Jungle Cruise Altered After Recent Tragedy

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
On my last few visits some of the jungle skippers have gotten so bad you probably wouldn't understand what they are saying anyways. I hope it was just my bad luck by the past 4 times fell incredibly flat

It DOES help if ENGLISH is your first language, Humor depends on idiom and timing it would be like me attempting a joke in Mandarin for example instant FAIL because I lack insight into the idiom and timing sense of the language.
 

natatomic

Well-Known Member
Also, isn't there's section of Port Orleans resort called Alligator Bayou? If so, I wonder what they'll do about that, if anything.

And don't forget the alligator in Splash Mountain. And as mentioned, Peter Pan (technically a croc) and in the HM stretching room. Anything else? Any alligators at Animal Kingdom?

Not saying they should take any action here, but there are definitely reminders of the recent tragedy all over the place.

UF's mascot. The family won't ask for it to be changed but some unrelated attention-seeker will be offended on their behalf. (I say this somewhat jokingly, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at least someone tries it).

(This is not commentary on the Redskins controversy, btw, just America's overall knee-jerk reaction to anything that could "potentially" be offensive to a person).
 

Goofyernmost

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I don't think that people riding peter pan or HM are going to say "whoa look at that snapping crocodile." Yes it was an unfortunate situation but as with most events, life goes on and people just simply don't think about it.
On top of that, literally millions of people do not know about it and will never know about it. As tragic as it is for those of us that are always watching what Disney does, that is not the norm. We tend to think that because we know about it, everyone does. There is so much bloodshed and violence going on in the world today, but, this locally traumatic incident will not even get exposure in most of the country. Out of respect for those that are presently visiting WDW, there should be at least the ending of that particular joke on Jungle Cruise. I will be willing to bet that it will be back before too long though. When you come right down to it, as soon as the fresh wound heals over, it's almost a public service announcement. And no one can say it isn't true anymore. Perhaps the warning of alligators present in the waters of WDW would be a wise choice also.

I remember on a golf course in South Carolina years ago the score card had the statement "Do not attempt to retrieve your golf balls from the ponds". Around the ponds it said "Please don't feed the alligators... Leave your golf ball in there." The message was received!
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
We tend to think that because we know about it, everyone does. There is so much bloodshed and violence going on in the world today, but, this locally traumatic incident will not even get exposure in most of the country.
I'm not so sure about that. The story was reported on our local news, as well as other local news channels, and was a trending topic on Facebook. It seems knowledge of the incident is not localized to the Disney fan community.
 

Goofyernmost

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I'm not so sure about that. The story was reported on our local news, as well as other local news channels, and was a trending topic on Facebook. It seems knowledge of the incident is not localized to the Disney fan community.
I didn't mean that no one has heard about it, I am saying that it would not be on the radar of a lot of people that didn't have a more then casual interest in WDW. Especially if it is fresh on the heals of the shootings in the club.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I didn't mean that no one has heard about it, I am saying that it would not be on the radar of a lot of people that didn't have a more then casual interest in WDW. Especially if it is fresh on the heals of the shootings in the club.
Mmm...not so sure I agree with that either. Personally, at work, we talked about the alligator incident, but not anything else that happened. Trending on Facebook also means that people are talking about it. Not that I would say Disney should remove all mention of alligators from the park, but I'd say it's on people's radars.

Maybe after some time, it won't be as fresh in some people's memories. But I'd say for a while, people are going to be thinking about it, and people will remember it.
 

cheshiresmile

Active Member
I hope they don't change the painting in the HM or the Peter Pan scene. If anything, that will just make people keep thinking about the tragedy because they'll notice something is missing. Yes it's important to remember what happened so that it not happen again, but if Disney removes these things, then people will just talk about it even more and it'll backfire as they say how the company is trying to make us forget about it. Taking out the JC joke about alligators, though, I think is a good idea since the incident is so fresh in our minds.
I think it is different as well, on PP and HM they are part of the story or atmosphere. It's different that on JC where the point is to laugh at the joke.
 

