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EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

KeithVH

KeithVH

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And I will still ask my DW "Hey, do you wanna go to Mouse Gear?"

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ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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Bocabear said:
if they were looking for the worst case scenario, they chose it...placing Moana in the hub of whatever they are calling the central court as you pass Spaceship Earth... Thematically so wrong in style for this park. Maybe if it was literally attached to the Living Seas... but it is not... It is near The Living Seas...but again so stylistically wrong... I am waiting for the Mary Poppins Jolly Holiday ride in Tomorrowland next...
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They could have also found a way to fit it into the World Showcase where it would have fit better
 
Mireille

Mireille

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Epcot82Guy said:
As one of them, too - I have seen a number of groups of adults being loud, visibly intoxicated, less-than-friendly language, etc. This is especially true during Food and Wine weekends. I don't think it's "pervasive". But, it is present.
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I think the whole idea of "drinking around the world" inevitably leads to this... 11 drinks! Maybe they should sell a "drinking around the world" package where you get a drink in each country, but they cut the alcohol content or serving size so people aren't full on drunk by the time they get to the end. I dunno. I'm a teetotaler; I don't care if people drink, but I DO care when they get dangerously sloppy or belligerent.
 
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Bocabear

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trust me, their drinks have already had the alcohol amount value engineered...lol It would be impossible to cut the alcohol in standard beer and wine products.
EPCOT always catered to a more mature crowd, though also offered family friendly things... Having some people over-enjoy the booze is just part of selling it and enjoying the huge profits that come with it. I have certainly enjoyed many a tipsy time in the World Showcase...
It is just part of this park... If it is bothersome, stick to the Magic Kingdom where booze is very limited...
 
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Mireille

Mireille

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Bocabear said:
trust me, their drinks have already had the alcohol amount value engineered...lol It would be impossible to cut the alcohol in standard beer and wine products.
EPCOT always catered ti a more mature crowd, though also offered family friendly things... Having some people over-enjoy the booze is just part of selling it and enjoying the huge profits that come with it. I have certainly enjoyed many a tipsy time in the World Showcase...
It is juat part of this park... If it is bothersome, stick to the Magic Kingdom where booze is very limited...
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I'm not talking about Disney maximizing their alcohol profit, I'm talking about trying to avoid over-serving and I know they can't vary the alcohol content in beer and wine, that's why I said "or serving size."

And why would I go to the Magic Kingdom instead when EPCOT is my favorite park? I'd been to DLR as a kid and liked it well enough, but going to EPCOT when I was 12 is why I love Disney parks. I honestly don't know if I'd even go to WDW if EPCOT weren't there. And obviously I go to MK as well.

Honestly, I find your response puzzling considering every other post I read of yours is complaining about something else, but you think I should just suck it up or stick to Magic Kingdom because you don't agree with MY comment.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Mireille said:
I'm not talking about Disney maximizing their alcohol profit, I'm talking about trying to avoid over-serving and I know they can't vary the alcohol content in beer and wine, that's why I said "or serving size."

And why would I go to the Magic Kingdom instead when EPCOT is my favorite park? I'd been to DLR as a kid and liked it well enough, but going to EPCOT when I was 12 is why I love Disney parks. I honestly don't know if I'd even go to WDW if EPCOT weren't there. And obviously I go to MK as well.

Honestly, I find your response puzzling considering every other post I read of yours is complaining about something else, but you think I should just suck it up or stick to Magic Kingdom because you don't agree with MY comment.
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I was not saying YOU should stick to the magic Kingdom...it was not a personal shot but thank you for making sure you lobbed one at me. What I am saying is that is sort of an inherent thing about the park and the fact that it gets an older demographic... Only way to avoid that is for one to stick to the parks that don't serve alcohol... I too have witnessed some bad behavior there... So I understand your concern... I also feel like the serving size to cost ration is about as high as you can make it...
 
MagicRat

MagicRat

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Oh my…another attack the alcoholics theme is taking over a thread. This is sensationalism, just because you saw a drunk there doesn’t mean it’s running rampant. I have been three times a year for thirty years and can count on one hand the well over served intoxicated people.

Now if you want to attack the lame frat boy tshirts about drinking around the world, that is fine by me but I think all of the custom tshirts from going broke at Disney to no man wearing a custom Disney shirt is ridiculous. Have a beer and chill out!
 
Mireille

Mireille

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Bocabear said:
I was not saying YOU should stick to the magic Kingdom...it was not a personal shot but thank you for making sure you lobbed one at me. What I am saying is that is sort of an inherent thing about the park and the fact that it gets an older demographic... Only way to avoid that is for one to stick to the parks that don't serve alcohol... I too have witnessed some bad behavior there... So I understand your concern... I also feel like the serving size to cost ration is about as high as you can make it...
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't have taken a cheap shot at you, I apologize. It can be hard to read intent online and even if it was meant the way I took it, I should have been more charitable. And honestly, I've never PERSONALLY run into any issues with drunk guests. I live too far away to go regularly, but I watch some YouTube channels and of course every time someone gets drunk and belligerent they report it because even Disney park fan sites are on the Florida Man beat. And if they report it once or twice a month, that can seem common but with the thousands of guests every day, of course it's still incredibly rare. I know that logically, but I'm human and sometimes don't do the math. Again, sorry for popping off like I did.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Mireille said:
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have taken a cheap shot at you, I apologize. It can be hard to read intent online and even if it was meant the way I took it, I should have been more charitable. And honestly, I've never PERSONALLY run into any issues with drunk guests. I live too far away to go regularly, but I watch some YouTube channels and of course every time someone gets drunk and belligerent they report it because even Disney park fan sites are on the Florida Man beat. And if they report it once or twice a month, that can seem common but with the thousands of guests every day, of course it's still incredibly rare. I know that logically, but I'm human and sometimes don't do the math. Again, sorry for popping off like I did.
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all cool. And I agree with you about not liking to be around the Frat boy energy... I was just spit-balling what could be done...
I end up at a loss... It isa not enough to keep me away, but find I avoid the late afternoon crowds around Rose and Crown and Mexico...
 
Patcheslee

Patcheslee

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Mireille said:
I think the whole idea of "drinking around the world" inevitably leads to this... 11 drinks! Maybe they should sell a "drinking around the world" package where you get a drink in each country, but they cut the alcohol content or serving size so people aren't full on drunk by the time they get to the end. I dunno. I'm a teetotaler; I don't care if people drink, but I DO care when they get dangerously sloppy or belligerent.
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With WS only being open only 10 hours, it will always be an issue because the average person has to drink more than 1 an hour. But an average persons body breaks down 1 alcoholic per hour. So it stack up.
 

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