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EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

TrainsOfDisney

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Again, I get some of the angst with this being in Epcot. But it’s IN world of nature, and directly next to Seas. I really don't think you can totally stand on it isn't a fit thematically with anything around it.
It’s not the water theme that doesn’t fit, imagination has had jumping fountains and a huge backwards waterfall for decades. Moana is fine - she’s just in the background anyways.

The issue is how jarring it is from the rest of Epcot. Even guardians, which I’m 100% against being part of Epcot visually fits and looks like an Epcot pavilion.
 

Haymarket2008

Well-Known Member
Perhaps 😉 there's an underlining velvet reason why it's there smack in the middle. Actually imagine what we would of had if it was not in this location.. more hideous prototype community of today seating, lamps nicks, bronze metal tree that ain't a tree section.. more space of nothing.. bring back Baymax!

You think people want to come to Epcot to share a sandwich at a bench.. the only benefit is if your a current student and need to be studying none of this area will distract you unless the music ...🙊

………..huh?
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
………..huh?
Perhaps 😉 there's an underlining velvet reason why it's there smack in the middle. Actually imagine what we would of had if it was not in this location.. more hideous prototype community of today seating, lamps nicks, bronze RUSTED metal tree that ain't a tree section.. more space of nothing.. bring back Baymax!

You think people want to come to Epcot to share a sandwich at a bench.. the only benefit is if your a current student and need to be studying none of this area will distract you unless the music ...🙊
FIFY - I checked it, its actual RUST :mad:
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
It’s not the water theme that doesn’t fit, imagination has had jumping fountains and a huge backwards waterfall for decades. Moana is fine - she’s just in the background anyways.

The issue is how jarring it is from the rest of Epcot. Even guardians, which I’m 100% against being part of Epcot visually fits and looks like an Epcot pavilion.
Is a naturalistic setting respite jarring?
I don't know if I'd use that term, but I like the idea that you step into a place that takes you out of the more modern environment.
 

Phicinfan

Well-Known Member
Yes, it is in world of nature, but carries none of the look or style of the rest of World Nature... Perhaps if they had built rock outcropping in the landscape in and around The Land and The Seas that matched...something to vuisuallt tie it to the rest of that area... then it would feel like it is meant to be part of that neighborhood...But as it stands, it is a pocket that is oddly tropical and with very specific rockwork, separated by the monorail beam and ring path from the rest of what we might consider World Nature.... Too separate and too thematically and visually different to feel part of....wow what a run-on sentence!!
So... all the rock and stone IN the attraction doesn't matter? Ok, walk me through exactly what rock outcropping is near the Seas or land that this doesn't match? I don't believe there is any real tie between Seas and Land either. Just seems to be a bit of nit picking here.

I honestly think some here just can't get past the idea that the "old" layout doesn't exist anymore, and there is a new layout. In that layout you have Seas, Land and Moana directly near each other. All tied to nature and all three have key edjutainment value. Its a clear win.

Now, could this have potentially fit in AK or Adventureland? Yes. I concede that. I still don't think this is a total outlier though at Epcot
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I honestly think some here just can't get past the idea that the "old" layout doesn't exist anymore, and there is a new layout.
And I honestly think some here immediately dismiss criticism as being from “old timers” or “traditionalists.” While many parts of Epcot are not what I would have done, the only thing that seems to not fit is Moana, but I also think it’s an excellent walk through attraction.

There’s plenty examples of Disney plopping things that don’t fit into areas just cause. Studios in particular is a total mess thematically because of this.

This was most likely not designed for Epcot and plopped into future world cause that’s where they needed something - no other explanation makes sense to me.
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
And I honestly think some here immediately dismiss criticism as being from “old timers” or “traditionalists.” While many parts of Epcot are not what I would have done, the only thing that seems to not fit is Moana, but I also think it’s an excellent walk through attraction.

There’s plenty examples of Disney plopping things that don’t fit into areas just cause. Studios in particular is a total mess thematically because of this.

This was most likely not designed for Epcot and plopped into future world cause that’s where they needed something - no other explanation makes sense to me.
I dismiss most of the complaints about things “not fitting” because they seem to be based on what Epcot was, not what it is now or what it’s becoming.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I dismiss most of the complaints about things “not fitting” because they seem to be based on what Epcot was, not what it is now or what it’s becoming.
Well then you dismiss a lot of valid points.

I am 100% against guardians being in Epcot but that area fits great with its surroundings.

I really like the Moana attraction, and liked that me and my mom (who can’t do many rides at all) could experience it together. But I don’t see how it fits where it is by any stretch. And that’s ok… I still enjoyed it but it’s still a very valid criticism.
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
And what exactly is it becoming?
I have no idea. But neither do most of the complainers, which is my point.

I’m not saying there’s never room to criticize. I’m saying many of the criticisms I read here seem to be things like “Guardians doesn’t fit in Future World!” Which isn’t a thing anymore.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
EPCOT still retains it's unspoken theme of being a World's Fair. It's FestivalLand.

Only, it's missing the kind of pavilions that tech/industrial companies would provide as a glimpse into the future (and a way to advertise their goods and services). And that's because "look at this future" becomes dated within a decade and neither the companies nor Disney wants to foot the bill of retheming the pavilions every decade.

I would've wanted JoW to be closer to The Seas. But, it's not so bad in person in which the entrance to JoW and The Seas are facing each other across a wide plaza. And the rest of JoW is walled off by trees from the rest of the hub. Not ideal, but a welcome respite from all the concrete.
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
Well then you dismiss a lot of valid points.

I am 100% against guardians being in Epcot but that area fits great with its surroundings.

I really like the Moana attraction, and liked that me and my mom (who can’t do many rides at all) could experience it together. But I don’t see how it fits where it is by any stretch. And that’s ok… I still enjoyed it but it’s still a very valid criticism.
World Nature is a new land at Epcot that consists of The Land, The Seas, and Moana’s Journey of Water. The theme is “dedication to understanding and preserving the beauty, awe and balance of the natural world.”

You don’t see how JoW fits this “by any stretch?”
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I would've wanted JoW to be closer to The Seas. But, it's not so bad in person in which the entrance to JoW and The Seas are facing each other across a wide plaza. And the rest of JoW is walled off by trees from the rest of the hub. Not ideal, but a welcome respite from all the concrete.
Which does bring up this point - if there is a long term plan to make the seas and the area around it match the tropical vibe of Moana - then my thoughts could be very different.

It’s very likely there was such a plan and it got budget cut by all those rusting trees lol
 

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