Just a possibility maybe

[noodles]

Millions are about to be unemployed if the shutdown continues for very long at all. Life savings are being wiped out in the stock market. This is unprecedented.
Over 9,000 new US cases today alone. The surge is here.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I'm thinking July 4th weekend. You think longer?

Amity WDW will be open for the 4th of July crowds. Shark Virus or no shark virus .

 

[Kobe!!]

The price will never come down.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm thinking July 4th weekend. You think longer?

If things go well...yes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Millions are about to be unemployed if the shutdown continues for very long at all. Life savings are being wiped out in the stock market. This is unprecedented.
Over 9,000 new US cases today alone. The surge is here.

The surge is here...

...but the learning curve on what this means to the economy, travel, and Disney is apparently just starting around these parts

 

[seascape]

Yes, but yesterday about 1,500 new cases in the US with a total of about 35,000. Of course, this could be due to the new testing restrictions and not having enough tests. China looks to be coming out of it as they had less than 100 new cases and 15 deaths in the last two days.

Of course China has no more proven cases. They stopped testing. Don't believe any news coming from there.

 

[marni1971]

Of course China has no more proven cases. They stopped testing. Don't believe any news coming from there.

Would you trust Germany?

 

[eliza61nyc]

Maybe...but Disney is shut down for a LONG time...

That’s not apparent to most of the fans...it will be soon.

lol, I do think it's apparent but you can't blame a guy or gal for wishing. My bff and her hubby had a huge European cruise planned for 2 weeks ago in celebration of their 60th bdays. planned it for over a year and up until a day before departure was trying to stay "positive".

I think a better description is that most fans are trying not to be disappointed.

I just canceled my May trip and the only real reason I did that was because it was a short getaway and I had not made any plane reservations yet. but I'm still holding onto hope for my August family trip.

 

[HkPro]

I have had my trip for the last week in June booked for almost a year. Touring plan just sent me an updated crowd calendar, and the crowd levels have jumped from 6-7 a day to 8-10! So it looks like a lot of people are either moving their spring trips to late June, or booking now because they are going stir crazy in their homes and hope for a big vacation in early summer. If crowd levels are still increasing up to 10's, I don't think they will drop prices.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

but there's a series of complications there that has to be addressed and my biggest frustration is that no one is addressing them. Instead, they're closing stuff and then leaving people in the dark for weeks. I feel like things are more done by gut feeling instead of any data or facts that say if X happens, then plan Y will go into effect.

Simple.

Nobody knows exactly how this will play out.

You can rail all you want, but that isn't going to change anything.

Right now, it is obvious that people got sick in New Orleans because they attended Mardi Gras. It just wouldn't be a good look for WDW if anyone went around saying (a trip to ) WDW killed their grandmother, spouse, or child.

I daresay, some places are doing things by gut, while other places are indeed using data and facts to guide their decisions, at least the best data and facts we have.

We simply don't yet know exactly how quickly this epidemic is going to pass. We simply don't know exactly how long it will take to develop either community immunity or a vaccine.

Alas, if you want more information, at the risk of stating the obvious, a WDW forum might not be the best place to look for it. Getting frustrated here is kind of like yelling to the wind.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

Simple.

Nobody knows exactly how this will play out.

You can rail all you want, but that isn't going to change anything.

Right now, it is obvious that people got sick in New Orleans because they attended Mardi Gras. It just wouldn't be a good look for WDW if anyone went around saying (a trip to ) WDW killed their grandmother, spouse, or child.

I daresay, some places are doing things by gut, while other places are indeed using data and facts to guide their decisions, at least the best data and facts we have.

We simply don't yet know exactly how quickly this epidemic is going to pass. We simply don't know exactly how long it will take to develop either community immunity or a vaccine.

You want to close things? That's fine. What is the criteria for closing? What is the criteria for opening up? What are you going to do during the shutdown for those impacted (such as those who can't work, schools, etc.)

There are a series of questions that are NOT being answered by ANYONE. In a time where transaparency is vital, most of the leaders are being opaque at best, declaring one thing today and declaring something else the next day with no rationale or logic as to how they got to those answers.

For the record, I'm someone who has stated they should shut things down from the middle of March for 8 weeks. Any shorter than that and you put too many people at risk. Any longer than that and you risk the economy during months where small businesses make the bulk, if not the entirety, of their revenue for the year. You have to have a balance.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

You want to close things? That's fine. What is the criteria for closing? What is the criteria for opening up? What are you going to do during the shutdown for those impacted (such as those who can't work, schools, etc.)

There are a series of questions that are NOT being answered by ANYONE. In a time where transaparency is vital, most of the leaders are being opaque at best, declaring one thing today and declaring something else the next day with no rationale or logic as to how they got to those answers.

For the record, I'm someone who has stated they should shut things down from the middle of March for 8 weeks. Any shorter than that and you put too many people at risk. Any longer than that and you risk the economy during months where small businesses make the bulk, if not the entirety, of their revenue for the year. You have to have a balance.

Asking on a WDW forum is not an effective way to get information about your locality, and isn't going to give you any answers.

The place to find information is from your own state and county/city leadership. If you are unhappy with your state and local leadership, contact them.

