Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

[MisterPenguin]

I hope you guys like parabolic water arches.

Well, if they weren't parabolic, Eisntein and Newton have some 'splainin' to do.

 

[marni1971]

So I ask: what the heck actually is this "attraction"?

Not one of those.

To call it so would be a disservice to actual attractions.

 

[MinnieWaffles]

Oh use the mute button already, pixie-duster.

Can you really not think of a better argument then calling someone who you don't agree with names?

 

[LAM378]

See...my family talks about the jumping fountains more than the rides. It stuff like that, and our boys playing on RC at AS Movies, one of them being chosen first by Crush, being picked out by Jack Sparrow during the parade, etc. that build the lasting memories for us.

I agree, @ImperfectPixie.

Of course I’d rather have a full-scale Moana dark ride, but this doesn’t look like something to sniff at. It has the potential to be stunning, and something that will fascinate kids and adults.

I want rides and big attractions as much as the next person, but things like this do have their place in WDW, and make it more than a run of the mill theme park.

I remember the kids’ “firsts” (first time they were tall enough to ride Splash, etc), but beyond that, I don’t have a memory of every subsequent ride on Splash. I *do* have vivid memories of them dancing (to Moana songs, coincidentally) at the Poly on movie night. I do remember my son being terrified of Stitch, but then warming up to him when Stitch invited him to help lead the Ohana parade. I remember character meals and downtime in the hotel room and the lobby a lot better than I remember every ride on Test Track.

A lot of people approach Disney as rides-rides-rides! But I try not to do that anymore. I try to remember that WDW is a vacation, not just a trip, and leave a lot of time in between Fastpasses to enjoy our vacation together.

I would love more rides, and big improvements to the rides that need love. But things like this proposal do elevate WDW and make it special, to me.

 

[bUU]

Change is only good if it’s an improvement on what was there before. I’m sure you’ll think it is.

Disney has a track history of making great stuff so I'm predisposed to appreciating their work. The fact that you aren't is shocking and quite frankly pitiful because of what such predispositions deprive you of. And this isn't really a Disney thing - it applies to everything in life.

 

[bUU]

The only difference is my opinion does not line up with your opinion therefor my opinion is invalid. Get off it.

Claiming that you don't see a difference between expressing your personal preference and declaring someone else did something wrong is just you just lying to yourself. You "get off it".

 

[bUU]

Nope...it’s not about what I want...it’s the Straight history of Disney parks.

Nonsense. The "straight history of Disney parks" is change. Your complaining is really just about what you want. People have been complaining about changes Disney has made since Day One, and most of those changes that they complained about are things that, when they are changed again, people complain about change again.

To each their own, as I understand it was groundbreaking in it's time... but Snow White doesn't hold up. I actually think a lot of the Walt era films still are pretty entertainment despite their age, but Snow White is like 85% setting up the plot and random singing and then rushing through the actually climax and resolution. I atually think Moana is a far better film. And I'm not event that big a fan of Moana.

And there is a good chance that someday there will be a film that will be better than Moana in the same way Moana is better than Snow White, and that there will be a number of people who won't see it and rail against the idea.

 

[marni1971]

Disney has a track history of making great stuff so I'm predisposed to appreciating their work. The fact that you aren't is shocking and quite frankly pitiful because of what such predispositions deprive you of. And this isn't really a Disney thing - it applies to everything in life.

Quoted for posterity. Some want better than mediocrity.

But your quote describes perfectly what you’re content with and your understanding of the bigger picture.

That’s what is quite frankly pitiful, as you put it.

 

[bUU]

We get it...it’s your happy place.

No, you don't get it. It isn't about me at all. It's about you, and how hard you work to afflict yourself with curmudgeony. Perhaps you feel you get more enjoyment out of wallowing in sourness than you get from visiting the parks?

 

[wm49rs]

No, you don't get it. It isn't about me at all. It's about you, and how hard you work to afflict yourself with curmudgeony. Perhaps you feel you get more enjoyment out of wallowing in sourness than you get from visiting the parks?

And these incessant posts show how willing you are to be a bell end. What’s your point, caller?

 

[bUU]

Quoted for posterity. Some want better than mediocrity.

That's a nonsensical rationalization. It isn't mediocrity. You simply have chosen to predispose yourself to perceiving it as such.

But your quote describes perfectly what you’re content with and your understanding of the bigger picture.

And your reply describes perfectly why you're discontented with most of the things that the vast majority of Disney guests enjoy and shall be enjoying in the future.

That’s what is quite frankly pitiful, as you put it.

You, putting yourself outside looking in, even shielded in your armor of feigned-righteous indignation - that's what will be the most pitiful.

 

[wm49rs]

That's a nonsensical rationalization. It isn't mediocrity. You simply have chosen to predispose yourself to perceiving it as such.

And your reply describes perfectly why you're discontented with most of the things that the vast majority of Disney guests enjoy and shall be enjoying in the future.

You, putting yourself outside looking in, even shielded in your armor of feigned-righteous indignation - that's what will be the most pitiful.

Pretty sure the indignation isn’t feigned. But please, do carry on. And stay classy....

