Jungle Cruise Altered After Recent Tragedy

[jrhwdw]

So no word on whether or not the crocodile has been removed from electric light parade? I feel like that's what most needs to be removed.

The bigger question is: Is the EWP Back?? Just a guess here but I'm thinking the EWP didn't go out the last 2 nights. Wonder what they did with it Tues night when this happened? It would have been already out on SSL, correct?

 

[Donaldfan1934]

You keep throwing around the word "censorship." There is no oppressive government preventing them from doing anything. On further reflection though, to have a singing and dancing alligator on stage in MK after a real one snatched a child, drowning him and would have eaten him if it weren't startled strikes me as bad taste and completely tone deaf. Removing it from the show at this moment was the right thing to do. Anything with a script should be up for review.

Now, if they start removing installed AAs, the HM portrait, and art/sculpture or rename Alligator Bayou then they have gone too far.

Although I strongly agree that the real step too far would be removing attraction elements, I would still consider what's happening to be overly cautious self-censorship. I can see your point on why they would temporarily remove Louis from show, but that is a result of how overly sensitive and pattern reading our society has become. Anyone who doesn't understand his his or other aligator/crocodile elements presence obviously doesn't get their purpose. Again, I understand the Jungle Cruise censorship because that made a direct reference to crocodiles eating children, but a cartoon is a cartoon and you shouldn't get offended by it just by just because of an awful coincidence.

 

[JohnD]

Although I strongly agree that the real step too far would be removing attraction elements, I would still consider what's happening to be overly cautious self-censorship. I can see your point on why they would temporarily remove Louis from show, but that is a result of how overly sensitive and pattern reading our society has become. Anyone who doesn't understand his his or other aligator/crocodile elements presence obviously doesn't get their purpose. Again, I understand the Jungle Cruise censorship because that made a direct reference to crocodiles eating children, but a cartoon is a cartoon and you shouldn't get offended by it just by just because of an awful coincidence.

Actually, I wasn't convinced until I saw your video of the singing and dancing alligator. And that solidified it for me. I thought to myself, "If they keep that in the show there would be hell to pay." They're already being criticized for lack of signage and accusations of looking the other way while guests feed the alligators from the bungalows (making the gators desensitized to humans -- see other thread). Having a singing/dancing alligator frolicking to a good time while a family grieves the death of their child from a real one just outside the park would be the height of tone deafness. Disney would deserve any and all ridicule. It has not nothing to do with being an overly sensitive society but basic decency after a horrible tragedy. It's a coincidence all right. One that can easily be avoided.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Actually, I wasn't convinced until I saw your video of the singing and dancing alligator. And that solidified it for me. I thought to myself, "If they keep that in the show there would be hell to pay." They're already being criticized for lack of signage and accusations of looking the other way while guests feed the alligators from the bungalows (making the gators desensitized to humans -- see other thread). Having a singing/dancing alligator frolicking to a good time while a family grieves the death of their child from a real one just outside the park would be the height of tone deafness. Disney would deserve any and all ridicule. It has not nothing to do with being an overly sensitive society but basic decency after a horrible tragedy. It's a coincidence all right. One that can easily be avoided.

The thing is, I don't disagree with you that some people will react negatively to that. What I'm saying is that the reaction would definitely be an overreaction. As far as percautions that should've been taken, we as a species unfortunatley don't take any extra credit percautions unless something bad actually ends up happening. I think this is simply because it's in our nature to avoid dangerous topics unless we're forced to. Hopefully, the gravity of recent incidents will push us in the right direction. When viewing the situation, however, it is clear that it is being viewed as an Act of God on both sides. Even the family themselves said that Disney did everything they could've given the circumstances. My end point is that while Disney should be applauded for trying to right the wrongs of this tragedy, our society should react to this rationally and not let it affect entertainment that's loosely connected and has been in preparation for months.

 

[bethymouse]

Also, isn't there's section of Port Orleans resort called Alligator Bayou? If so, I wonder what they'll do about that, if anything.

And don't forget the alligator in Splash Mountain. And as mentioned, Peter Pan (technically a croc) and in the HM stretching room. Anything else? Any alligators at Animal Kingdom?

Not saying they should take any action here, but there are definitely reminders of the recent tragedy all over the place.

They raise baby alligators in The Land exhibit. Will they stay or go?

 

[bethymouse]

Maybe silly jokes on the JC should be "modified", but anything other than more signs warning people of alligators near the water's edge, and to absolutely not feed the wildlife would be going too far IMHO. It is a terrible tragedy, brought on by nature's animals coexisting with mankind. Disney should try to focus on how to keep the gators at a minimum if possible working more closely with the Wildlife specialists in Florida. IMHO.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

They raise baby alligators in The Land exhibit. Will they stay or go?

To be honest, anything more than putting up more signs, relocating aligators, and overall protecting the Seven Seas Lagoon and Bay Lake is an overreaction. This should be treated as a safety issue and nothing more.

 

[EOD K9]

Hey Gang, I'm at work right now and haven't had the time to read through this thread, so I apologize if what I say has been said. I'm glad they are keeping the victim and his family in mind with regards to cutting the joke, however, when it comes to Peter Pan, Alligator Bayou, HM, etc, if they tried to be sensitive with every topic, I think the only ride we would have left is the People Mover.

 

[Electricsoup]

To be honest, anything more than putting up more signs, relocating aligators, and overall protecting the Seven Seas Lagoon and Bay Lake is an overreaction. This should be treated as a safety issue and nothing more.

Giving the World a few days break isn't a tragedy. Hopefully they will return in a few weeks.

 

[Bacon]

Inside the Magic weighs in: http://www./2016/06/walt-disney-wor...le-cruise-ride-and-posting-new-warning-signs/

So there on to us! "Many fans online are now speculating if we will see other cuts in attractions and shows featuring crocodiles like the Tick-Tock Crocodile in Peter Pan’s Flight and Louis the Alligator from The Princess and the Frog that is supposed to take the stage for the first time tomorrow in the new Magic Kingdom castle stage show – Mickey’s Friendship Faire."

 

[Bacon]

@Lucky your luck that disney doesn't ask you to change your profile pic

 

[Yensid1974]

I understand sensitivity in the moment but I wouldn't be surprised to see this ultimately return.

I would bet money it returns after a reasonable amount of time. It is not the first time a joke or jokes were put on hiatus to return at a later time.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Giving the World a few days break isn't a tragedy. Hopefully they will return in a few weeks.

Right. They obviously don't want even more bad press right now.

 

[Capsin4]

Obviously there's a death involved this time, but the joke was ok despite a young boy being attacked at Ft. Wilderness in the 80s. So it could come back. I don't care if it doesn't come back...it's very specific and it's probably the closest park attraction to the sit of the incident. It's decent and tasteful to get rid of it, but everything else mentioned on this thread would be an overreaction.

 

[Baltar]

There's a difference in a joke about kids directly with a crocodile and a scene like Capt Hook and the croc. I wish ppl would use common sense before falling down the hysteria path of "What will Disney do next??"

 

[Donaldfan1934]

There's a difference in a joke about kids directly with a crocodile and a scene like Capt Hook and the croc. I wish ppl would use common sense before falling down the hysteria path of "What will Disney do next??"

Right, no reason for long term worrying.