow pace is sufficient![/QUOTE])))))))))))))))))))))

I have had multiple back surgeries and I think your husband might be better served if you find a way to make him take all the stress off his back periodically. He might be resistant at first but if he could lay down for short periods during the day he will be better for it. With most back problems sitting is one of the worst positions to be in and wheelchairs typically offer little in the way of back support. He should be able to walk longer than stand in one place as walking uses multiple muscle groups intermittently. Standing in place or sitting will fatigue the postural muscles and put more stress on his back. The other issue to remember is that much back pain is not immediate like other injuries. The back nerves gets irritated and become inflamed which causes pain but that inflammation is not immediate. so rest often and don't push it , especially on the first couple of days until you see how he is tolerating it. Lastly, beware alcoholic amounts sufficient to dull his awareness of his pain and discomfort levels because alcohol will allow him to move in ways he may not be ready for and he may pay the price later. Otherwise, have fun and I hope his back heals well

 

[LongLiveTheKing]

I don't think it can be. Normally this type of thing would be self regulating...Can't walk around the parks? Then you simply didn't go to the parks. Now, if you can't walk around the parks, you get a scooter. Unless Disney restricts scooter use, which there is literally no chance of, this will continue. The parks weren't designed to accommodate as many vehicles(strollers, scooters, wheelchairs) as they are currently subjected to though, and it does negatively impact the experience for many. What can be done? Nothing. What should be done? Mileage may vary,

Well, there are at least two things that could technically help since there are enough scooters causing injuries.

1. Get better brake systems for the scooters.

2. Do some sort of motion detector thing to automatically brake when too close to something. Also maybe lower the max speed when surrounded.

Obviously with these suggestions, you get into a "well that's supporting bubble wrapping a care bear society" or "that's wasting money" debate, but there are issues that unarguably need to be addressed, because any person running over my foot with a scooter would not hear the end of it, nor should they. These suggestions might not be the right avenue, but something needs to be done and change at the end of the day because scooter injuries are not acceptable to the random people they affect.

 

[unkadug]

Well, there are at least two things that could technically help since there are enough scooters causing injuries.

1. Get better brake systems for the scooters.

2. Do some sort of motion detector thing to automatically brake when too close to something. Also maybe lower the max speed when surrounded.

Obviously with these suggestions, you get into a "well that's supporting bubble wrapping a care bear society" or "that's wasting money" debate, but there are issues that unarguably need to be addressed, because any person running over my foot with a scooter would not hear the end of it, nor should they. These suggestions might not be the right avenue, but something needs to be done and change at the end of the day because scooter injuries are not acceptable to the random people they affect.

I think the scooter accidents are being over emphasized and as such overly reacted to on this thread.

I would imagine that most people that bump into others with a scooter would be so apologetic as to diffuse the situation immediately.

 

[LongLiveTheKing]

Maybe the little girl was just getting the scooter for mom or dad or grandma or grandpa. The exit to Dinosaur is a good distance from the entrance, my Dad was unable to make the walk back, and since my mother and I both have scooter driving abilities that suck, my daughter went and got it for him. Again don't jump to conclusions.

From the post you're responding to:

"The parents did not even apologize and said that I got in her way."

You do not need to bend over backwards for people who are unarguably causing harm with scooters. His foot got ran over and the parents blamed him. It doesn't matter if that kid is a cancer patient.

 

[LongLiveTheKing]

Since "your" so critical of others...

Please cite the scientific studies you used to come to this conclusion.

"You scooter" is not grammatically correct."You lap" is not grammatically correct."You lap" is not grammatically correct."Get to cut line" is not grammatically correct.

What does it cost to rent a scooter? I assume wdw is making big bucks because otherwise it makes no sense. That is a question and should end with a question mark.

Aaaaaahhhh!

To make matters worse my room request was

Uh, sorry, professor. I thought we were submitting essays tomorrow.

(That is a joke. No one cares.)

 

[LongLiveTheKing]

I have been run over twice, broke my foot both times once because somene was desperate to get in front of me in line. Its a little girl, she is just a little girl,not being careless just a mere child, and both times with a foot that was broken, I went on and enjoyed my trip and kept walking, so don't even try to go there with me.

Just because you didn't complain about being screwed over by other people doesn't mean you get to say other people can't. He has every right to be angry.

This thread would be better off brainstorming suggestions on how to prevent the scooter injuries instead of talking about whether or not someone has a right to a scooter. A cultural change to get people that don't need scooters to not rent them is not going to happen so there's no point in talking about it.

 

[MissingDisney]

Oh ok. You're not going to give a simple answer and chose to reply to my earlier post on a subject you have no interest in but only came into the thread to complain about. Noted.

No complaints at all in this thread from me!

 

[The Mom]

I think this topic has been discussed enough, multiple times. Unless you have something new to contribute, please just let it go. Thanks.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

(((((((((((((. I've been meaning to look into options just to be prepared - wheelchair, scooter, etc. I would feel awful trying to drag him around the parks in pain. We have no need to cut lines or anything like that.

As it is, the plan is to take it slow, stop at every country at F&W LOL, and avoid marathon walks like Epcot to MGM (take the boat!) etc.

