Trip Report It’s broken. A Loco Christmas TR!

Hello everyone!
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We just got back yesterday from our weeklong stay at WDW and as promised, I am here to deliver a full blown loco_driver TR. I have about a million pictures to sort through still, but we have enough to get started. Let’s do this!

When: December 4-11

Who: Me and the wife A, or Mrs. Loco if you will. Pickle the dog would not be making the trip.
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Where: Split stay between OKW and Riviera.
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With all the formalities out of the way, let’s do it to it!
 

Loco_driver

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Final thoughts.

I always have trouble with this part. I think this one is especially tough. I’m going to give it my best shot. Enjoy my ramblings.

Hotels- We stayed at OKW and Riviera. OKW’s strength is its overall laid back vibe. This is carried out by both CMs and guests. We love the resort and will continue to stay here on a regular basis. It’s weaknesses are the somewhat dated rooms, and transportation. Bus service is actually better than you’d think here, but there are 5 stops so it can still be a pain. It was nice to have the boats to DS back this trip. The QS options are limited here, but Olivia’s is good and so is gurgling suitcase.

This was our first stay at Riviera. There’s a lot to like about the place. The rooms are very well done, skyliner transportation to two parks is a huge plus, as is only having one bus stop. I actually liked the compact size. The small lobby doesn’t seem to bother me as much as it does others. If I’m being honest I don’t pay that much attention to hotel lobbies that aren’t WL or AKL. The lobby at riviera is small but functions as intended. There are no restaurants attached or large shops, so it’s not as crucial to have a large space here as it is at say the poly or grand. The feature pool here is a dud. My least favorite I’ve been too. The quiet pool however is my favorite one on property. I do agree with those who complain about the weak theming here. It definitely isn’t on par with some of the other deluxe resorts on property(or the Italian riviera themed hotel down the road at universal). I really liked the pool bar here, as well as the QS location. We would definitely stay here again, but the price/points charts here will make it less likely to happen.

Parks- The parks are a mixed bag. Sometimes things felt “normal”, and we’d just briefly forget we were at the parks during a global pandemic. Other times you could tell that CMs were burned out. We never had any particularly negative cast interactions though. There were lots of issues with ride breakdowns this trip, and general park maintenance just seems to be not great at the moment. Maybe I should cut them some slack because of staffing/Covid/whatever, but they didn’t cut me any slack on the cost to visit. Whatever the issue is they need to figure something out. DHS and DAK both still need more attractions too. Epcot makeover is moving way too slow. I hate having to navigate the front of that place.

Of course the biggest new addition to the parks is genie +. We didn’t use it and had no issues getting on every attraction we wanted. We were there a week though. Had we been on a shorter schedule things might’ve been different. If you’re staying on site at a deluxe I’d recommend just taking advantage Of the extra park time offered. I touched on my biggest issue with genie + earlier in the TR. Why are they charging $15 per person for something that appears to be worse than the product that it replaced, which was “free”? The continuous added costs with less perks is starting to get old. With the removal of DME I don’t see much benefit to staying on site now.

We still managed to have a good time, but I couldn’t help but try and see things from a first timers POV, and they weren’t great. We’ll continue to visit and have fun, but the urge to go back just isn’t as strong as it once was.

Thanks everyone for following along. I hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed living it. Our next planned trip will be may 1-7. Which will be here before we know it!
Miss You Goodbye GIF by Mickey Mouse
 

Loco_driver

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Aww dang. Wishing you both a quick and easy recovery.
Thanks, so far so good!
Wonder what was going on with the guy in the kilt? Nothing wrong with it, but seems a little strange for a theme park.

Hope you and A recover from the Omicron quickly.
It was the last day of his trip and he was out of options. Thanks for the well wishes!
Sorry yall caught the covid. I kept up my tradition of getting sick after my Disney trip. My covid test came back negative so it was more than likely RSV. Still coughing from that. I hope yall can get back to normal lives sooner than later. My husband and I can happily spend weeks at home - until we're forced to. Then we want to become social butterflies LOL.
Haha were the same way! I stay at home all the time, but now all I can think about is leaving!
And wishing you both a safe recovery! Here also awaiting Day 5 after attending a wedding... hoping it won't be anything but I already pre-isolated myself just to be sure.. :depressed:
Oh no. Have you had any symptoms? I’m doing ok now just this stupid sore throat hanging around.
Don't flatter yourself - just before this pic there was a gust of wind and kilt boy showed off his bangers and mash