Goofyernmost

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Mmm...not so sure I agree with that either. Personally, at work, we talked about the alligator incident, but not anything else that happened. Trending on Facebook also means that people are talking about it. Not that I would say Disney should remove all mention of alligators from the park, but I'd say it's on people's radars.

Maybe after some time, it won't be as fresh in some people's memories. But I'd say for a while, people are going to be thinking about it, and people will remember it.
OK, however, I am on Facebook and not only was it not trending on mine, it wasn't even mentioned. Of course, I don't subscribe to any Disney page on Facebook. I did hear about "Millie" from the old DickVanDyke show died of Cancer at age 87. Not a single word about alligators/Disney though. I have to agree on one point... people will not remember it after the initial shock has passed. Humans have a built in ability to conveniently forget unpleasant things. Sort of a defense mechanism.
 

HiYa Pal

Active Member
On my last few visits some of the jungle skippers have gotten so bad you probably wouldn't understand what they are saying anyways. I hope it was just my bad luck but the past 4 times fell incredibly flat


My most recent trip was with a lady skipper, and the last few ladies I had driving, had terrible timing, so I was setting up for disappointment, but when we got to the hippos and she reached for the gun but then turned to us and said "I know of one thing that will scare away any living creature" and she yells at the hippos "I LOVE YOU, IM READY FOR A COMMITMENT" the whole boat just lost it, it was definitely one of the best moments I've ever had on that ride!
 

**Stacy**

Active Member
isn't there an alligator screen in the nightly water parade? if I am remembering correctly they should probably pull that float out the parade. Though I have a feeling that anything(except fireworks) that attracts guests to the beaches will be discontinued for awhile.
 

cheezbat

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So lets be over sensitive now and remove the crocs from Jungle Cruise...and Peter Pan...and Splash Mountain...and from Animal Kingdom...and Ice Gator from Blizzard Beach and Laguna Gator from Typhoon Lagoon....and all gator and crocodile toys and plush.

What happened sucks, but lets not get carried away.
 

DancingPhoenix

Active Member
isn't there an alligator screen in the nightly water parade? if I am remembering correctly they should probably pull that float out the parade. Though I have a feeling that anything(except fireworks) that attracts guests to the beaches will be discontinued for awhile.

There is a sea dragon but I don't think an alligator.
 

TLtron

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While I think it's a good idea for them in the short term not to acknowledge the elephant (or crocodile) in the room, I hope this censorship won't be stay for the long term as news of this horrific event fades since that will only create another elephant in the room for future generations.
In response to these recent events, Walt Disney World today cut all jokes related to children and crocodiles from the Jungle Cruise attraction at the Magic Kingdom. Among the jokes, the attraction famously asked parents to “watch their children, or the crocodiles will."
Essentially, they're cutting out any jokes involving crocodiles and children. You know stuff like "Watch your kids or else the crocodiles will"
When does this go?
latest
I don't think that people riding peter pan or HM are going to say "whoa look at that snapping crocodile."
So lets be over sensitive now and remove the crocs from Jungle Cruise...and Peter Pan...
Ironic, since there has never been a fatality caused by a crocodile in the state of Florida, or the entire U.S. for that matter.

But I guess since we're on the subject of removing potentially offensive things that are related, but totally different...
After hearing of the Fla woman bitten by a pigmy rattlesnake recently, now costing her upwards of $200k in hospital bills...Disney may want to consider removing the large python from Jungle Cruise as well. Because, you know, snakes & such.
 
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WEDwaydatamover

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There is a gator holding an umbrella in It's a Small World. He seems nice enough tho.

There are gators carved into the Tiki Room totems as well.

Not to mention at the northern end of the WDW RR.
 

UKDisney Dave

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Whilst I agree that as the days go by many thousands of people will attend the parks and not have heard, or not remembered hearing about the incident, even I was surprised by how big the story has become.

In London yesterday, this story was front page above the fold on the paper with the biggest circulation in the capital, all whilst we are just 8 days away from an historic vote for the UK to leave the EU.
 

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