Just Back from the World...Anyone ever experience this??

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
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I'm really sorry about those groups. You just know with one mere chaperone with each group there would have been a difference in their behavior. I know the Pop Warner tournament is a huge draw for WDW, but these same issues seem to happen on an annual basis. You would think by now that WDW would make a chaperone mandatory for these kids when they're not playing football.
 

Mystic

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I'm really sorry about those groups. You just know with one mere chaperone with each group there would have been a difference in their behavior. I know the Pop Warner tournament is a huge draw for WDW, but these same issues seem to happen on an annual basis. You would think by now that WDW would make a chaperone mandatory for these kids when they're not playing football.

Having 1 or 2 chaperones with the group doesn't necessarily improve the behaviour. Half the time the chaperones are just as bad as the kids. The only time we've seen the kids well behaved is when the chaperone to kid ratio is high. When there is one chaperone to every 2-3 kids.

We witnessed a few Brazilian tour groups where the chaperones were actually encouraging the rowdy behaviour.
 

PhilharMagician

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I feel for you. I have been in many lines with these kids and it is no fun. One time was the Space queue and the jumping and screaming was insane. Another time was in the ToT queue and they were climbing on the walls of the flowere beds and jumping off and cheereing. A CM said multiples times that they had to get down, but just ignored her and laughed. We then ended up in the preshow with them and they started screaming as soon as the lights dimmed. The CM in the room stearnly yelled at them and they stopped. Then the CM walked up to me and my DD who was quite scared and gaves us 2 FP's to ride again.

Next year we are planning on being there during POP and I may need some meds!!!
 

Lisalyn

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We just returned from our trip on dec. 1st andI will tell you the only day that we experiance the marching band camps was on the our last day Nov. 30th, these kids are from the states so there is no excuse of being from a different culture.

Yes, they were very loud, running & if there was a group of 10 of them they would all get on their cell phones calling there friends & the next thing we know here comes another group of 10 of them getting in line with their friends.

While standing in queue for SM we would watch them being distructive of the building, they were peeling paint off the walls and there was a curtain of sorts hung up over the queue window and we watched them rip open so they could look through to the other side.

And these kids had no adult supervision. What has this become schools come dump the kids in WDW and tell them to check back in 12 hours.

Hey Shelley! Welcome back. Hope you had as much fun on your trip as Lindsay and I did! Can you believe that rain the day before Thanksgiving - yikes!!! lol

We didn't have any band campers..but we experienced some bouts with it appeared cheer leading squads..however, they were very nice for the most part and very well behaved. There were chaperones though so that might have been the difference. And maybe not. They seemed like sweet kids enamored by WDW.
 

Graham9

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I have just got back from WDW myself today and I came across this a few days ago at Hollywood Studios. There was an entire crowd of girls cheering and running about amongst everyone and making a right noise.

This didn't really bother me that much - just a group of people having fun. BUT I have followed this thread and find thier antics, and those of WDW, a bit disturbing. I am all for people having a good time, but there is a line between having fun and wrecking someone else's good time. I find WDW's attitude to this central to the problem where they tolerate and possibly "look the other way" to this behavoiur, regardless of the consequences to other people, simply because there is a lot of them. Personally, I think this a bad reflection on what is acceptable.

It seems to me that if one person decides to misbehave, WDW's CM's will quickly come down on them. If there are a group of people, then it suddenly becomes "acceptable" and "not thier problem" and other people should just walk away and ignore it.

I have seen this double-standard attitude when some guests have had to tolerate drunken behaviour at a resort and WDW's attitude of "If you don't like it, go somewhere else".

Personally, someone at WDW should come down hard on ANYONE who misbehaves, regardless how many there are.
 

erstwo

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Now I feel like I have really, really messed up!

On MY recommendation, I booked my ENTIRE extended family for December 4 - 11, 2010! We are staying at Pop (whew!) but please tell me our time in the parks won't be miserable! My sister has been saving for 2 years for this trip!
 

captain marvel1

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may i make a suggestion quit moaning and complaining. take action contact these people they will revoke all squads if they cause mischivous.

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lilclerk

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We definitely saw the kids around the parks, but I didn't notice anything crazy going on. The only thing that irked me was a group of kids crushing plastic soda bottles outside of Le Cellier. As we were walking up I thought they were breaking glass bottles, but they were plastic and one of the kids stopped the others before they got too out of hand.
Maybe we were just in the right places at the right times. :shrug:
 

Tidbit

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I too have had problems with these crazy kids & I just looked at my three children and said thank-you for not acting like them & the CM said the same & gave us a ton of FP's for whatever ride we wanted. She said they have been a nightmare all week!

