Is it just me, or are the Be Our Guest menus NOT appealing at all?

DisneyPan

Active Member
I agree, Wolf359. If they opened another dining joint with burger and chicken nuggets, I would have screamed. I think it's totally appropriate for the theming and personally, I would eat everything on the menu.
Haven't posted in a long time, but I was moved by this thread. Thanks.
 

fredtom

Active Member
I love both the lunch and dinner menus! Can't wait to try it, but will have to wait until next year. BOG won't be open in time for our October-November trip coming soon.


"An Adventurer's life is best!" :)
 

Phonedave

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It sounds like your 13 y/o daughter is a burgeoning foodie, and it's nice to hear that she enjoys trying some interesting dishes on the adults menus. :) And for the younger crowd, perhaps BoG will be a good stepping stone for kids who are interested in expanding their food horizons (but still feel more comfortable with 'normal' fare - chicken breast and pasta with tomato sauce aren't exactly gourmet).

Even the adults menu offers plenty of safe choices, like roast chicken or grilled strip steak. As for me, I can't wait to enjoy those mussels provençal, and probably the salmon or ratatouille as my entree. :D

We don't use that word around this house - foodie. We just enjoy good food. That's just a personal thing. Far from food snobs as well. She also likes Frito Chili Pie.

-dave
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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We don't use that word around this house - foodie. We just enjoy good food. That's just a personal thing. Far from food snobs as well. She also likes Frito Chili Pie.

-dave
No harm meant - I meant it as a complement, since I think it's good that she has an open mind about food. Definitely wasn't trying to imply "food snob" or anything like that.
 

luv

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We don't use that word around this house - foodie. We just enjoy good food. That's just a personal thing. Far from food snobs as well. She also likes Frito Chili Pie.

-dave
Your daughter obviously likes a variety of food, but she is atypical in that regard. On average, most 9yo kids would rather have burgers, hot dogs and chicken nuggets than veggie ravioli in cream sauce.

Can't blame Disney for serving kids the food that most of them like.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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Your daughter obviously likes a variety of food, but she is atypical in that regard. On average, most 9yo kids would rather have burgers, hot dogs and chicken nuggets than veggie ravioli in cream sauce.

Can't blame Disney for serving kids the food that most of them like.
If adults keep saying "kids want burgers, hot dogs, and chicken nuggets", then that's exactly what they'll get (instead of learning to try new foods, see what they like, appreciate vegetables, etc). It's a vicious cycle, and it won't lead to balanced eating habits. In fact, I've been hearing more and more stories about adults who refuse to eat anything besides chicken nuggets, mac n' cheese, mozzarella sticks, etc. It's sad.

And as we all know, Be Our Guest will not be catering to kids who are that picky. Will it hurt business for this restaurant? Not at all. So regardless of whether you're right or not (in saying we "can't blame Disney" for the status of the current kid's menus), I can definitely appreciate that they stepped things up at BOG. :)
 

luv

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If adults keep saying "kids want burgers, hot dogs, and chicken nuggets", then that's exactly what they'll get (instead of learning to try new foods, see what they like, appreciate vegetables, etc). It's a vicious cycle, and it won't lead to balanced eating habits. In fact, I've been hearing more and more stories about adults who refuse to eat anything besides chicken nuggets, mac n' cheese, mozzarella sticks, etc. It's sad.

And as we all know, Be Our Guest will not be catering to kids who are that picky. Will it hurt business for this restaurant? Not at all. So regardless of whether you're right or not (in saying we "can't blame Disney" for the status of the current kid's menus), I can definitely appreciate that they stepped things up at BOG. :)
Adults say it because it is true. Again, your kid is an exception. The typical kid wouldn't order that over a hot dog.

Pasta in cream sauce isn't healthy, either. Not saying your daughter shouldn't enjoy it! I've certainly had MY share! But I wouldn't encourage that over mac n cheese.

It may not be as typical, but it isn't a healthy meal.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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Adults say it because it is true. Again, your kid is an exception. The typical kid wouldn't order that over a hot dog.

Pasta in cream sauce isn't healthy, either. Not saying your daughter shouldn't enjoy it! I've certainly had MY share! But I wouldn't encourage that over mac n cheese.

It may not be as typical, but it isn't a healthy meal.
That's not my daughter, and I know pasta with cream sauce isn't healthy. I'm a different poster who shares a similarly positive opinion regarding the BOG kids menus. ;)

Like I said, Disney knows they can sneak in some healthier alternatives on the BOG kids menus. Families will still be clawing at each other to get a table in there. It's a win-win.
 

luv

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That's not my daughter, and I know pasta with cream sauce isn't healthy. I'm a different poster who shares a similarly positive opinion regarding the BOG kids menus. ;)

Like I said, Disney knows they can sneak in some healthier alternatives on the BOG kids menus. Families will still be clawing at each other to get a table in there. It's a win-win.
Oop, my bad. Bad me. Mea culpa.

I have no problem with BOG. I'm not at all into frou-frou stuff and was delighted when they stopped piling all the food into the center of the plate and sticking a big weed in it. They're now back to regular old frou-frou, which is much easier to deal with. I hated dismantling my food. I think it was too much for most people, which is why they got away from it, lol.

Disney will never serve food that people don't order. I don't expect to see ostrich on the menu any time soon.

I just hope the food is as frou-frou as those who like that want and as good as people think it will be and that it continues for them.

As I said, there are plenty of places to get less frou-frou stuff, if BOG turns out not to be your (my, lol) thing.
 

