GSP Guy
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Don't know about the front desk part but we are not disabled.
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Josh D'Amaro comments on rising prices and "additional" or removed services: "An inevitable result of progress"
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erasure fan1
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No chance. Disney wants the flexibility to run with whatever model allows them to milk the most cash from their customers.
Like a business should to make more revenue such as hotel rooms ( ie 12/25-31)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Drink the sand
erasure fan1
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No one is saying they shouldn't make money. They are more than welcome to make more money. It's the constantly lowering the experience that chaps most people's butts.
ladybat2
Member
I don't pay to park in any mall or shopping center parking lots where I live or anywhere around the area where I live. Hope I don't ever have to.
MissingDisney
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And yet, for some of us, it’s common.
It just goes to show the extreme differences in people’s experiences and expectations. Those differences are reflected in people’s reactions to Disney as of late.
I probably shouldn’t admit this but if I want to go to Disney bad enough, I am willing to actually pay more than what they’re charging now. But the issue I have is that I am being charged more for less. Much more and much less. I don’t care about hidden costs or what budget line the parking lot maintenance comes from and all that. I just know I’m paying a ton more and not even getting the same as what I used to. That’s irritating.
MrPromey
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Except to use a metaphor, under the bundled model, your steak and potato and broccoli was $25 and now with à la carte they're saying, the steak will be $30 (and two ounces less) but if you want the broccoli, that'll be another $5 and the potato will be $6 - $8 of you want a loaded potato.
If they'd charged less for the steak or at minimum even, kept it where the "bundle" price was, they might have gotten away with the change with people not getting too upset and articles in mainstream media sources writing pieces with titles like "Has Disney finally gone too far?" and then they could have steadily increased prices by a dollar here and there on each new unbundled thing all at the same time for years to come but that's not how Bob C's Disney rolls.
It's like how in articles, they talk about how Bob 1.0's plan was to keep Disney+ priced low and to start increasing it by like a dollar a year to bring it up to where it would eventually sit and how new Bob just decided to jack it all the way up at once which, yes, increases short-term gain but doing it the old Bob's way means not really creating a singular tipping moment where a big group of people at once are deciding "Do I get rid of Netflix or Disney?" on the whole, because the price sort of crept up instead of smacking them in the face.
It was a strategy of subtly.
This guy sees no problem going straight for the jugular which is why so many feel like the "magic is gone", the "company has lost its soul", etc. Maybe it was always like that or maybe it's really been that way for like the last 10-15 years (in my opinion it's the latter) but either way old leadership (by which I mean everyone up until this point) was good at thinking through the company's reputation - at least keeping up the pretenses of legacy.
This one doesn't seem to care enough to even try to hide it and I think it's the brazenness and shameless way people within the company now seem empowered to openly talk about things and take certain kinds of action that is off-putting to a lot of us.
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MrPromey
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I think that's the sentiment many of us are articulating in our own way. We remember with details - not just nostalgia - it being a lot better for a good deal less which is why paying more to see the husk of what we used to enjoy rubs people around here the wrong way.
I used to enjoy going to Disney. When my son was born and old enough, I enjoyed going with him almost a decade ago although I'd already noticed changes I didn't like. The last few times we went, there really wasn't much I enjoyed about the experience at all. I continued to go for him but it was getting harder and harder and less fun with each visit and of course, prices were creeping up at the exact same time.
They've been burning both ends of the candle at once like it's a race to see which side catches the other side first.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Or the straw that broke the camels back.
Unfortunately the list of negative changes is long and getting longer by the day. The final straw for a lot of people could be something as minor as parking.
ladybat2
Member
Yes I totally agree with you. That is my issue as well. As I said before, back in the day when Disney was the best vacation on the planet I had to save and skimp for a year to take my kids for a week there and never regretted a single penny I spent there and felt I got all my money's worth. I have not felt that way for the last 3 trips. I'm taking one last one for one of my now adult daughters who is in bad need of it and wants to go so badly. She had an extremely bad past couple of years so I'm giving this to her but I told her this is the last for me. Unless some really epic changes happen to bring it back to what it used to be they will not get another cent of my money. As much as I loved the place I have to accept that its just no longer the Disney that gave me my money's worth. I'll take a shorter vacation to Universal instead and do a spa day at the Ritz in Orlando or go to some other exotic place on the earth.
For a lot of people especially in this thread is obvious. When I read the regular quarterly earnings conference call transcripts with Bob and CFO Christine with Wall Street, guest spending says otherwise so will more charges be on the horizon? It is not if but when. Whatever some say about the free parking garage at Disney Springs, that will in the future in my opinion no longer be free.
John park hopper
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Maybe peanuts but it all adds up when you look at the big picture
andysol
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If she needs Disney in her life, go to Tokyo.
The cost difference even with the flight is negligible if anything at all.
Chi84
Premium Member
You can't. Disney brought back Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party. Imagine that.…I’d have enough to buy a ticket to Boo Bash by now
Animaniac93-98
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Disney wants to sell the convenience of a bundled package, but reap the benefits of upcharges and ad ons.
I find this to be common among many resorts and cruises that sell themselves as being "all-inclusive" but then charge for activity x, service y and restaurant/bar z.
Animaniac93-98
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This bears repeating. The only thing more expensive about going to Japan vs Florida is the flight. Once you get there, everything costs about the same or less, even Disney admission, food and nearby lodging if you stay in one of the "Official" Hotels near Bayside monorail station.
But a lot of people live within a day or two's drive of WDW and the convenience and comfort of staying in the USA is difficult for some to let go of. Even if the hassle of travelling abroad and the fear of cultural/language barriers are overstated (I don't speak Japanese and didn't have any issues when I was there. They know most tourists don't).
Smiley/OCD
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You’re absolutely correct and they do it because they can…I was just adding that even though we don’t agree with it, we pay it because of the convenience…sorry I just attributed it to the wrong person
Smiley/OCD
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Like the old saying goes…”It’s not what you say, it’s HOW you say it”
Josh gives the vibe of being more likable but he’s corporate just like Chappie…and the first time he p***es him off or appears to be a threat, he too will be on the outside looking in.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Same difference