Otherwise I'm going to need a flag to put on the back of the wheelchair which reads: "back surgery" to head off the judgmental people lol.

Hopefully the slow pace is sufficient!

)))))))))))))))))))))

I have had multiple back surgeries and I think your husband might be better served if you find a way to make him take all the stress off his back periodically. He might be resistant at first but if he could lay down for short periods during the day he will be better for it. With most back problems sitting is one of the worst positions to be in and wheelchairs typically offer little in the way of back support. He should be able to walk longer than stand in one place as walking uses multiple muscle groups intermittently. Standing in place or sitting will fatigue the postural muscles and put more stress on his back. The other issue to remember is that much back pain is not immediate like other injuries. The back nerves gets irritated and become inflamed which causes pain but that inflammation is not immediate. so rest often and don't push it , especially on the first couple of days until you see how he is tolerating it. Lastly, beware alcoholic amounts sufficient to dull his awareness of his pain and discomfort levels because alcohol will allow him to move in ways he may not be ready for and he may pay the price later. Otherwise, have fun and I hope his back heals well[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Sound advice.

 

[SorcererMC]

I think this topic has been discussed enough, multiple times. Unless you have something new to contribute, please just let it go. Thanks.

In that case, please close the thread lest it be continually trolled.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

In that case, please close the thread lest it be continually trolled.

 

[Hakunamatata]

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

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Is that one of those cheap chinese ones ?

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I just got to wdw...it's been a long 10 year wait... one thing is bugging me after only 2 days...

First, I am all for truly handicapped people getting a break...but to be politically incorrect....being fat is a lifestyle choice 99 percent of the time...not a handicap.

Loading you scooter with your families food and drinks in a cooler plopped on you lap or in a basket and scooting onto the bus is disgracefull to the real handicapped and simply downright rude. These people consume 4 seats on the bus between the scooter and the seat they sometimes jump into. They slow the loading and unloading by 5 minutes...and they get to cut line.

What does it cost to rent a scooter? I assume wdw is making big bucks because otherwise it makes no sense. Can anyone get one of these...maybe we all should! Aaaaaahhhh!

To make matters worse my room request was no where near where I wanted to be at OKW.....i have a hell of a walk everywhere I go...does anyone know if these ' diet challenged ' folks get precedence for having rooms near the main area?

Don't get me wrong...elderly or truly handicapped have all my sympathies but uncle Joe with 4 drinks and a cooler scooting onto the bus delaying my trip and taking other folks seats...while wearing a Fitbit no less .....well it's just disgracefull.

I won't even mention the way they drive and honk their little horns in the park..I guess the deserve to scoot around everyone and move at a quicker pace....what is going on the world!!! Is it me.....

Forty years ago WDW was full of smokers. You just had to put up with it.

Back then if you suggested that people died younger, that they smelled badly, and tha third parties had to inhale those fumes too you'd be treated to such retorts as 'my auntil smoved and lived until 96', 'smokers don't smell, people who don't shower do', and ''it's nowhere near as bad as what comes out of your car's exhaust pipe'. It was a smoke-acceptance society, the way American (not the rest of the world) is now a fat acceptance society.

There is a rather ironic link between the two. All those super slim 1970's Americans? Unnaturally thin from smoking. They quit, and ended up so fat they now ride scooters.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

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Want want want!! I need this on my next trip.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

Wonder if you could get an upcharge for one of these ?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Is that one of those cheap chinese ones ?

Want want want!! I need this on my next trip.

If it plays "Let it Go" when you hit someone then it's most definitely a must have.

 

[POLY LOVER]

I just got to wdw...it's been a long 10 year wait... one thing is bugging me after only 2 days...

First, I am all for truly handicapped people getting a break...but to be politically incorrect....being fat is a lifestyle choice 99 percent of the time...not a handicap.

Loading you scooter with your families food and drinks in a cooler plopped on you lap or in a basket and scooting onto the bus is disgracefull to the real handicapped and simply downright rude. These people consume 4 seats on the bus between the scooter and the seat they sometimes jump into. They slow the loading and unloading by 5 minutes...and they get to cut line.

What does it cost to rent a scooter? I assume wdw is making big bucks because otherwise it makes no sense. Can anyone get one of these...maybe we all should! Aaaaaahhhh!

To make matters worse my room request was no where near where I wanted to be at OKW.....i have a hell of a walk everywhere I go...does anyone know if these ' diet challenged ' folks get precedence for having rooms near the main area?

Don't get me wrong...elderly or truly handicapped have all my sympathies but uncle Joe with 4 drinks and a cooler scooting onto the bus delaying my trip and taking other folks seats...while wearing a Fitbit no less .....well it's just disgracefull.

I won't even mention the way they drive and honk their little horns in the park..I guess the deserve to scoot around everyone and move at a quicker pace....what is going on the world!!! Is it me.....

Someone very famous once said, Don't judge lest you be judged. I think it's pretty good advice.

 

[mf1972]

after reading most of the comments here, , I just wanted to add I've never seen any scooter accidents or reckless drivers. I'll consider myself lucky.
getting this in before the lockdown.