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Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

Snow Queen 83

Active Member
And rightly so...It would make no sense whatsoever... just like what they did to Communicore. The building was large enough to hold a dark ride, a "One Man's Dream" museum focusing on Walt Disney's futurism and the World's Fairs...and then in a final stroke of genius, move Carousel Of Progress in it's original Mid century configuration to that arc of Communicore... A Preamble to EPCOT...the dream, it's roots and what it has become... Something hopeful and inspirational... Not vast useless park spaces, broken symmetry and an out of context water feature.

Exactly, there's so much they could have done with the space.

One Man's Dream does seem to make sense for this park. Both with the past version and the new one (with Walt's statue).
 

Snow Queen 83

Active Member
You know this how? First, we are getting club cool back, please read what is still going into other section, we will get the Meet and Greets back. Starbucks in separate building has been confirmed. So what we are getting is an ADD, its a tie to seas as a "preentry" walkway. Yes it has IP tie in, but so far the artwork has shown it to be subtle. So again, is this real issues, or just hate for hate sake?

?? Entry is set, SSE is set, this is a side area closer to Seas that has a great tie in possibility with the world of nature where it is going. As for Main Street, that isn't happening so I won't go into supposition for you. This was an unused abused building that got torn down. As part of that they are building a extra area to enhance some tie in.

I for one will hold judgement on what it is until it is built and we see the whole picture. Patience isn't a real virtue here.

Just because they are putting Club Cool on the other side doesn't mean the right side is useless. What would you rather have 3 great things to do or 6 great things?
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
Imagine they tore down the right side of Main Street....and replaced it with a Zootopia Interactive Water play area, and 20 acres of lawn and trees.....
Then told you it was because everyone wanted more landscaped park spaces in the Magic Kingdom....
And it was no longer Main Street but now called "Shoppingtime Celebration Neighborhood"... and the Right side was now part of "Event Lawntopia Celebration Neighborhood"....
 

Mac Tonight

Well-Known Member
Imagine they tore down the right side of Main Street....and replaced it with a Zootopia Interactive Water play area, and 20 acres of lawn and trees.....
Then told you it was because everyone wanted more landscaped park spaces in the Magic Kingdom....
And it was no longer Main Street but now called "Shoppingtime Celebration Neighborhood"... and the Right side was now part of "Event Lawntopia Celebration Neighborhood"....
Don't give Chapek ideas!!! One of his stoolies is probably lurking here somewhere...
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Imagine they tore down the right side of Main Street....and replaced it with a Zootopia Interactive Water play area, and 20 acres of lawn and trees.....
Then told you it was because everyone wanted more landscaped park spaces in the Magic Kingdom....
And it was no longer Main Street but now called "Shoppingtime Celebration Neighborhood"... and the Right side was now part of "Event Lawntopia Celebration Neighborhood"....
Again, this is not the same thing. Everyone has a mental image of what an area called "Main Street, U.S.A." should look like because it pulls from American history and our lived experiences. It's a street lined with charming shops and attractions.

There is no such equivalent for a "future world hub" because it's not trying to reproduce something. It's meant to be evocative of a time that doesn't exist yet. Symmetry and asymmetry would both be valid design options. The complication here is that Future World was originally designed with symmetry in mind, so the team redesigning the space has their work cut out for them if they want to convince people that the change in direction was worthwhile. Obviously, many will never be convinced, but I'm willing to at least give the space a chance in person even if I don't agree with demolishing perfectly good buildings on principle.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
Imagine they tore down the right side of Main Street....and replaced it with a Zootopia Interactive Water play area, and 20 acres of lawn and trees.....
Then told you it was because everyone wanted more landscaped park spaces in the Magic Kingdom....
And it was no longer Main Street but now called "Shoppingtime Celebration Neighborhood"... and the Right side was now part of "Event Lawntopia Celebration Neighborhood"....
Not even a remotely appropriate comparison.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Obviously 3 middling things is greater than a useless building. Plus… asymmetry!

It wasn't completely useless. It blocked any breezes so in the summer the plaza was a heat trap. The FoN adding just the right amount of humidity to create an outdoor sauna type atmosphere.
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Shaded paths with cooling water features seems like a good upgrade.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
It wasn't completely useless. It blocked any breezes so in the summer the plaza was a heat trap. The FoN adding just the right amount of humidity to create an outdoor sauna type atmosphere.
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Why do you talk rubbish again?

You do know there was an anemometer in the plaza to control the fountain height due to the breezes in the plaza?

Guess you had to be there to know.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Why do you talk rubbish again?

You do know there was an anemometer in the plaza to control the fountain height due to the breezes in the plaza?

Guess you had to be there to know.

It still was a humidifier. Umbrellas and massive canopies couldn't solve it. Club Cool helped.

IMO.
 

HauntedPirate

Sheltered-at-home Park nostalgist
Premium Member
It wasn't completely useless. It blocked any breezes so in the summer the plaza was a heat trap. The FoN adding just the right amount of humidity to create an outdoor sauna type atmosphere.
☕

Shaded paths with cooling water features seems like a good upgrade.
It’s amazing to read the nonsense you create. Truly amazing. None of what you said is true.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
No, it wasn’t.

In anyone’s opinion who actually knew.

But as always change your narrative to try and fix the holes in your story.

Must have been a hot and humid day when I walked through around the millennium celebration. Funny, it was never really noticeable before most of the original landscaping was removed. Just my recollection and observations.

Wouldn't be surprised if DAK's Oasis wasn't a reaction to the removal of all the original Communicore Plaza green spaces. IMO.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
This thread is ridiculous. Whether you like it or not, you're getting a Moana themed fountain area. Sorry to disappoint folks. Life goes on.

Who is disappointed? There has always been a very vocal group on these boards that criticize 90% of the decisions made by TDO and TWDC at WDW. Time and again we have proof these complaints do not represent the general audience at the resort.

Journey of Water will be very popular. Bookmark it.
 

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