Is Tokyo's new Space Mountain a sign of reimagining for DL?

DavidDL

DavidDL

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Space Mountain's design is one of my absolute favorites across the parks. While a part of me would be absolutely devastated to see it go, I can't deny that a design like this is arguably more Space Mountain than Space Mountain's. Since what we currently have is more Space "Station", than mountain if you get right down to it. Love it either way.

What's more important to me is the attraction on the inside. As long as whatever coaster the finished product ends up housing is more akin to classic Space and not another inferior Star Wars overlay, then I'm good.
 
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PiratesMansion

PiratesMansion

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Dear Prudence said:
has Hell frozen over?! o_O:eek: Tokyo is actually changing something?!
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Tokyo isn't averse to changing things if it feels it has a reason to do so (flagging popularity, necessary rebuild, etc). What they DON'T do is plussing just for the sake of plussing. They're not going to update the hitchhiking ghosts just because, but if adding Stitch to the Tiki Room is going to be what gets people to care about the show again, than that's what they'll do.

But the rate at which they've been updating or changing things has started to slowly increase over the last decade. They redid PPF to be closer to DL's sometimes in the '10's, changed out Star Tours for 2.0, updated Jungle Cruise with differentiated day and night experiences, and added characters to IASW (which I believe was also part of a massive rebuild). Space Mountain actually had something of a soft reboot in the late 00's too.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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SweetDuffy101 said:
Well, There is a theory that they butted heads during the first D23, When theybpitched Carsland at Rivers of America and Pandora in DisneySea.

and OLC said. No. and went with New Fantasyland.
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Perhaps…

But the Japanese aren’t stupid…they know what big shot Bobby’s goal was there: a free ride.

Here’s what’s going on stateside:

Almost nothing…actually. After underdelivering on 3 minilands in Orlando of late and two in Anaheim.
 
PiratesMansion

PiratesMansion

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DrAlice said:
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It's still better than WDW's Under New Management show, not that it's a particularly high bar to clear.

The Stitch animatronic is pretty good, and one of the host birds is distinguishable from the others for being-GASP-A WOMAN!!!! But that's about all that's notable about it.

But they haven't shown the original show in Tokyo since the late 90's. At some point I need to watch their OG Tiki replacement show, Get the Fever, and see if it was the ONE replacement show worth anything.
 
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D.Silentu

D.Silentu

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I don't think that this reimagining will have any impact on Disneyland's Space Mountain at all and that's very disappointing. I'm not shy when it comes to feeling that Space Mountain, post 2005, lost its magic. Begging the pardon of those familiar with my soapbox speech, the short version is that the original mountain had real character. In this version, you either fly by stars or Star Wars and that's about it. During that fated refurbishment the press release promised that we would fly through an environment inspired by images from the Hubble Telescope. For reasons unknown that never happened, but it sounds like Japan is going down a similar path:

"The new Tomorrowland plaza will express the connection between Earth and the universe,
representing an image of a future where humans are in harmony with nature."

This quote from the Japanese presser talks about the exterior, but I imagine its philosophy will apply to the interior as well. We are well past due for a similar revision to our mountain. The queue features dim claustrophobic corridors, naked welds and 'windows' that are mere photographs. The roller coaster portion of the ride is thrilling, but with the exception of the beginning and the end you're speeding through a void. Disney can do better! I want to see something! To that point I'm extremely curious as to how Cosmic Rewind handles visuals on a roller coaster that is meant to be a space ship. Perhaps there are lessons there that can preserve the darkness that masks the track while simultaneously providing points of visual interest.

Couldn't we discover galaxies, comets, black holes and supernova? There needn't be any story, nor should we be in any kind of conflict. Just a journey through the universe and back. The attraction's exterior needs no alteration, just a good scrub. Before The Indiana Jones Adventure opened, Space Mountain was the king of the E-Tickets. Home video transfers to youtube can't capture the experience that the original ride presented, mainly due to the dark lighting. However, it really was one of a kind, especially when compared to the homogenous starfield that we travel through these days. In a few years Japan is going to get such an experience and all I can do is wish on the stars that our mountain would follow suit.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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D.Silentu said:
I don't think that this reimagining will have any impact on Disneyland's Space Mountain at all and that's very disappointing. I'm not shy when it comes to feeling that Space Mountain, post 2005, lost its magic. Begging the pardon of those familiar with my soapbox speech, the short version is that the original mountain had real character. In this version, you either fly by stars or Star Wars and that's about it. During that fated refurbishment the press release promised that we would fly through an environment inspired by images from the Hubble Telescope. For reasons unknown that never happened, but it sounds like Japan is going down a similar path:

"The new Tomorrowland plaza will express the connection between Earth and the universe,
representing an image of a future where humans are in harmony with nature."

This quote from the Japanese presser talks about the exterior, but I imagine its philosophy will apply to the interior as well. We are well past due for a similar revision to our mountain. The queue features dim claustrophobic corridors, naked welds and 'windows' that are mere photographs. The roller coaster portion of the ride is thrilling, but with the exception of the beginning and the end you're speeding through a void. Disney can do better! I want to see something! To that point I'm extremely curious as to how Cosmic Rewind handles visuals on a roller coaster that is meant to be a space ship. Perhaps there are lessons there that can preserve the darkness that masks the track while simultaneously providing points of visual interest.

