Jungle Cruise Re-Imagining

[James Alucobond]

The dis of the glory days we all remember would never put a new aa on stage unless it was show ready

Whether or not management's decision to keep the ride open during the refurbishment was the right one is a separate issue from the hyperbolic insinuation that the ride is in shambles due to poor craftsmanship. Malfunctions happen whether or not the AA seemed perfectly ready before the attempted installation. Heck, it may have seemed fine this morning. That's the danger when you do things like this without multiple days of testing before the guest ever sees it. It does not mean the people designing the animatronics are more incompetent than before.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

All of these superficial changes and yet the most grievous issue still remains:


Skipper say what?! Come on Disney...the Skippers ARE the attraction. It'd be nice if we could understand them.

 

[lightningtap347]

That animatronic looks out of control wow!

 

[JoeCamel]

Whether or not management's decision to keep the ride open during the refurbishment was the right one is a separate issue from the hyperbolic insinuation that the ride is in shambles due to poor craftsmanship. Malfunctions happen whether or not the AA seemed perfectly ready before the attempted installation. Heck, it may have seemed fine this morning. That's the danger when you do things like this without multiple days of testing before the guest ever sees it. It does not mean the people designing the animatronics are more incompetent than before.

Why wouldn't it be fully tested and programmed before being put onstage? That is a decision that should have had a clear answer and there is no reason to put a NEW AA out before it works.

 

[James Alucobond]

Why wouldn't it be fully tested and programmed before being put onstage? That is a decision that should have had a clear answer and there is no reason to put a NEW AA out before it works.

Why is it impossible to fathom that there was a malfunction after or as a result of the installation? Kinks like this are expected and are why dry runs and soft openings normally exist.

 

[JoeCamel]

Why is it impossible to fathom that there was a malfunction after or as a result of the installation? Kinks like this are expected and are why dry runs and soft openings normally exist.

This is an AA they could run 24/7 on a bench not a new ride

 

[J4546]

how long before the drivers/announcers are replaced by a tv screen with rock guiding you on the tour?

 

[TikibirdLand]

I think it's time to say goodbye to Disney and enjoy some nice ice tea on your porch and then watch a few episodes of The Muppet Show. All you ever do is complain about everything.

Guess that's what I'm doing while I wait for live entertainment to return to the parks. No Trolley Show? No Train? NO TIKIBIRDLAND!

 

[Archie123]

Guess that's what I'm doing while I wait for live entertainment to return to the parks. No Trolley Show? No Train? NO TIKIBIRDLAND!

And that's totally fine. Why go to the parks at all if what Disney is currently offering isn't to your liking.

 

[Disone]

The dis of the glory days we all remember would never put a new aa on stage unless it was show ready

Your not wrong but at the same time... I remember Disneyland's Indiana jones having issues when it open in 1995, and I was there on opening day. Several effects were having issues, but the attraction remained open because there was a 3+ hour line winding its way through the park. But those were effects.... I don't seem to recall the animatronics having issues. There was a website in the 90's, something like WDWblues, that documented everything from the number of burnt out light bulbs on Main Street USA, to attractions show issues. I think it has always been a case of how severe the issue is vs closing the attraction, but TO YOUR Point, they do seem to be much more slacking on this now. Back in the day only a major effect would seem to shut down an attraction. One ghost not poping up from behing the stone.... okay keep going. One of the can can girls didn't kick properly... the show goes on. Today.... remove said can can girl indefinitely, leaving an obvious gap, and call it day! One time I was on the mansion, appearantly its a projector that puts the foot prints on the endless staircase because instead of footprints, it was projecting a small scrolling message..... "Light bulb as reached its intended life, please replace" I guess its 999 happy haunts and one expired light bulb.

 

[WEDfan9798]

I think Jungle Cruise will survive at least another 15-20 years. I do think the Enchanted Tiki Room is likely to be changed or eliminated entirely. Not just because of the stereotypes, but because the whole thing feels cheesy and dated. That's part of the charm of course, but I could see Tiki room being replaced with a modern IP (because that's how things work at Disney nowadays).

I'd be very devastated if that were to happen.

 

[WEDfan9798]

Anyone have any pictures of this? Curious to see what it looks like now and a Google Search isn't helping me.

They just painted over the words. For those wondering, Chinese laundries were staples of Western towns in the same vein as Saloons or Jails. I do believe in acknowledging the vital role of Chinese immigrants on the frontier, but hey it could be done differently or something. It's interesting to see Disney do this stuff. Sad to hear about the tikis and masks along the entrance.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They just painted over the words. For those wondering, Chinese laundries were staples of Western towns in the same vein as Saloons or Jails. I do believe in acknowledging the vital role of Chinese immigrants on the frontier, but hey it could be done differently or something. It's interesting to see Disney do this stuff. Sad to hear about the tikis and masks along the entrance.

