Just got back (some observations)

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Hey, folks, I just returned from a few days down at the World...here are a few tidbits that stuck with me and which I thought some of you would find interesting.

*Walking through the World of Disney store on Thursday night, I came across a plain white cart that had been placed in the middle of the jewelry (or "Villains") room and piled with pins and the like. Written clearly on the side with black marker were the words "Villains Room: Do Not Remove." No hint of an effort to theme the cart could be seen other than a Mickey sticker slapped onto the side.

*The souvenir photographers have cranked up the aggressiveness of their pitches quite a bit since I was last there. Walking through the parks, me and Lauren were continually met with "Stop here for a picture, please!" or "Hey, let me get a picture of you two!" rather than "Hi, would you care for a commemorative photo?" This was the case at Epcot, the Studios, and AK. Walking down Hollywood Boulevard, we were met with at least three "hard sell" attempts in about 90 seconds (including one fellow who said that getting our picture taken would "fix all the world's problems" and "end the war and everything").

*Kilimanjaro Safaris seems to have been taken over by vultures. This may have been the case for a while, but I've never noticed them. The safari driver was clearly ignoring them while he pointed out the "official" safari animals, but we honestly saw more vultures on the savannah than anything else. The whole thing left me curious as to how Disney plans to combat them, and made me think about the alleged attempt at mass vulture extermination on Discovery Island years back.

*I picked up the "Where Magic Lives" DVD. It's a neat litle DVD, around an hour in length, focusing on each of the 4 parks from the viewpoint of Walt's ideas and how they relate to the individual parks. The MK segment is basically narrated by Walt, with his descriptions of all the ideas that went into Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom. The Epcot segment also relates Walt's original vision for the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow to the park that ended up coming from the idea. The Studios and AK segments are shorter, each also featuring footage of Walt related to the themes of the two parks, trying to show how his vision is met in the newer parks. There's some very beautiful footage of all 4 parks, particularly MK and Epcot, which have the longest chunks of the disc dedicated to them.

That's all I got. :cool:
 

Merlin

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Originally posted by Wilt Dasney
*The souvenir photographers have cranked up the aggressiveness of their pitches quite a bit since I was last there. Walking through the parks, me and Lauren were continually met with "Stop here for a picture, please!" or "Hey, let me get a picture of you two!" rather than "Hi, would you care for a commemorative photo?" This was the case at Epcot, the Studios, and AK. Walking down Hollywood Boulevard, we were met with at least three "hard sell" attempts in about 90 seconds (including one fellow who said that getting our picture taken would "fix all the world's problems" and "end the war and everything").

Those photographers annoy the hell out of me. They are so obnoxious and annoying. I deal with that BS enough in the "real" world (what with telemarketers and the like). I hate dealing with it at Disney too. And that comment about the war is offensive. I would have complained. I wish they'd get rid of them.
 

hoppypooh

Member
We got the same pitch from a photographer that you did ("it will end the war.") Considering we're both soldiers recently back from the Middle East, we were not too happy :fork: We complained though, and wound up getting our picture done for free.
 

1disneydood

Active Member
It wouldn't be soooo bad if WDW gave the photographers photography lessons. We tried it a few times but every time the picture was lousy. Castle out of focus (ever hear of a macro shot?), tree of life blocked by other trees, and who the heck wants a pic in front of the ugly hat blocking the nice chineese theatre? I saw a photographer at Epcot who was taking pics from a place where the geosphere was blocked by all the crap they decided to pile in front of it.

Thanks for the trip report BTW. We were there this weekend and noticed the same things.
 

se8472

Well-Known Member
as I recall, the photographers and ballon peeps arn't even WDW CM. I am sure disney still gets a way over what happens but just know they are not 100% part of the company.
 

anabella

Member
Talking about vultures, they are out of control, they go to eat the trash of the houses at the comunnities that are there at the formosa gardens blvrd zone, it is not a nice panorama to watch out of your windows and see that "birds" messing with the garbage so they must do something with them!
 

WDWFanatic

Active Member
Since it was the first time my fiancee (sp) and I went together i made a point to have a pic taken one in each park by them and they were all horrible except for the animal kingdom. they even took a pic with my camera when i asked.
 

Wckd Queen

New Member
Originally posted by tigsmom
As for the photographers...we always have a picture taken each trip. Yes they can be obnoxious, but I just smile say "no thank you" and keep on walking. Must be the NY'er in me because they really don't bother me, they are just doing their jobs.

Oh, you are much nicer than me. I just ignore them and keep walking :lol:

I have to say though, the few that we did like that have come out nicely and are framed in my mothers living room. It was the family portrait we did inside the camera shop at MK that came out poorly...they had the kids sized larger than the adults! My 15 yr old cousin had to tell the woman how to fix it :lol:
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Wckd Queen
Oh, you are much nicer than me. I just ignore them and keep walking :lol:

Hehe. When Erik and I were at the parks on Friday it was the same way. We went to AK, then MGM, then Epcot and when they tried to step in and take a picture, Erik gave them a firm "NO!" and they left us alone. :lol:
 

pilka214

Active Member
normally i will notice the photographers, and walk as far away from them as possible. but most of the times i get a pic from them it is ok. once we met a guy at mgm, pretending he was selling watches, then he asked if we would like a pic of us. since my entire family was there, we said yes handed him like 5 cameras and he took the pictures. but he didnt use the zoom:( . but i have also noticed that cms in universal and busch gardens are nicer and also use how to use a camera. because when i get pics there they are great.
 

yellowrocket

Active Member
I categorize the photographers at WDW (and other theme parks, for that matter) in the group of people that I don't make eye contact with...