It was during our 2nd visit to WDW & our 1st time staying at a Value resort--Sports! Now that I have this handy little web link I will know when NOT to go WDW.



 

lighteningqueen

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We are here now and I have to say there are tons of rude people all over and not just the kids.. Some of them were in the Hall of Presidents and sat on the first row and waved there arms in the air threw empty water bottles up high and there was a chaperone with the 7 of those girls. Just horrible but I think the rudest thing we are seeing is the hords of people on there cell phone texting as they walk and not paying a bit of attention to what is before them or after them. They care nothing about Disney just their phones. When we are in these long long lines this week they are the hold ups trying to look at there cell calls. They get in the theaters and are told to shut them off and I will be darned they don't think its for them. There lights shine in our face on the dark rides etc. Most of them are older adults. If they want to text then stay off the rides and pay big bucks to text at Disney instead on enjoying the trip. And the strollers and evcs are getting the rudest. Massive contraptions this year with stuff hanging all off them and the backpacks that people have on their backs with enough stuff to take a week long trip with. Why do they carry these thngs around all day and all they do is sling them into people behind them. they forget they are at least 18-24" thick . I could go on and on. But mostly this is the crowdest week ever and m thinking of not coming back again this time of year. to many masses..
 

Mystic

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And the strollers and evcs are getting the rudest.

Have you ever spent any time in an ECV and tried to navigate through a crowded park? Well I have. I just spent my week's vacation using an ECV because I have a cast on my foot. It's not always the fault of the ECV driver. I can tell you from experience how frustrating it is to be trying to drive through the park carefully so as not to hit anyone only to have someone purposely walk not even an inch in front of you LOOKING DIRECTLY AT YOU WHILE THEY DO IT!!!!! Not to mention trying to stay out of the trolley tracks on Main Street as you are making your way out of the park at closing while the CMs are pushing you to one side of Main Street but you can't get over there because no one will give you any room to get clear of the tracks so you get your front wheel stuck all the while the CMs are still yelling at you to move to the other side of the street and the photopass CMs are telling you to get out of their way because you are in their shot.

Before you start calling ECV users rude, spend a few days in their shoes.

Oh and before you say it, using an ECV does NOT get you on the rides any faster. You wait just as long, if not longer and if you are one of those people who are using one because you are overweight, that does not mean you don't have to wait in line. The only time an ECV rider gets to use the handicapped entrance is when they HAVE A HANDICAP!
 

xtina72

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I was there 12/1-12/7 and those kids were a NIGHTMARE!!!! The parents/chaperon's were NO BETTER! The parents were encouraging these bits of crap to walk past peoples rooms at 7:30am screaming "HERE WE GO WILDCATS HERE WE GO!!!" meanwhile the parents are banging maracas!

Then in the evening they take their chairs out of the rooms, sit them right in front of your window and do each others hair for the next day, it was HORRENDOUS!

They should be ashamed of themselves! But the sad thing is, they aren't.
 

JenShelby

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We had similar situations with the Brazilian tour groups for our July trip. We have stayed at the ASMovies and Music 2x before and have never had a problem. This time was a nightmare. Screaming and running all hours of the night. I went to the front desk and was told that I could find one of there chaperones and ask them to keep the noise level down.???? This was not my responsibility to go knocking on doors to find a adult. The tour groups overtook the pools and would also prop their doors open to their room and sit outside and have a party. We would walk by and the rooms were a mess-clothes and food thrown everywhere. I felt really sorry for the cleaning lady. My 9 year old daughters mouth hung open when she saw their room! There were many other problems with ASM during our stay but the biggest was the rude tour groups. I emailed Disney after our return and they responded to my email with a phone call and a letter. When I emailed Disney I put exact dates, confirmation numbers, front desk personnel names, etc. I told them I was very disappointed in the hotel and the management. I did not ask for anything. My response letter from Disney included 4 (amount in our party) 3 day hopper passes (that expire Dec. 31st 2030) and 2 complimentary nights at any Disney Resort. The letter was very apologetic. Needless to say I was very happy with Disney's response.
 

Mystic

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Why ,does requirement for an ECV make rude behaviour permissible?

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that people in ECVs get frustrated and eventually get tired of people knowingly cutting them off so yes, they will get rude at times, but no more rude than the people who look right at them as they walk right in front of the ECV, or refuse to let the ECV through so they don't get caught in the trolley tracks.
 

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