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EPCOT Is the End of Innoventions Near?

flynnibus

Premium Member
It’s close.

Instead of something engaging and suitable, knock it down and build another bar. Speaks volumes.

I'm not positive on what the future is yet.... but we do know the past wasn't coming back. That's why I'm pro-"clean the slate". I'm of the opinion the bones were part of the problem with Disney failing to move forward
 

mikejs78

Well-Known Member
It’s close.

Instead of something engaging and suitable, knock it down and build another bar. Speaks volumes.
I'd honestly be OK with them building a bar if there was more substance being built as well... But it seems like it is just a new festival center, a bar, and some trees. There's that whole center of the park that will be devoid of any kind of substenative content.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I'm not positive on what the future is yet.... but we do know the past wasn't coming back. That's why I'm pro-"clean the slate". I'm of the opinion the bones were part of the problem with Disney failing to move forward
I’m of the opinion they didn’t have a clue and still don’t.

Cleaning the slate for a bar and a waterfall is not progress.
 

DisneyDreamerxyz

Well-Known Member
To what benefit though? So disney could sell more fake nostalgia ties?

What you outline is all true... and stuff disney could have done anything in the last 15yrs... but they haven't.

This isn't like tearing out Main Street.

The bones have been part of the drag on change. Set them free...
Working on Main Street as a castmember is no fun. Those spaces were built in 1971 and have never been updated or expanded. You should see how small the kitchen in the confectionery is...like a closet. But would they ever tear down the building...nah. I guess it's "historical".
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I’m of the opinion they didn’t have a clue and still don’t.

Cleaning the slate for a bar and a waterfall is not progress.

I look at it like the cleared city lot for future development... rather than the abandoned derelict building everyone has to walk past and pretend not to see.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
But this one is set. That’s the problem.

But building on a former garden is a hell of a lot easier than building where massive concrete bunkers sit.

I don't yearn for what they've advertised to date.... but it's one step closer to some other future than we had before.

I 110% had given up on Disney doing anything of substance in the former buildings... so they were just an excuse NOT to do something radically different. At least that hurdle will be gone
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
But building on a former garden is a hell of a lot easier than building where massive concrete bunkers sit.

I don't yearn for what they've advertised to date.... but it's one step closer to some other future than we had before.

I 110% had given up on Disney doing anything of substance in the former buildings... so they were just an excuse NOT to do something radically different. At least that hurdle will be gone
They’re building a BAR for petes sake.

Honestly, if anyone thinks this is a great idea let me know so I can put you on ignore.

I’d rather they left the building as it was until someone with a bit of imagination had some influence.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I was asked to get the pencils out. This is an rough example of what the real prize was like:

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Timothy_Q

Well-Known Member
See the sketch I posted. There were other options. But they chose the easy one.
Actual question, not trying to be sarcastic.

How is demoing half of CC and redoing all of it the easy option?
Why did they not choose to reuse the current buildings. To me that seems like the easier and cheaper option

What was the deciding factor on this?
 

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