++ Carnival/Fair Game Attendants
++ Chinese Food Attendants in the Mall
++ People who Fly Southwest Airlines who haven't already taken a seat
++ Street Photographers at Theme Parks

I kinda laughed at the whole photography thing at first. It was neat, and fun. I basically just racked it up there with ride photography, which I am fond of... although, not on every attraction. But this random photographers need to go.

In all seriousness, earlier this month, when I was at Typhoon Lagoon, there was a guy making pictures, handing out wrist bands with numbers on them (so people could retrieve the photos) in the friggin' Lazy River. I thought that was crazy until, I saw another photographer actually standing in the flume of the "family raft" water slide handing out redemption wrist bands... grabbing the boats as they floated by to hand out the bands.

At least the lady photographer who was standing in the middle of the water slide was wearing a Typhoon Lagoon polo shirt (albeit, a wet polo shirt). The guy who was taking photographs in the "Lazy River" had a huge bandaid covering up what was obviously a very large tattoo on his upper arm. I've got nothing against people with tattoos, but if Disney policy says all tattoos must be covered, let's give the guy a job somewhere else. That just looks gross!!

That wasn't all... the even had random photographers making pictures at DownTown Disney in front of the World of Disney store and RainForrest cafe... hopefully all of this was just some sort of test. If those people aren't employed by Disney, at least the company should take some action. It ruins the magic.


Now they shoot whatever they see
Wet or dry in color photography.
Candid shots of families at play
Graphic layovers
And splashes in the bay
Hey! Smile! Look into the camera.
Now, take this ticket, please!
And with ev'ry dozen shots we take
We're makin' memories

Makin' memories
Makin' memories
Forcin' pictures is makin' memories
Takin' little pieces of my time
Makin' some quarters and makin' some dimes.

Hey! Great vacations and Disney creations,
We used to hold near and dear.
But, because they're makin' memories
Happy days have disappeared!
 

MichRX7

Well-Known Member
I'm a bit surprised at the "help end the war" comment. I think the next person to hear it from this forum should ask them how the photo will do that. Are the proceeds going to some "Stop the War" fund that we don't know about?
 

lolokittie

New Member
Normally we can ignore or walk by the photographers, but this weekend they were overly annoying stepping in front of us and that one guy making the comment about the war was just odd.
 

imamouse

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by se8472
as I recall, the photographers and ballon peeps arn't even WDW CM. I am sure disney still gets a way over what happens but just know they are not 100% part of the company.

You're correct - the photographers are employees of Kodak. The one at Epcot who actually man handled me and my mom into position told us so. He was quite agressive, holding onto our hands so that we couldn't escape, and laughed it off saying, "I can have 2 women because I'm Hispanic." The nerve!
 

TravisMT81

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by imamouse
You're correct - the photographers are employees of Kodak. The one at Epcot who actually man handled me and my mom into position told us so. He was quite agressive, holding onto our hands so that we couldn't escape, and laughed it off saying, "I can have 2 women because I'm Hispanic." The nerve!

that is just crazy, everyone needs to make a complaint!!!!
 

Punkss

New Member
I must say this has annoyed and slightly upset me. I hate this kind of approach from anybody selling, in my book it has always been i go somewhere to buy something not they come to me.

I hate that they are trying to make people have photos when they already have their own cameras. I know of another place where this happens, near the Eiffel Tower in Paris. The men trying to draw caricatures and want you to sit down. They stand directly in front of you, appeal to your girlfriend (easier persuadeable?), and finally start drawing as you are walking along and then demand money. Needless to say i did not pay and the ensuing argument nearly turned ugly as he and his were adamant that we would pay for a drawing that was poor quality and i had not requested!

What i hate even more is the fact the hard sell is happening in the last place i would ever imagine or want it to happen. I sincerely hope that this does intrude on what will be a special moment for me and girlf when we enter MK for the first time! That would upset me and make me very angry.

By all means have proper Kodak (if that is their employer) stands that show what they will do, hand out leaflets and maybe have uniforms.

Is there a place where i could complain to? And also anyone who feels upset or annoyed by this.

EDIT: Found! Use this to contact Guest Service about your bad experiences or general unhappness at hard sell photographers...

wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com
 

barnum42

New Member
Originally posted by Punkss
What i hate even more is the fact the hard sell is happening in the last place i would ever imagine or want it to happen. I sincerely hope that this does intrude on what will be a special moment for me and girlf when we enter MK for the first time! That would upset me and make me very angry.
They must get their training from the same company that lets the charity muggers loose on the public over here in the UK :animwink:
 

Nansafan

Active Member
Regarding the water park photographers, I don't remember if it was Typhoon or Blizzard Beach. We saw one of the wristbands floating in the water and since we had one of the water cameras with us, we decided that we would take a pic of the next photographer we found. After riding the family tube ride, we had our chance. We snapped the pic of the photographer and handed him the wrist band. He got a chuckle out of it and we thought it was great. We went to look at our pic later in the day and he was at the picture claim place, remembered us and told the other people what we had done.
 

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