Weather_Lady

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If adults keep saying "kids want burgers, hot dogs, and chicken nuggets", then that's exactly what they'll get (instead of learning to try new foods, see what they like, appreciate vegetables, etc). It's a vicious cycle, and it won't lead to balanced eating habits. In fact, I've been hearing more and more stories about adults who refuse to eat anything besides chicken nuggets, mac n' cheese, mozzarella sticks, etc. It's sad.

And as we all know, Be Our Guest will not be catering to kids who are that picky. Will it hurt business for this restaurant? Not at all. So regardless of whether you're right or not (in saying we "can't blame Disney" for the status of the current kid's menus), I can definitely appreciate that they stepped things up at BOG. :)

I totally agree! My children love their chicken nuggets and mac-n-cheese as much as anyone. However, they've been reared (as I was -- my mother was a health teacher and a terrific cook) to experience and enjoy a variety of foods, and they do! My 6-year-old son famously asked a restaurant server if he could "please get some broccoli instead of fries," and my 4-year-old daughter's favorite food (second to pasta) is mussels. If you start with the expectation that they will try everything, see food as an adventure, embrace variety, and even LOVE THEIR VEGGIES, they will live up to that expectation -- even more so if they see their parents modeling it.

There are more than enough traditional American "kid food" options to be had on WDW property for those kids who want them. Having a choice of some more diverse or sophisticated options at any location is awesome.
 

luv

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They actually used to serve ostrich at Jiko, California Grill, and possibly other signatures. I remember seeing really good reviews of the Jiko dish.
I'm sure they did. Food, like clothing, goes through fads. Ostrich was on the menu all over the place for a while. But it didn't get ordered a lot and they moved on.

That's why ostrich popped into my head. :)
 

Phonedave

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I totally agree! My children love their chicken nuggets and mac-n-cheese as much as anyone. However, they've been reared (as I was -- my mother was a health teacher and a terrific cook) to experience and enjoy a variety of foods, and they do! My 6-year-old son famously asked a restaurant server if he could "please get some broccoli instead of fries," and my 4-year-old daughter's favorite food (second to pasta) is mussels. If you start with the expectation that they will try everything, see food as an adventure, embrace variety, and even LOVE THEIR VEGGIES, they will live up to that expectation -- even more so if they see their parents modeling it.

There are more than enough traditional American "kid food" options to be had on WDW property for those kids who want them. Having a choice of some more diverse or sophisticated options at any location is awesome.


Exactly.

Not to knock anybody - I have two daughters and a step-daughter - time and money are constraints. Work, hobbites, school, homework, housework, sports, the economy, and everything else eats into time and money. It is a lot easier to swing by McDonalds on the way home from the game, or while helping the kids with homework to throw a pot of mac and cheese mix on the stove and a tray of Perdue pre-made nuggets in the oven, or to call out for some pizza.

But, as you said, if you introduce your kids to good food, they will eat good food. You don't have to make them into food snobs. They don't need to know the difference between farm raised and wild caugh salmon. But serve them real food. Food that does not come from a can or a box. Food that does not make it's own gravy, or "makes a great meal" with the addition of a pound of hamburger.

It really is not that hard to grill some chicken , steam a vegatable, and cook some rice. Or to thow together a stir fry from scratch Heck, even use bullion (well I use base, but the same idea) to strengthen the sauce. Take 10 minutes in the produce section and throw a new vegatable or fruit in the cart. Chances are there is a card somewhere on a display that explains a way to prepare it.

Growing up as a kid, we at at McDonalds twice a year (on the drive back from vacation in Canada). Somehow I made it through childhood without being malnoursihed or deprived. We never had chicken nuggets or mac & cheese when I was a kid either.

-dave
 

Phonedave

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Adults say it because it is true. Again, your kid is an exception. The typical kid wouldn't order that over a hot dog.

Pasta in cream sauce isn't healthy, either. Not saying your daughter shouldn't enjoy it! I've certainly had MY share! But I wouldn't encourage that over mac n cheese.

It may not be as typical, but it isn't a healthy meal.

1) There are quite a few kids that eat that way. More would if they were fed that way at home.

2) It was a vegatable stuffed pasta in a light cream based sauce. I would hazard it was a better choice than mac and cheese from a box (with it's heavy dose of salt, hydroginated oils, saturated fats, and FD&C yellow #5 ). Now mac and cheese made from real cheese, milk, flour, and butter. While not qute healthy, is head and shoulders above the blue box - and tastes better too.
 

Phonedave

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Glad you said that. I was RAISED that way, as my Father was a Maitre'D at several VERY GOOD restaurants in San Francisco, circa 1948 - 1970. Dad was not a snob - like many folks of the era, he had LESS than a High School Education. But the man could COOK - and could show others how :). To this day, I rave about Dad's baby Calimari fried in butter, Olive Oil, with a little Garlic.... Dave, that's BAIT :). But dad made it into a feast... one I simply can NOT find anyplace else.

You are correct - we don't need to exist on Marie Calendar microwave dishes. Our European friends don't, and they have two things we DO NOT have... 1) a general lack of cash, and 2) Very few Fat Children (or Adults). They must be doing something right.

Lobster used to be what the poor fishermen ate becuase they made money selling the "good" catch- shellfish too.

Shrimp used to be poor folks food as well. Catholics used to eat it buy the pound on Fridays before it became expensive and they switched to pizza. Then the Pope said "nah, meat is good all week" and that ended that :)

-dave
 

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