(and i hope you have a speedy recovery)


Max
I have some things to add, but I don’t wanna get put on the naughty list. Thanks for the well wishes. Stay warm!
Ugh so sorry you got sick! It's coming for all of us, it seems :cautious: We're supposed to leave this coming Monday and I'm not going to believe it's happening until we step foot in our first park. Between sickness and flight insanity, I feel like there's only a 30% chance we'll actually make it there...
It seems to be running through our area pretty quickly. Everyone I know that has had it this round has had a mild case thankfully. Hope you guys get to go and have a great time. I’ll be following along!
 

Wicked Sisters

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Thanks for sharing you wonderful adventure with us. Already looking forward your May TR. Pleased to hear you are both recovering well. We are both retired so are able to reasonably stay safe just doing walks in the village. Looking forward to a coastal holiday in September although it was supposed to be Florida.
 

amjt660

Well-Known Member
Amazing TR as usually - you keep raising the bar with each report

I appreciate your summary - for me going to Disney (or anywhere else that has a premium cost associated with it) has always been about value
Do I know it is crazy expensive? Yes
Do I think I received good value for my dollar in the past ? Yes, for the most part -that is why I kept going back
Do I think I will feel the same after my next (not yet even planned) trip? - jury is out - time will tell!

Get well and stay Loco!!!


Max
 

Loco_driver

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Original Poster
Thanks for sharing you wonderful adventure with us. Already looking forward your May TR. Pleased to hear you are both recovering well. We are both retired so are able to reasonably stay safe just doing walks in the village. Looking forward to a coastal holiday in September although it was supposed to be Florida.
Here’s hoping you can get to Florida again some day. It seems bad right now but I still think we’re headed in the right direction.
You know how we missed each other by a week?
Your next trip it will be by a day!
Will I be a day early or a day late?
Amazing TR as usually - you keep raising the bar with each report

I appreciate your summary - for me going to Disney (or anywhere else that has a premium cost associated with it) has always been about value
Do I know it is crazy expensive? Yes
Do I think I received good value for my dollar in the past ? Yes, for the most part -that is why I kept going back
Do I think I will feel the same after my next (not yet even planned) trip? - jury is out - time will tell!

Get well and stay Loco!!!


Max
Thanks Max! I know I come across as being harsh sometimes, but the face that were going back should say something!
that sounds like the start of a negotiation....

who is going to change their plans by only 1 day!!!

Going to make some popcorn for this one


Max
One of us lives twice as close to WDW than the other. Just saying! 😉
 

Loco_driver

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Original Poster
Sorry to hear you guys got sick, but good to hear it wasn't too bad and you're on the mend!
Thank you!

Of course, that’s the part of the trip that’s more difficult to change.


Not sure about Tu but..

Depending on where you are in Texas we might have a similar drive

2100 km for me
That is 1305 miles

Max

You’ve got me by a little.

970 miles from our driveway to the entrance on western way.

If I remember correctly that’s 1561 KM(970 x 1.609)
 

erstwo

Well-Known Member
Loved reading this trip report! Thank you for sharing! So sorry I started a whole thing about the trees in Texas - I guess what I really meant is a lot of people picture cowboys on prairie land 😂 when you mention Texas.... And I also may have started the cheese thing too, so I'll see myself out now. Wishing you a speedy recovery and many more happy, healthy trips to WDW!
 

Loco_driver

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Loved reading this trip report! Thank you for sharing! So sorry I started a whole thing about the trees in Texas - I guess what I really meant is a lot of people picture cowboys on prairie land 😂 when you mention Texas.... And I also may have started the cheese thing too, so I'll see myself out now. Wishing you a speedy recovery and many more happy, healthy trips to WDW!
Haha I’m glad you enjoyed. I rather liked the extra conversations. You learn something new every day!
 

Wicked Sisters

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
We are hoping to get back in 2023 as we had to cancel partly because I have just been diagnosed with a genetic heart condition I didn’t know I had and when everything is sorted out we can enjoy WDW as we used to and hopefully everything back to normal. That is why we so enjoy reading all your TRs and we are getting so much info on restaurants and new rides. Thanks again.😀
 

ShookieJones

We need time for things to happen.
Final thoughts.

I always have trouble with this part. I think this one is especially tough. I’m going to give it my best shot. Enjoy my ramblings.