Personally, my state and local leaders have done a great job giving regular updates about what they are doing and why.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Senior citizens or borderline seniors here will think the world is doomed and expect the worst. Us younglings are aware of that but just don't really focus on it.

I think prices will remain the same BUT they will limit the number of tickets sales or guests entering the park to avoid overcrowding. That's the best way for them to still charge the same and still adhere to social distancing. I also feel more people will avoid parks for at least till next year for the 50th, hopefully it will somehow go back to normal.

Us "Senior Citizens" perhaps are more pessimistic because we have lived longer, experienced more things, know history and are painfully aware that "younglings" are all rainbows and unicorns. No experience other then constantly playing electronic games with endings that are always positive. You can play war games and get killed, yet walk away with not even a scratch. Real war has real blood. Real life requires real outcomes.

Want some other particularly alarming information... that is exactly the way we were when we were younglings. We were ideal, thought we had all the answers, vowed never to be as bad as the previous generations and then turned into their exact clone when we aged. Some have said that the definition of a conservative is a liberal that was kicked in the butt by life.

 

[Minthorne]

I heard from a Bus a driver if the parks don’t open soon they will begin offering virtual vacations. They send you oculus headsets and a smell machine. You experience all attractions virtually. Included is a box of Disney treats.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I heard from a Bus a driver if the parks don’t open soon they will begin offering virtual vacations. They send you oculus headsets and a smell machine. You experience all attractions virtually. Included is a box of Disney treats.

That’s not a whole lot different from what universal does today...

Just have some one twist/shake the seats and you’ve got the full thing



On a more applicable/sobering note. Japan is loosening up its restrictions and the numbers are not good.

Tokyo isn’t gonna reopen anytime soon. That’s a better indicator of what will happen with Disney’s domestic parks than China.

I’m not sure if Euro even reopens? Won’t they want a bailout from France and/or the EU to do it?

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

That’s not a whole lot different from what universal does today...

Just have some one twist/shake the seats and you’ve got the full thing



On a more applicable/sobering note. Japan is loosening up its restrictions and the numbers are not good.

Tokyo isn’t gonna reopen anytime soon. That’s a better indicator of what will happen with Disney’s domestic parks than China.

I’m not sure if Euro even reopens? Won’t they want a bailout from France and/or the EU to do it?

Isn't that the reality though? If we lock everyone down, inevitably the number of cases will go down. Once you start loosening up the restrictions, the cases are going to go up. That's going to happen no matter what we do until there is a vaccine.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Us "Senior Citizens perhaps are more pessimistic because we have lived longer, experienced more things, know history and are painfully aware that "younglings" are all rainbows and unicorns. No experience other then constantly playing electronic games with endings that are always positive. You can play war games and get killed, yet walk away with not even a scratch. Real war has real blood. Real life requires real outcomes.

Want some other particularly alarming information... that is exactly the way we were when we were younglings. We were ideal, thought we had all the answers, vowed never to be as bad as the previous generations and then turned into their exact clone when we aged. Some have said that the definition of a conservative is a liberal that was kicked in the butt by life.

Add to that...”younglings” are being infected/hospitalized at increasing rates. The initial reports of immunity were wrong.

The biggest problem with the social media generation is they have convinced themselves (not all...but an alarming high number) that wisdom doesn’t require time and experience. It’s more than the raw data that creates wisdom...it’s observing/experiencing/feeling how humans interact with the data, events, scenarios.

There’s no “short cut” for that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Isn't that the reality though? If we lock everyone down, inevitably the number of cases will go down. Once you start loosening up the restrictions, the cases are going to go up. That's going to happen no matter what we do until there is a vaccine.

I agree...but the unknown is what type of scenarios are we willing to tolerate?

As far as Disney goes...I just know them. They cannot permit themselves to have a corona outbreak at California adventure or Yacht Club or AMC Disney springs...

They just cannot cross that line. Their concept requires that they are a “safe haven” from real life. They protected people in hurricanes...they provided comfort in recessions...they were a beacon to look at post 9/11...the Japanese wept at they re-entered after a tsunami and Fukushima...

The “bad” stuff can’t happen there. They know that.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

I agree...but the unknown is what type of scenarios are we willing to tolerate?

As far as Disney goes...I just know them. They cannot permit themselves to have a corona outbreak at California adventure or Yacht Club or AMC Disney springs...

They just cannot cross that line. Their concept requires that they are a “safe haven” from real life. They protected people in hurricanes...they provided comfort in recessions...they were a beacon to look at post 9/11...the Japanese wept at they re-entered after a tsunami and Fukushima...

The “bad” stuff can’t happen there. They know that.

It's impossible to avoid though. If they're not willing to take that risk then they wouldn't open until post-vaccine. I just can't see that happening.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's impossible to avoid though. If they're not willing to take that risk then they wouldn't open until post-vaccine. I just can't see that happening.

I don’t see anyway they can do it...just like I can’t see cruiseships or airlines rolling out.

On second thought - Disney May need a giveaway bailout.

It’s one thing for a Marriott to risk it...a lot of Disney product is emotional. They’ve always been unique...and rewarded for it.