Is Tomorrowland dated to you?

HouCuseChickie

HouCuseChickie

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OK- I haven't been going since the 70s, but I have been going since the 80s and even then, Tomorrowland never felt modern to me. It always had this sort of retro cool vibe in my opinion. In fact, after seeing Tomorrowland and EPCOT Future World as a kid...I guess I just figured that was the intention. i.e. that Future World was where I should expect to see the highly futuristic inventive attractions and that Tomorrowland wasn't to be so literal.
 
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mahnamahna101

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There's four major things that need to be cut from MK's Tomorrowland before it's up to snuff:

  1. Demo the Speedway for a Wreck-it Ralph E-ticket - Hero's Duty for Tomorrowland and Sugar Rush for Fantasyland
  2. Replace Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor with an actually futuristic show (Laugh Floor would be great for Pixar Place)
  3. Replace Buzz since Toy Story Midway Mania is the more popular of the two anyways
  4. Replace Stitch with ANYTHING!
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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HouCuseChickie said:
OK- I haven't been going since the 70s, but I have been going since the 80s and even then, Tomorrowland never felt modern to me. It always had this sort of retro cool vibe in my opinion. In fact, after seeing Tomorrowland and EPCOT Future World as a kid...I guess I just figured that was the intention. i.e. that Future World was where I should expect to see the highly futuristic inventive attractions and that Tomorrowland wasn't to be so literal.
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Exacly right! I've only known TL since it was almost a decade old. It didn't feel like a super-realistic vision of the future. Except for the PeopleMover, which Disney was going to install everywhere the way they had done in Houston airport already. ;)

TL felt as realistic a vision of the future as Adventureland was a realistic portrayal of the Third World, or Min Street of turn of the century America. TL ws fantasy mixed with reality, a certain Disneyfied way of seeing things. Space Mountain felt as natural to TL as talking birds felt to a portrayal of the South Pacific.

Even the architecture felt a bit pop, a bit futuristi for effect, the way the MS buildings are a little bit too cute, too neat to be realistic. It is Disney. But it was not cartoony. TL was not about IPs, it was about mostly a TL on the move, by airplane, by spaceship (times three), by car, by cablecar, by submarine (almost), by peoplemover. Even the CircleVision took you places, the way you visited the Moon/Mars and Yucatan.

TL felt very natural, struck a tone similar to the ones o the other lands, who had each a slightly diferent but roughly similar balance between real and fantasy.

FW was very different. It differed from TL the way DAK differs from Adventureland.
 
TubaGeek

TubaGeek

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It's important to remember that the theme of Tomorrowland is something along the lines of "The Future that Never Was is Now" (I'm sure someone here knows the exact description). Meaning that it's supposed to allow for some Jules Verne future and some Flash Gordon future, and leave the REAL WORLD future to Future World at Epcot.
That said, there's still no rhyme or reason for Stitch (which takes place in the PAST), MILF, CoP, or the terrible Speedway to be there. Though Speedway and CoP could be fixed with sufficient refurbs.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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bubbles1812 said:
Wait a second... You would be ok with attractions based on a property Disney bought and didn't originally create? Well now I've seen everything...

(Tron could be cool. I would be ok with Tron. And I agree that Treasure Planet is underrated but not sure I want or need to see a ride based on it.)
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The reason I added Star Wars is because Iger stupidly bought it, and there's no way to un-buy it. I'd be "ok" if it never appeared in the parks at all. But it's already in DHS, and there's probably going to be an expansion of some kind. If Tomorrowland went futuristic sci-fi, then that's where Star Wars would best be used...I guess.
 
Goofnut1980

Goofnut1980

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Does anyone know when the parks started generalizing the merchandise in the locations. I do remember when each shop was a little different. You could only get christmas decor at the Ye Olde Shop in Liberty Square or at 365... But now each shop sells it. I think it really keeps you from visiting every shop and missing things because most of the merch is the same property-wide.

My feel on Tomorrowland is this, I feel it does have it's own classic feel. However, either continue the red lighting in the entire land to bring it all together, or take it out. Pick one.. LOL.

I like the attractions but the Speedway needs to go and make TL expand in that direction with a new attraction. All of those fumes are not good for the planet.
 
Redsky89

Redsky89

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mahnamahna101 said:
There's four major things that need to be cut from MK's Tomorrowland before it's up to snuff:

  1. Demo the Speedway for a Wreck-it Ralph E-ticket - Hero's Duty for Tomorrowland and Sugar Rush for Fantasyland
  2. Replace Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor with an actually futuristic show (Laugh Floor would be great for Pixar Place)
  3. Replace Buzz since Toy Story Midway Mania is the more popular of the two anyways
  4. Replace Stitch with ANYTHING!
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Im not sure about getting rid of the Buzz ride. But other then that I agree with everything else!
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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mahnamahna101 said:
There's four major things that need to be cut from MK's Tomorrowland before it's up to snuff:

  1. Demo the Speedway for a Wreck-it Ralph E-ticket - Hero's Duty for Tomorrowland and Sugar Rush for Fantasyland
  2. Replace Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor with an actually futuristic show (Laugh Floor would be great for Pixar Place)
  3. Replace Buzz since Toy Story Midway Mania is the more popular of the two anyways
  4. Replace Stitch with ANYTHING!
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I've been advocating for a Sugar Rush ride, so I agree with you there. And Hero's Duty for Tomorrowland is an interesting idea, especially if the Land goes sci-fi (instead of being a showcase for future technology, as Walt originally envisioned for it. Sadly, that approach is likely dead. Times have changed, and the Disney company is a lesser entity than it was under Walt's rule, at least as far as innovation is concerned).