Hotels- We stayed at OKW and Riviera. OKW’s strength is its overall laid back vibe. This is carried out by both CMs and guests. We love the resort and will continue to stay here on a regular basis. It’s weaknesses are the somewhat dated rooms, and transportation. Bus service is actually better than you’d think here, but there are 5 stops so it can still be a pain. It was nice to have the boats to DS back this trip. The QS options are limited here, but Olivia’s is good and so is gurgling suitcase.

This was our first stay at Riviera. There’s a lot to like about the place. The rooms are very well done, skyliner transportation to two parks is a huge plus, as is only having one bus stop. I actually liked the compact size. The small lobby doesn’t seem to bother me as much as it does others. If I’m being honest I don’t pay that much attention to hotel lobbies that aren’t WL or AKL. The lobby at riviera is small but functions as intended. There are no restaurants attached or large shops, so it’s not as crucial to have a large space here as it is at say the poly or grand. The feature pool here is a dud. My least favorite I’ve been too. The quiet pool however is my favorite one on property. I do agree with those who complain about the weak theming here. It definitely isn’t on par with some of the other deluxe resorts on property(or the Italian riviera themed hotel down the road at universal). I really liked the pool bar here, as well as the QS location. We would definitely stay here again, but the price/points charts here will make it less likely to happen.

Parks- The parks are a mixed bag. Sometimes things felt “normal”, and we’d just briefly forget we were at the parks during a global pandemic. Other times you could tell that CMs were burned out. We never had any particularly negative cast interactions though. There were lots of issues with ride breakdowns this trip, and general park maintenance just seems to be not great at the moment. Maybe I should cut them some slack because of staffing/Covid/whatever, but they didn’t cut me any slack on the cost to visit. Whatever the issue is they need to figure something out. DHS and DAK both still need more attractions too. Epcot makeover is moving way too slow. I hate having to navigate the front of that place.

Of course the biggest new addition to the parks is genie +. We didn’t use it and had no issues getting on every attraction we wanted. We were there a week though. Had we been on a shorter schedule things might’ve been different. If you’re staying on site at a deluxe I’d recommend just taking advantage Of the extra park time offered. I touched on my biggest issue with genie + earlier in the TR. Why are they charging $15 per person for something that appears to be worse than the product that it replaced, which was “free”? The continuous added costs with less perks is starting to get old. With the removal of DME I don’t see much benefit to staying on site now.

We still managed to have a good time, but I couldn’t help but try and see things from a first timers POV, and they weren’t great. We’ll continue to visit and have fun, but the urge to go back just isn’t as strong as it once was.

Thanks everyone for following along. I hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed living it. Our next planned trip will be may 1-7. Which will be here before we know it!
Miss You Goodbye GIF by Mickey Mouse
Thanks for a great TR @Loco_driver
Entertaining as always.

I am glad to hear you and @Tuvalu both didn't use Genie+ and still got on everything.

The thing I am wondering is you both were able to take advantage of the xtra hours for Deluxe resort guests,
Do you feel that was a factor in NOT having to use Genie+ or not?

Although I was a huge fan of MaxPass when I was at DLR that was a bit of different animal and included photopass.
It was worth every penny.

My plan for our May trip is to NOT use Genie+ if possible
DEFINITELY NOT use the Individual attraction passes.
Basically if I could enjoy my vacation and make Genie+ a failure for old Chappie that would be perfect.


ANYWAY - Thanks so much for sharing and hope you the Missus feel better soon.
 

Loco_driver

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Thanks for a great TR @Loco_driver
Entertaining as always.

I am glad to hear you and @Tuvalu both didn't use Genie+ and still got on everything.

The thing I am wondering is you both were able to take advantage of the xtra hours for Deluxe resort guests,
Do you feel that was a factor in NOT having to use Genie+ or not?

Although I was a huge fan of MaxPass when I was at DLR that was a bit of different animal and included photopass.
It was worth every penny.

My plan for our May trip is to NOT use Genie+ if possible
DEFINITELY NOT use the Individual attraction passes.
Basically if I could enjoy my vacation and make Genie+ a failure for old Chappie that would be perfect.


ANYWAY - Thanks so much for sharing and hope you the Missus feel better soon.
We got on every attraction we wanted without the extra hours, they were just a really nice bonus. If you take advantage of early entry and plan your days well, you should have no problems.
 

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