It's worse than one can imagine. Short version...

1. Chinese immigrants, especially to the West Coast, came looking for the American dream and the gold rush.​

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2. Chinese immigrants were severely discriminated against and locked out of most jobs.​

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3. Chinese immigrants turned to running small family-owned businesses doing the work the White majority didn't want to do, e.g., sweating over boiling cauldrons and slinging wet, heavy laundry. IOW, a domestic service, which is often the lot of the immigrant. This is when the number of Chinese laundries exploded.​

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4. Once the White majority saw that laundries can be lucrative, they passed restrictive zoning laws forcing the Chinese out of their own laundry businesses they founded.​

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5. Like most of U.S.'s racist history, it was white-washed (forgive the double pun) into being just a thing that the Chinese have a knack for and they turned it into a thriving source of business for themselves.​

So, Chinese laundries represent what the Chinese were forced to turn to in the face of racism, and then it was taken away from them. Tho, many kept moving their businesses to wherever they could, such that Chinese laundries stayed around in big cities for over a century.

Long story...

The secret history of Chinese laundries

The origins of Chinese laundries in America are wreathed in racism and social exclusion.

meloukhia.net

 

[WEDfan9798]

It's worse than one can imagine. Short version...

1. Chinese immigrants, especially to the West Coast, came looking for the American dream and the gold rush.​

​

2. Chinese immigrants were severely discriminated against and locked out of most jobs.​

​

3. Chinese immigrants turned to running small family-owned businesses doing the work the White majority didn't want to do, e.g., sweating over boiling cauldrons and slinging wet, heavy laundry. IOW, a domestic service, which is often the lot of the immigrant. This is when the number of Chinese laundries exploded.​

​

4. Once the White majority saw that laundries can be lucrative, they passed restrictive zoning laws forcing the Chinese out of their own laundry businesses they founded.​

​

5. Like most of U.S.'s racist history, it was white-washed (forgive the double pun) into being just a thing that the Chinese have a knack for and they turned it into a thriving source of business for themselves.​

So, Chinese laundries represent what the Chinese were forced to turn to in the face of racism, and then it was taken away from them. Tho, many kept moving their businesses to wherever they could, such that Chinese laundries stayed around in big cities for over a century.

Long story...

The secret history of Chinese laundries

The origins of Chinese laundries in America are wreathed in racism and social exclusion.

meloukhia.net

Obviously, we know that Chinese immigrants were forced into operating such businesses and that eventually they were forced out. I am not denying that at all. I actually wrote about this topic before. I was pointing out why it's there, even as a passing reference. I am for acknowledging that the Chinese were involved with the West because they were, just like Blacks, Mexicans, etc. In fact, one must also remember that everything has an uglier history than expected. For example, consider the fact that Jews are typically seen as successful and involved with finance due to rules concerning commerce and lending where the Church reportedly prohibited Christians from participating in such financial practices.

 

[UNCgolf]

Obviously, we know that Chinese immigrants were forced into operating such businesses and that eventually they were forced out. I am not denying that at all. I actually wrote about this topic before. I was pointing out why it's there, even as a passing reference. I am for acknowledging that the Chinese were involved with the West because they were, just like Blacks, Mexicans, etc. In fact, one must also remember that everything has an uglier history than expected. For example, consider the fact that Jews are typically seen as successful and involved with finance due to rules concerning commerce and lending where the Church reportedly prohibited Christians from participating in such financial practices.

Usury is (was?) considered a sin in Christianity (and in Islam, for that matter), so charging any interest on a loan was a no no. Of course people eventually figured out ways around that (the Medici among the largest) but as you said, it opened doors for Jewish people to provide that service.

 

[DisneyDodo]

Usury is (was?) considered a sin in Christianity (and in Islam, for that matter), so charging any interest on a loan was a no no. Of course people eventually figured out ways around that (the Medici among the largest) but as you said, it opened doors for Jewish people to provide that service.

Usury is a sin in Judaism too, but there are some loopholes.

 

[UNCgolf]

Usury is a sin in Judaism too, but there are some loopholes.

I know -- I meant that they didn't have to deal with religious authorities who also had political power.

 

[wdwmagic]

Here is a look at the Trader Sam's Gift Shops scene with the new figures.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Here is a look at the Trader Sam's Gift Shops scene with the new figures.

Seems to me the only thing missing is a Disney princess AA standing next to the baby elephant waving farewell to the passing guests.

 

[JustInTime]

Seems to me the only thing missing is a Disney princess AA standing next to the baby elephant waving farewell to the passing guests.

The elephant is a nod to the one that has been at this very spot at the Disneyland version of the ride for years.