With the way this virus is causing shutdowns, layoffs, stay at home, no travel. when and if restrictions are lifted, and hopefully the world comes back to some kind of normal, Just a possibility maybe, will we see a drop in prices at WDW or even the entire USA, maybe setting back all the inflation that has put the pricing as high as things are today. The reason WDW kept raising prices in the past was because of the large crowds that just kept showing up, the prices and costs would go up, people still came, prices went up some more, didn't slow the crowds down, until the virus hit, maybe now with fewer crowds going, Just a possibility maybe, the prices and will drop back down to 1990 levels or lower.
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Just a possibility maybe
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Pepper's Ghost
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It's a possibility, but would take time to evolve. If crowds start really slow and persist due to a likely recession, they may start with sizeable coupons or package deals. If that doesn't help, you might see a claw back of prices. It will take time though. If large crowds are instant, then no way.
winstongator
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If anything, they’ll keep prices the same and run specials - buy 4 days get a 5th free, or 15 months for the price of 12. So when things actually normalize, they don’t have to re-raise from the lowered level.
If they waive the parking fee. I'm there -- Oh God that's sad. But true.
Sirwalterraleigh
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The economic forecasters are speculating “worldwide depression”...with a “D” at this point.
I’m gonna theorize what Disney can and can’t do like everyone else over the next couple of months...but flattening the curve is the only thing that gets us to even that point right now
I’m gonna theorize what Disney can and can’t do like everyone else over the next couple of months...but flattening the curve is the only thing that gets us to even that point right now
WORLDwide comes next.
Pepper's Ghost
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TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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That may be right. But, if there is no vaccine for 12-18 months, isn't the only way to flatten the curve for everyone to isolate for 12-18 months until that vaccine is available? Because a very realistic scenario is we all isolate for 60 days, 90 days, 120 days, then we all come together in various scenarios without the vaccine and the numbers start to spike again. The longer the isolation is, the worse the depression is. How do we balance that?
Sirwalterraleigh
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We don’t...
But I was trying to not get “that heavy”...it frightens the Disney fans
Parking fees frighten Disney fans. Best way I can explain it is----parking fees x10.
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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We don’t...
But I was trying to not get “that heavy”...it frightens the Disney fans
So you're okay with 12-18 months of isolation? Just wondering.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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No...but the magnitude and choices that may come - especially to we “tough” Americans - will create panic if we get REALLY honest.
Do you know how many people here believe they still are going 4/1?? How many think their “Easter trip” is still on? Or how many think that one day - a month or two from now they’re gonna fling the gates open and well all be packed outside Casey’s looking at fireworks?
I bet those numbers are “staggering” still.
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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There's definitely going to have to be alterations. The reality is people are going to be cautious for a long time. People will be without jobs or significantly reduced hours/tips. Travel is not going to be top of mind for many people. Airlines will suffer.
I do think mid-May is when we will see everything start to come back to life and an easing of what we're currently seeing today. Especially because people have to go back to work, to school, etc. I think I read the DOE for Michigan wasn't counting the 'distance learning' towards their days of service for the school year, which probably means school into summer for many. I have no idea what happens if we decide to not go back to school at all for the remainder of the school year. Does my kid re-do fourth grade? I'm sure many have those same questions.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I don’t disagree with that at all. None of it.
I just get grief for being “too heavy” a lot and I’m staying out of a lot of the fracas this week.
I saw the operational impact of what the 2001 incident did to wdw - i lived it and worked in middle management at that time - so I’m well aware the general consensus on boards and that there is not a “flip” to switch....lots of naivety...
The other thing you’ll see is that those that claim “luxury” and have been scoffing for 5-10 years to lower crowds...to get the “paupers” away...are equally clueless in the opposite end. It’s a mass market destination..:it doesn’t work with 50% attendance no matter what They would be willing to pay. The place won’t open and won’t staff until they get close to a full ride.
