Fear
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Not sure what your point is here, either.
My point is that popular things are popular.
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EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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My point is that popular things are popular.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
So...we actually have no information, beyond photos and the interpretation of those? No insider post with knowledge of the project?
MrPromey
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I'm glad you clarified because it sounded for a second there, like you were trying to compare Journey of Water on some level to World of Color since they both have water and (maybe) lights as elements.
That would have just been silly.
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James Alucobond
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There were still multiple hoses hanging out of the signature basalt rock formation last week. Not sure if they're cleaned up yet. Backstage doorways are still undisguised. Stain and sealant still appeared to be going down on pathways in the latest aerials. The building containing the in-attraction bathrooms is still being worked on. The signage with the attraction logo hasn't been installed yet. Requisite emergency exits may not be accessible yet due to surrounding construction. Yes, they sometimes sit on things and move more slowly than they could, but this attraction is definitely not done just yet.
are the bathrooms gonna be in that long black building im guessing? Looks like the starcase portion will be the northern(in this pic) section and the bathrooms with be accesable on the pathway where the number 1 is near the jumping fountans section maybe?
James Alucobond
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I'm pretty sure you've got the right building but wrong entrance. The entrance looks to be at the northeast end of the building via the path just outside the cave exit. You'll notice the wood partition on that end is finished on both sides as well.
Disneyson
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Popping back in because of the new pictures of the sensors in the gourds - doesn’t that scream “re-used Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom” to you? Is it possible that SotMK was closed so Moana could live? And if so… wow, that would be lame.
I really hope WDI was able to figure out how to fix the sensor issues in Pandora that broke even before the land opened (with the reactive floors). This feels very similar to a repeat.
Also… why does WDI think that motion controls are intuitive? In my experience with them, they hardly get used when working. The big one I remember was the Haunted Mansion ghost poet as well as the Little Mermaid “this doesn’t belong” game, which are technically always working but total flops in terms of engagement. While these are kinda cool because they feel like “hidden secrets” that the in-the-know are aware of, an attraction centered on them feels… really short-sighted.
I love fountains! I tolerate Moana! I like interactivity, too. But this feels posed for guest confusion and the need to staff this for the first two weeks so the guests understand, and then absolutely no staffing, leading to a lack of understanding and eventual flop of the area. I really, really hope I’m wrong.
I really hope WDI was able to figure out how to fix the sensor issues in Pandora that broke even before the land opened (with the reactive floors). This feels very similar to a repeat.
Also… why does WDI think that motion controls are intuitive? In my experience with them, they hardly get used when working. The big one I remember was the Haunted Mansion ghost poet as well as the Little Mermaid “this doesn’t belong” game, which are technically always working but total flops in terms of engagement. While these are kinda cool because they feel like “hidden secrets” that the in-the-know are aware of, an attraction centered on them feels… really short-sighted.
I love fountains! I tolerate Moana! I like interactivity, too. But this feels posed for guest confusion and the need to staff this for the first two weeks so the guests understand, and then absolutely no staffing, leading to a lack of understanding and eventual flop of the area. I really, really hope I’m wrong.
There is something really wrong at Disney when they intentionally delay essentially complete attractions at one of the most popular resorts on earth because they think it is more profitable. They should really shut up about ever mentioning raising prices as the only way to prevent overcrowding as they also add after hours events and don't extend park hours enough while also not having enough new expansion planned or under construction.
jeanericuser001
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Hate to tell you this but everyone does that. Busch Gardens has iron gwazi. Sea world had one as well. Universal has done it. As for this attraction, your ignorance is showing. The moana attraction is only a part of the finished project. Letting in people right now would only create confusion and more customer complaints as people would want all or nothing. That is why the project is still being worked on so they can complete the project instead of just another footpath area that essentially goes no where.
Casper Gutman
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Moana really isn't part of the central plaza project - it's geographically very separate from that area. That project should also have been completed in its entirety years ago. I suspect we don't have the full story of why the plaza project has been so delayed...
FutureCEO
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Are we training as Jedi? The woman is the second picture looks like that.
SilentWindODoom
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You're absolutely right. Better to have thick ropes that assure children can't see a thing.
jeanericuser001
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I suspect they are treating the whole thing as one project and the moana portion was the easiest part. The second part now is exhibition areas which supposedly was gonna feature stages and a what appeared to be large displays. They might have scaled back the project a bit due to budget cuts. My suspicion is they probably had a deal that was to be announced with a big sponsor but once covid happened the sponsor pulled out so now disney is building something that has no sponsor so they are trying to find a new one to take its place before they make any big announcements.
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Disstevefan1
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You are correct, thick ropes would be even worse.
I guess you are right, what else can they do at this point? They have no choice but to finish this.
But the fencing does remind me of chain link fence. Maybe it's just me.
HauntedMansionFLA
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Fall goes all the way up to December 20th. I assume they want to open everything together???? In the real world, The festival center could have been done last year.
lazyboy97o
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Even when it is done, Journey of Water is a footpath that essentially goes nowhere. It is a loop completely disconnected from the rest of the central plaza.
They scaled the project back because Chapek wasn’t interested in building Iger’s vanity project and the pandemic had them reassessing expenses. There was no secret sponsor or some secret deadline to find a new one by this fall, especially since a big sponsor would want some sort of integration into the design.
MrPromey
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Which would really make no sense if true since both the entrance and exit are facing The Living Seas and the center spine is intended to be hidden from view while inside.
There is absolutely no connection between this and the dreamer's point, landscaped center, stage areas other than that they are near each other.
This won't even face any of that.
Back before the layout was more defined, it appeared like this was going to be a somewhat open area accessible from multiple sides but it's going to be a very controlled Swiss Family Robinson's style walk-through where there is a single entrance and single exit and both are opposite the spine so unless there are construction/access reasons they need to wait for the rest to be completed, there is no attraction/theme/accessibility reason to wait for that just to open this.
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