Rumor Is the End of Innoventions Near?

Kidblacksmith

New Member
It was a quiet but emotional farewell. The only people in there were just my mom and I and a CM standing guard at the door, that’s all. The Innoventions loop playing softly over the speaker, as I softly say “Well, I guess that’s it.” My voice echoed the corridor as I looked back and headed for the exit.

“Do you guys have a lot memories in here?” the Cast Member had said.

I responded with something along the lines of
“Yeah, you could say that. She’s been walking this hall for over 30 years, me about ten.”

The Cast Member responded with “Yeah, I’m sad to see it go too. Have a good night”

And the doors opened for us to leave, and then shut once more, this time for good.
Did you happen to catch the final fountain show? I have a
It was a quiet but emotional farewell. The only people in there were just my mom and I and a CM standing guard at the door, that’s all. The Innoventions loop playing softly over the speaker, as I softly say “Well, I guess that’s it.” My voice echoed the corridor as I looked back and headed for the exit.

“Do you guys have a lot memories in here?” the Cast Member had said.

I responded with something along the lines of
“Yeah, you could say that. She’s been walking this hall for over 30 years, me about ten.”

The Cast Member responded with “Yeah, I’m sad to see it go too. Have a good night”

And the doors opened for us to leave, and then shut once more, this time for good.
Did you or anyone you know happen to catch the final fountain show? I had to leave around 9:30- I live in Winter Garden and needed to be home— but my sorta frenemy who lives in Orlando called me today and he always goes to Epcot events— he had a lot to say about sept 7 like there was almost too much going on to be everywhere at once. I think he skipped the fountain of nations to try to hang around and be last in Communicore
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
Did you happen to catch the final fountain show? I have a

Did you or anyone you know happen to catch the final fountain show? I had to leave around 9:30- I live in Winter Garden and needed to be home— but my sorta frenemy who lives in Orlando called me today and he always goes to Epcot events— he had a lot to say about sept 7 like there was almost too much going on to be everywhere at once. I think he skipped the fountain of nations to try to hang around and be last in Communicore
Unfortunately not. I thought the shows continued up until the park was clear. Waited around about an hour before realizing that there wasn’t gonna be another show.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
I don't know why any of you are even responding to/quoting AJH219 -- he's either a troll or his brain doesn't work. Not because I disagree with his opinions, but because the stuff he says displays a lack of the ability to form any kind of coherent, logical argument.

I have him on ignore.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
I don't know why any of you are even responding to/quoting AJH219 -- he's either a troll or his brain doesn't work. Not because I disagree with his opinions, but because the stuff he says displays a lack of the ability to form any kind of coherent, logical argument.

I have him on ignore.
I joined you. LOL... One my friends stated this... the 1982 rides worked in EPCOT, but would have been out of place in the Magic Kingdom. The current rides would not.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I'm not necessarily in disagreement with that. But they were purposefully understated

The point still stands -- you are discounting people's deeply held connections to the place, refusing to acknowledge the important role the place held, and then call the building ugly. It is not an ugly building. It is a sleek building with an ugly paint job.

Ask yourself seriously: why do people care so deeply about Communicore and EPCOT? Could it be that Communicore and EPCOT have inspired a lot of people and is more than just *deep breath* a THEME PARK?

Maybe if grand central was shuttered and only had some newspaper kiosks in it for a generation... there would be more meat in the analogy and more consistent with why people don't have any attachment to the old.

Disney proved the skeleton of innovations is in part what was holding them back. To me, that's why I can't wait for it to go... to break free from that anchor.

The killing of the old happened long long ago... the shell is not what was worth of saving.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
The buildings are large shells designed to be able to hold a variety of functions. What is replacing them that could not use a large shell? There’s plenty of areas to tear up poorly placed hardscape and replace it with softscape. They’re tall enough to fit multiple levels. The roof could even be reworked and reenforced to support a bar.

To what benefit though? So disney could sell more fake nostalgia ties?

What you outline is all true... and stuff disney could have done anything in the last 15yrs... but they haven't.

This isn't like tearing out Main Street.

The bones have been part of the drag on change. Set them free...
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
It’s close.

Instead of something engaging and suitable, knock it down and build another bar. Speaks volumes.

I'm not positive on what the future is yet.... but we do know the past wasn't coming back. That's why I'm pro-"clean the slate". I'm of the opinion the bones were part of the problem with Disney failing to move forward
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
It’s close.

Instead of something engaging and suitable, knock it down and build another bar. Speaks volumes.
I'd honestly be OK with them building a bar if there was more substance being built as well... But it seems like it is just a new festival center, a bar, and some trees. There's that whole center of the park that will be devoid of any kind of substenative content.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I'm not positive on what the future is yet.... but we do know the past wasn't coming back. That's why I'm pro-"clean the slate". I'm of the opinion the bones were part of the problem with Disney failing to move forward
I’m of the opinion they didn’t have a clue and still don’t.

Cleaning the slate for a bar and a waterfall is not progress.
 

DisneyDreamerxyz

Well-Known Member
To what benefit though? So disney could sell more fake nostalgia ties?

What you outline is all true... and stuff disney could have done anything in the last 15yrs... but they haven't.

This isn't like tearing out Main Street.

The bones have been part of the drag on change. Set them free...
Working on Main Street as a castmember is no fun. Those spaces were built in 1971 and have never been updated or expanded. You should see how small the kitchen in the confectionery is...like a closet. But would they ever tear down the building...nah. I guess it's "historical".
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I’m of the opinion they didn’t have a clue and still don’t.

Cleaning the slate for a bar and a waterfall is not progress.

I look at it like the cleared city lot for future development... rather than the abandoned derelict building everyone has to walk past and pretend not to see.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
But this one is set. That’s the problem.

But building on a former garden is a hell of a lot easier than building where massive concrete bunkers sit.

I don't yearn for what they've advertised to date.... but it's one step closer to some other future than we had before.

I 110% had given up on Disney doing anything of substance in the former buildings... so they were just an excuse NOT to do something radically different. At least that hurdle will be gone
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
But building on a former garden is a hell of a lot easier than building where massive concrete bunkers sit.

I don't yearn for what they've advertised to date.... but it's one step closer to some other future than we had before.

I 110% had given up on Disney doing anything of substance in the former buildings... so they were just an excuse NOT to do something radically different. At least that hurdle will be gone
They’re building a BAR for petes sake.

Honestly, if anyone thinks this is a great idea let me know so I can put you on ignore.

I’d rather they left the building as it was until someone with a bit of imagination had some influence.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I was asked to get the pencils out. This is an rough example of what the real prize was like:

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