 

[Timothy_Q]

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Disney has a track history of making great stuff so I'm predisposed to appreciating their work. The fact that you aren't is shocking and quite frankly pitiful because of what such predispositions deprive you of. And this isn't really a Disney thing - it applies to everything in life.

You’re forgetting the rules here:

1. Everything older is genius.
2. Everything about which Walt so much as uttered a word is sacred and touching it is sacrilege.
2. Disney hasn’t kept up with anything in 30 years. Attractions are in desperate need of refreshes.
2b. All refreshes are bad unless they are precise restorations and bring back Horizons.
3. Characters are bad.
3a. Get FP to take pics with characters.
4. Once Disney makes an original movie with original characters, it’s no longer original; and using those characters in the parks would be unoriginal and lazy.
5. People who like characters in the park are simpleton Neanderthals who can’t possibly grasp the concept of [obsessive] theming.
6. People who think throwing out the most basic facts you probably already know at Epcot is “edutainment” are brainiac nerd spelling bee champions. People who find those basic facts boring are one step away from skid row.
7. Complain about new attractions from the moment concept art is released.
7a. Complain when same attraction closes; get the t-shirt, watch videos of it every day.
8. If you don’t like what I like, you must be dumb.
9. Theme parks are as much art as opera, and highbrow snobbery is warranted in discussing fake singing bears, fake talking mice, fake representations of Europe, and fake moose getting their tongues frozen to poles.
10. Criticism makes you sound smarter.

 

[gustaftp]

Not sure I follow your metaphor or your word choice of a conceit.

A window is but one feature on but one wall of the room. If the other three walls have triangle doors or windows and triangle furnishings and one wall has the replacement you speak of then the circle certainly doesn't fit.

In a structure full of triangles, a few circles here-and-there certainly can fit.

 

[LAKid53]

You’re forgetting the rules here:

1. Everything older is genius.
2. Everything about which Walt so much as uttered a word is sacred and touching it is sacrilege.
2. Disney hasn’t kept up with anything in 30 years. Attractions are in desperate need of refreshes.
2b. All refreshes are bad unless they are precise restorations and bring back Horizons.
3. Characters are bad.
3a. Get FP to take pics with characters.
4. Once Disney makes an original movie with original characters, it’s no longer original; and using those characters in the parks would be unoriginal and lazy.
5. People who like characters in the park are simpleton Neanderthals who can’t possibly grasp the concept of [obsessive] theming.
6. People who think throwing out the most basic facts you probably already know at Epcot is “edutainment” are brainiac nerd spelling bee champions. People who find those basic facts boring are one step away from skid row.
7. Complain about new attractions from the moment concept art is released.
7a. Complain when same attraction closes; get the t-shirt, watch videos of it every day.
8. If you don’t like what I like, you must be dumb.
9. Theme parks are as much art as opera, and highbrow snobbery is warranted in discussing fake singing bears, fake talking mice, fake representations of Europe, and fake moose getting their tongues frozen to poles.
10. Criticism makes you sound smarter.

Take a bow, sir. Bravo!

 

[marni1971]

That's a nonsensical rationalization. It isn't mediocrity. You simply have chosen to predispose yourself to perceiving it as such.

And your reply describes perfectly why you're discontented with most of the things that the vast majority of Disney guests enjoy and shall be enjoying in the future.

You, putting yourself outside looking in, even shielded in your armor of feigned-righteous indignation - that's what will be the most pitiful.

Does this turn you on at all? It certainly seems to bother you enough to write about it.

All you seem to do is attempt and fail to pull apart other members opinions without adding anything useful. Which is against forum rules I might add.

And we’d all hate to see you banned.

 

[monothingie]

Nonsense. The "straight history of Disney parks" is change. Your complaining is really just about what you want. People have been complaining about changes Disney has made since Day One, and most of those changes that they complained about are things that, when they are changed again, people complain about change again.

And there is a good chance that someday there will be a film that will be better than Moana in the same way Moana is better than Snow White, and that there will be a number of people who won't see it and rail against the idea.

In 5 years, as hard as Disney tries no one will care about Moana, but the IP based attraction will linger on dying a slow death.

 

[Bocabear]

It's not even about the popularity of Moana...And for the record I thought it was beautiful. I think this new water feature is very beautiful in it's concept art stage... My problem with it stems more from it's location making no sense at all. It looks and feels like Adventureland... It feels like it was designed for Animal Kingdom.... It does not jive well with a futuristic Sphere, Modernistic architecture and plazas which is what you are walking past at that moment you see it...and at the end of the water feature is another futuristic , modern Living Seas building...which also doesn't really seem to jive well with the rustic Polynesian vibe of the water feature... I am, at this point, not understanding the design direction for the new park... I am not predisposed to hating anything...I DO feel the the original design of the park was beautiful...well designed and inspiring... This new direction baffles me...

 

[Magenta Panther]

Just because I don't consistently spam the threads with Disney bashing every instance does not mean I'm a pixie duster. Perhaps you should take some time and do a search of my past posts to educate yourself on my positions on many things before accusing me of snorting the gold dust. It gets tiring when people offer nothing new to their criticisms; "bOb IgEr Is SaTaN"gets old after the first time. I'm sorry you'd rather enjoy the trashiness that is current day Future World than the great things that are on the horizon(s).

If you don't like my posts, don't read 'em. Savvy?