I happen to like Laugh Floor a lot, but I agree it's in the wrong place. Not sure how I feel about Buzz leaving - the ride isn't a bad fit for Tomorrowland IMO. As for Stitch YES YES YES MAKE IT GO AWAY!!! A horrible attraction! It does have a sci-fi theme but it's no fun at all. A Treasure Planet attraction would be more fitting...but since that film bombed, an attraction will never happen, too bad.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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The area would look better if they had done the whole thing and not given up half-way through for budgetary reasons. Kinda like the half-New Fantasyland we have now. The white geometeric structures don't blend with the metallic look no matter what colour you paint them.

Discoveryland is the best looking "Tomorrowland" IMO.
 
Spike-in-Berlin

Spike-in-Berlin

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Yes. An attraction around simple mini-cars (nothing even remotely futuristic about them or the entire ride) driving around a boring and completely unthemed "racing track" at a speed slightly above fast walking speed takes up about roughly one quarter of the entire land squarefootage. And I really don't get the futuristic message in a show of monster comedians from a parallel universe, although the show is at least entertaining.
Of course the entire plot of SGE is very futuristic, in this case only the show is catastrophic. And COP seems to be already dated one week after the last unsuccessful try to save the main storyline be placing the last scene in our time but leaving all the others unchanged. The only major attraction where everything seems to fit in is Space Mountain, but SM has a very dated and bumpy track, it is the only ride in WDW where I am actually a little scared. So the only not-dated and fitting ride seems to be BLSRS.
Yes I consider TL very dated.
 
AllydoesDisney

AllydoesDisney

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mahnamahna101 said:
There's four major things that need to be cut from MK's Tomorrowland before it's up to snuff:

  1. Demo the Speedway for a Wreck-it Ralph E-ticket - Hero's Duty for Tomorrowland and Sugar Rush for Fantasyland
  2. Replace Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor with an actually futuristic show (Laugh Floor would be great for Pixar Place)
  3. Replace Buzz since Toy Story Midway Mania is the more popular of the two anyways
  4. Replace Stitch with ANYTHING!
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I like these ideas, especially Wreck it Ralph. But I love Monsters Inc. If its in Pixar Place that's okay. What would they replace Buzz with? I do love that ride.
 
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mahnamahna101

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AllydoesDisney said:
I like these ideas, especially Wreck it Ralph. But I love Monsters Inc. If its in Pixar Place that's okay. What would they replace Buzz with? I do love that ride.
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TSMM is too similar to Buzz for both to be Toy Story-themed.

Buzz could be replaced by Big Hero 6. Replace Stitch with TRON. Space Mountain gets a nice facelift/upgrade. Carousel of Progress and Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor are relocated to EPCOT and Hollywood Studios respectively. The PeopleMover gets an enhancement. In CoP and MILF's place, low-key futuristic attractions based on original IPs will open (enhanced CircleVision comeback for MILF, a House of the Future-style show that is an idealistic "Walt Disney" future for CoP rather than the Future World one). Bring back former establishments. Implode the Speedway and put the Wreck-it Ralph E-ticket in its place.

That would be a better Tomorrowland than we have currently. Granted a non-IP based sci-fi area would be cooler but I realize that this would be highly unrealistic.

Throw in a Fire Mountain E-ticket in Adventureland, a Frozen mini-land with an E-ticket past the berm, a B&TB dark ride to truly finish its area, Wonderland replacing Storybook Circus, and enhancements to Big Thunder and Splash... I might consider paying over $100 to visit the MK
 
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mahnamahna101

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Magenta Panther said:
I've been advocating for a Sugar Rush ride, so I agree with you there. And Hero's Duty for Tomorrowland is an interesting idea, especially if the Land goes sci-fi (instead of being a showcase for future technology, as Walt originally envisioned for it. Sadly, that approach is likely dead. Times have changed, and the Disney company is a lesser entity than it was under Walt's rule, at least as far as innovation is concerned).

I happen to like Laugh Floor a lot, but I agree it's in the wrong place. Not sure how I feel about Buzz leaving - the ride isn't a bad fit for Tomorrowland IMO. As for Stitch YES YES YES MAKE IT GO AWAY!!! A horrible attraction! It does have a sci-fi theme but it's no fun at all. A Treasure Planet attraction would be more fitting...but since that film bombed, an attraction will never happen, too bad.
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If Toy Story didn't have a shoot 'em up dark ride in Pixar Place, I wouldn't find Buzz. But it's okay to stay since it very likely fits the theme that an updated Tomorrowland would need
 
Communicore

Communicore

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The 1994 Tomorrowland, while nostalgic to me since I became a CM when it first opened, kind of sucks now. I prefer the 70's version.
 

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