I’m hoping 5/15 return to some normalcy as well...that will only happen if we contain the spread and the public does what they’re told to pull together.
As far as schools go...there is no way in hell an American school child is going back to school. Not happening this year. They’ll have to waive the tests and just move on...”lost year” to be made up over time through curriculum adjustments. The playing field is equal...so that eliminates the main obstacle.
Michigan will adjust as well.
Maybe Whitmer will make it her final act before she is put on the ticket for VP?
Animaniac93-98
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They will not lower prices. Disney's ego is too precious to do such a thing.
They may offer discounts, but like many Disney discounts, they may not be a great value.
They may offer discounts, but like many Disney discounts, they may not be a great value.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Disney...I have no doubt...understands already that their playbook is not gonna be the same.
They are good with data and well connected. Always have been. In the back alleys of business they already know the game has changed
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives
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I don’t disagree with that at all. None of it.
I just get grief for being “too heavy” a lot and I’m staying out of a lot of the fracas this week.
I saw the operational impact of what the 2001 incident did to wdw - i lived it and worked in middle management at that time - so I’m well aware the general consensus on boards and that there is not a “flip” to switch....lots of naivety...
The other thing you’ll see is that those that claim “luxury” and have been scoffing for 5-10 years to lower crowds...to get the “paupers” away...are equally clueless in the opposite end. It’s a mass market destination..:it doesn’t work with 50% attendance no matter what They would be willing to pay. The place won’t open and won’t staff until they get close to a full ride.
I’m hoping 5/15 return to some normalcy as well...that will only happen if we contain the spread and the public does what they’re told to pull together.
As far as schools go...there is no way in hell an American school child is going back to school. Not happening this year. They’ll have to waive the tests and just move on...”lost year” to be made up over time through curriculum adjustments. The playing field is equal...so that eliminates the main obstacle.
Michigan will adjust as well.
Maybe Whitmer will make it her final act before she is put on the ticket for VP?
You say they won't open and staff until they get close to a full ride, but in 2001 they were open the next day. I imagine staffing was significantly lower and experiences were toned back, but I can't imagine Disney not opening up the parks until they feel like the economy has 'recovered'. Same with the recession in '08. I think we're going to see them re-open and there will probably be lighter crowds for a while until everyone starts to get back on their feet.
Schools, I think that's where we're heading ultimately (though, if you're opening up Disney, you're opening up schools. Especially here in Texas), but there's a series of complications there that has to be addressed and my biggest frustration is that no one is addressing them. Instead, they're closing stuff and then leaving people in the dark for weeks. I feel like things are more done by gut feeling instead of any data or facts that say if X happens, then plan Y will go into effect.
I don’t disagree with that at all. None of it.
I just get grief for being “too heavy” a lot and I’m staying out of a lot of the fracas this week.
I saw the operational impact of what the 2001 incident did to wdw - i lived it and worked in middle management at that time - so I’m well aware the general consensus on boards and that there is not a “flip” to switch....lots of naivety...
The other thing you’ll see is that those that claim “luxury” and have been scoffing for 5-10 years to lower crowds...to get the “paupers” away...are equally clueless in the opposite end. It’s a mass market destination..:it doesn’t work with 50% attendance no matter what They would be willing to pay. The place won’t open and won’t staff until they get close to a full ride.
I’m hoping 5/15 return to some normalcy as well...that will only happen if we contain the spread and the public does what they’re told to pull together.
As far as schools go...there is no way in hell an American school child is going back to school. Not happening this year. They’ll have to waive the tests and just move on...”lost year” to be made up over time through curriculum adjustments. The playing field is equal...so that eliminates the main obstacle.
Michigan will adjust as well.
Maybe Whitmer will make it her final act before she is put on the ticket for VP?
Most School Districts have found solutions in online platforms to do the best they can. Teachers are used to it, and it shows the world how bogus many standardized testing situations and beuracracy really are, if one wants a positive out of it.