Animaniac93-98
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But it's taken so long that by the time it's done, people will be happy just to have the walls removed, forgetting what else is left to do.
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Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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But it's taken so long that by the time it's done, people will be happy just to have the walls removed, forgetting what else is left to do.
FettFan
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“Universe of Energy Solar Coaster - Ride the Sunshine”
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
If it works, it works. lol...
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Not EVERY attraction has to do that... But Figment, Dreamfinder,SMRT-1, Bird & Robot, Buzzy, General Knowledge, the Trolls in Maelstrom, and even the flight attendant on Soarin' are/were so UNIQUE to this park, that they did make a huge difference in the overall experience.
My main argument is not just "Epcot needs only original characters." Read all of my responses.
You act like this helps your case.
EPCOTCenterLover
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The soul of EPCOT was once found in Future World. Now, it remains only in World Showcase. For now- until its eventually turned into Toontown.
James Alucobond
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Your main points of contention with regard to Moana seem to be that:
- It should not have even been considered before they fixed other things in the park, which I think we've established essentially everyone agrees with. There are far more broken things in EPCOT.
- It doesn't really belong where it is, isn't an efficient or sensible use of the hub, and doesn't complement or lead into related experiences, which, again, is generally a point only defended by the most ardent of the defense force or by people who simply don't care at all about the logical flow of the space.
- It doesn't introduce original, groundbreaking characters or stories. This is where I disagree with the negativity. As long as the attraction isn't about Moana and the plot of her movie but rather about Moana as a guide through the water cycle and a character who can help connect guests to what is being taught, I don't see how that contradicts the mission of EPCOT, new or old. That you preferred the original characters is fine, but there is nothing inherently negative about using existing characters, aside from the obvious temptation to make it all about them and not about what you're teaching. That doesn't seem to be the case here, though this is again with limited visibility into the final product.
If you have other points, you can state them plainly. Most of your direct responses to me were simply that you disagreed or strongly disagreed.
It is a walkthrough attraction with interactive exhibits. I am not sure what you expect. It's not all that different from Innoventions, just centered on a single topic related to the natural world.
I would never condone TT in world showcase, but its crazy that FL doesnt have a ToonTown somewhere imo
UNCgolf
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They used to; it was replaced by Storybook Circus.
There wasn't much to it but it was still better than Storybook Circus.
MrPromey
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There will be an upcharge if you want to throw pennies.
MrPromey
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Too bad Univeral has the rights to Animal House - another perfect fit for that park.
Actually, given the current state of world showcase, Epcot might actually be the right choice for that one.
Wonder how many people there this time of year might be "inspired to go... into" this attraction after doing their WS crawls.
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Riviera Rita
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Slowly removing all the science and fun educational stuff. But, that doesn't sell merchandise.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Was Moana placed in the right park?
Sorry... I promise this is my last poll on this. It's a heated topic for me! LOL! Just a note: This is not a discussion on Moana in Animal Kingdom (unless it directly relates to a point being made about the location in EPCOT)... I don't need a poll for that one. This is purely for the water...
Weather_Lady
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That's true, but I keep thinking about how Disney finished Remy early, and then let it sit and rot until the time it had announced for opening. I wouldn't put it past them to do the same here. (In truth, I'd _love_ to see it open when we go in August, but I'm trying to manage my expectations. Disney has burnt me a few times now with delayed openings, so now I take an "expect the worst, but secretly hope for the best" approach.)
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Incomudro
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Given this is a walkthrough, and doesn't require the staffing and training that a ride does - I don't imagine they'll do that.
Plus, even though WDW has dragged on so many of these construction efforts for years I still imagine they have at least some desire to bring some of the walls down in Epcot.
Disstevefan1
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The EPCOT renovation will be "successfully completed" later this year. Then EPCOT will be ignored for another 20 years.
Goofnut1980
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Oh, I wonder if the water will dance to the music.. or will it just be plain ordinary water? lol
Weather_Lady
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James Alucobond
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Even if they redo Spaceship Earth, I think it's unlikely they'll modify the Project Tomorrow exit as previously planned. They've already reconfigured Dreamers Point to account for this.
Animaniac93-98
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The least attended Disney theme park in the world is the one that is nothing but IP rides and shows.
And its most successful new addition since opening was a ride not based on a Disney movie or TV show.
There is more to a theme park than what items you can put on a store shelf.
(Especially when Disney's habit is to stock whatever, wherever, regardless of what park or land the shop is in)
I say this because Disney has such a strong belief in their IP-only strategy that they fail to realize they've created a self-fulfilling prophecy where if they only build IP rides and sell character merch in their gift shops, that's the only thing their audience will respond too, despite proof otherwise from their own recent history (Soarin', Expedition Everest, Mystic Manor etc).
A Moana walk-through in this location was far from the only option, but the company has become so risk adverse that they thought this would be a modest investment that will yield a satisfactory return on investment in some form or another. It's unknown if that will be true given the prolonged construction timeline or if increased merch sales were really the result of this specific attraction, or Disney just stocking more Moana merch in their existing retail locations. The cause and effect of impulse buys will be hard to measure.
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