Couldn't we discover galaxies, comets, black holes and supernova? There needn't be any story, nor should we be in any kind of conflict. Just a journey through the universe and back. The attraction's exterior needs no alteration, just a good scrub. Before The Indiana Jones Adventure opened, Space Mountain was the king of the E-Tickets. Home video transfers to youtube can't capture the experience that the original ride presented, mainly due to the dark lighting. However, it really was one of a kind, especially when compared to the homogenous starfield that we travel through these days. In a few years Japan is going to get such an experience and all I can do is wish on the stars that our mountain would follow suit.
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Can you remind me of what visuals we had on the pre 2005 Space Mountain? I definitely remember the queue being cooler with the see through windows and more of those cool other worldly ambient sounds that I rarely ever hear anymore because I only ride Space Mountain with FP
 
britain

britain

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D.Silentu said:
I don't think that this reimagining will have any impact on Disneyland's Space Mountain at all and that's very disappointing. I'm not shy when it comes to feeling that Space Mountain, post 2005, lost its magic. Begging the pardon of those familiar with my soapbox speech, the short version is that the original mountain had real character. In this version, you either fly by stars or Star Wars and that's about it. During that fated refurbishment the press release promised that we would fly through an environment inspired by images from the Hubble Telescope. For reasons unknown that never happened, but it sounds like Japan is going down a similar path:

"The new Tomorrowland plaza will express the connection between Earth and the universe,
representing an image of a future where humans are in harmony with nature."

This quote from the Japanese presser talks about the exterior, but I imagine its philosophy will apply to the interior as well. We are well past due for a similar revision to our mountain. The queue features dim claustrophobic corridors, naked welds and 'windows' that are mere photographs. The roller coaster portion of the ride is thrilling, but with the exception of the beginning and the end you're speeding through a void. Disney can do better! I want to see something! To that point I'm extremely curious as to how Cosmic Rewind handles visuals on a roller coaster that is meant to be a space ship. Perhaps there are lessons there that can preserve the darkness that masks the track while simultaneously providing points of visual interest.

Couldn't we discover galaxies, comets, black holes and supernova? There needn't be any story, nor should we be in any kind of conflict. Just a journey through the universe and back. The attraction's exterior needs no alteration, just a good scrub. Before The Indiana Jones Adventure opened, Space Mountain was the king of the E-Tickets. Home video transfers to youtube can't capture the experience that the original ride presented, mainly due to the dark lighting. However, it really was one of a kind, especially when compared to the homogenous starfield that we travel through these days. In a few years Japan is going to get such an experience and all I can do is wish on the stars that our mountain would follow suit.
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I suspect there are going to be plenty of effects besides stars. Disney has been on a roller coaster in the dark+projections kick lately. This is Japan’s turn to get in on it.
 
CaptinEO

CaptinEO

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D.Silentu said:
I don't think that this reimagining will have any impact on Disneyland's Space Mountain at all and that's very disappointing. I'm not shy when it comes to feeling that Space Mountain, post 2005, lost its magic. Begging the pardon of those familiar with my soapbox speech, the short version is that the original mountain had real character. In this version, you either fly by stars or Star Wars and that's about it. During that fated refurbishment the press release promised that we would fly through an environment inspired by images from the Hubble Telescope. For reasons unknown that never happened, but it sounds like Japan is going down a similar path:

"The new Tomorrowland plaza will express the connection between Earth and the universe,
representing an image of a future where humans are in harmony with nature."

This quote from the Japanese presser talks about the exterior, but I imagine its philosophy will apply to the interior as well. We are well past due for a similar revision to our mountain. The queue features dim claustrophobic corridors, naked welds and 'windows' that are mere photographs. The roller coaster portion of the ride is thrilling, but with the exception of the beginning and the end you're speeding through a void. Disney can do better! I want to see something! To that point I'm extremely curious as to how Cosmic Rewind handles visuals on a roller coaster that is meant to be a space ship. Perhaps there are lessons there that can preserve the darkness that masks the track while simultaneously providing points of visual interest.

Couldn't we discover galaxies, comets, black holes and supernova? There needn't be any story, nor should we be in any kind of conflict. Just a journey through the universe and back. The attraction's exterior needs no alteration, just a good scrub. Before The Indiana Jones Adventure opened, Space Mountain was the king of the E-Tickets. Home video transfers to youtube can't capture the experience that the original ride presented, mainly due to the dark lighting. However, it really was one of a kind, especially when compared to the homogenous starfield that we travel through these days. In a few years Japan is going to get such an experience and all I can do is wish on the stars that our mountain would follow suit.
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It's weird how with the 2005 version they built a giant asteroid and a small track to move it but never used it. Sometimes if the projections are too bright you can see it (it's on the left at the start of the lift hill, right after the tunnel).

Original Space Mountain I barely remember but I recall there was a glowing red orb you saw when going up the lift and how the other cars moving through the ride would glow red.

I wonder why they got rid of the glowing rockets? At least Disney World's Space Mountain is still cool and has character to it (and glowing rockets).
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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CaptinEO said:
It's weird how with the 2005 version they built a giant asteroid and a small track to move it but never used it. Sometimes if the projections are too bright you can see it (it's on the left at the start of the lift hill, right after the tunnel).

Original Space Mountain I barely remember but I recall there was a glowing red orb you saw when going up the lift and how the other cars moving through the ride would glow red.

I wonder why they got rid of the glowing rockets? At least Disney World's Space Mountain is still cool and has character to it (and glowing rockets).
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