That is the point of what it is. To talk it out and understand why it might be counter-productive in a work environment and to grow and learn and be a better person. I feel like you are trying not to get the point. You're very stubborn. I feel bad for the partner you share a residence with if you even have one.
Jesus.Yes, I even forgot all about Star Wars Land when I tallied Disneyland's human animatronics. But then we got into that really interesting discussion about racial prejudice and such a few minutes later, and I never went back to amend it.
I plan to update that list to include Star Wars Land, plus flesh out the Fantasyland dark rides more than just listing the specific country their original author was from.
I still think that's a really interesting tally to make; the number of human animatronics in Disneyland and their gender and race/ethnicity compared to the demographic makeup of the USA in the 21st century. Especially when some Disneyland fans feel that they are "given crumbs" by the Walt Disney Company due to a lack of racial representation in amusement park rides.
Stay tuned for an amended and updated list!
That seems like a boring conversation and training session. You sit there in silence while I drone on with HR approved talking points, and then at the end of the 2 hours you get to answer politely by asking some PC pre-approved question like "How can I continue being an ally and supportive of the LGBTQ+ Up With People Community?" Why the heck wouldn't you have a right to speak up? You are an employee there and just as equal as any other employee regardless of their race/ethnicity/religion/gender/sexual orientation, etc.
That type of workplace "discussion" just seems so stilted and fake and all rather meaningless. Like a bad Twitter feed.
I appreciate that you would want to be polite and respectful of a community you don't experience personally. But at some point, we just all need to stop being so darn scripted and fake about this stuff and just treat each other as adults and talk it out. A "Listening Session" sounds boring and mildly oppressive, like a more polite version of the Struggle Sessions the Communists did to political opponents during China's 1960's pogroms. An actual adult "Discussion" sounds much more productive to me.
As for my personal approach to race relations? I just try to follow the Golden Rule, and it's served me very, very well for decades. I can look back on a life well lived with pride and very fun memories because I (almost always) followed the Golden Rule.
In your HR training sessions, do you ever just break it down to simple basics like that?... Treat others as you would want to be treated?
It’s you, obviously.
I'm with you. Continuing to respond to him on this topic is just giving him more of a platform for his insular crap. There really does seem to be no hope, and no point.Jesus.
With that being said, I’m done putting my energy into this with you, TP. You really just don’t get it. I’ll let others have at it.
Good evening to you.
That's like saying Pat Riley is just a coach. That the Moana Lisa is just a painting. Saying the Jungle Cruise is just a ride is not giving it the respect it deserves .There are rides, (six flags, universal} then there ARE RIDES. I am not trying to dismiss any of your experiences. Even though you stated you dont care if the natives stay or not, my issue with you is you saying there is even a problem with them within the context of the ride and somehow turing that into crumbs that disney needs to have more experiences just for black people so they feel represented. I disagree with you on those points all day everyday. I cant argue wtih how you feel. but i can argue with the internal logic of your points on whether your argument is a solid argument or not.
We know what it is. I don’t have time for the childish games. I’m definitely done.
I’m simply repeating what many here who don’t like the changes have said. “It’s just an amusement park ride.” I didn’t say that, others did. You’ll see if you go back a few pages.
HEE-HEE!!!
Yes it is a theme park ride at the end of the day but its a beloved one that has withstood the test of time. unlike rocket rods. at the end of the day its not meant to be taken that seriously but meant to be fun. you drive by the natives in under 15 seconds and meant to put a smile on your face as you get the quick gag marc davis set up wonderfully and masterfully. It's not racist though. Not at all.
it was a play on words. i was hoping someone would get what i did. lol i love ya doc
But so what? It’s JUST a theme park ride. That’s what you guys have been saying, yet you’re mad about the changes and getting into it with strangers online about it. It’s quite ironic.
I am not mad at the changes I just strongly disagree with them. Will I still ride Jungle Cruise. Yes. Totally. Will I cringe every time I come across a new show scene that is inferior to the one it replaced and cringe like I do on Pirates now? Yes. I love the ride and see nothing wrong with it. I miss when they used to shoot at the Hippos. I will just miss what came before.
So it’s not just an amusement park ride then? I agree that it’s not and people should stop saying that, especially since they take time and energy to come online and express their disappointment about “just an amusement park ride.”
Sorry Raven. I know this is annoying to explain to people who clearly don’t get the implications of what they’re saying
Thank you. It absolutely is exhausting. The good news is there are plenty of non-black people both here and elsewhere who absolutely DO get it and understand. My graduate American lit course was centered around 19th and early 20th century African American lit, something I found out on the first day, and it was taught by a white woman. She studied African American history and literature for all three of her degrees. She spoke of the issues within the community very eloquently and was spot on about everything. I was very impressed. There are plenty of allies out there.
No it is. but its on the creme dela creme tier of theme park rides.
