Rumor Is Indiana Jones Planning an Adventure to Disney's Animal Kingdom?

[lazyboy97o]

Well, there's certainly nothing supernatural about a tree with carved animals that come to life every night, or big blue aliens that share intelligence via tree roots and floating seed pods... /sarc

Yes, if you change the meaning of the word then the park is all about the supernatural.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Wait until Comcast gets a load of a United Kingdom B-or-C ride!! Shots fired!!!

I laughed at your witty joke. =D

And yet, WS...a little C-Ticket...these are why Disney beats UNI. Charm, quaintness, tradition, innocence. Wish Disney would understand that those will always trump UNI, which has to be the anti-Disney: loud, in-your-face, aggressive, the latest thing.

 

[Mike S]

It would appear that there are at least two plans of varying levels of investment, including:

1) a complete takeover of Dinand by Indy, with IJA replacing Dinosaur, a minor retheme of the Boneyard, and a new E-Ticket (or 2?) to replace Dinorama (water ride or coaster)
2) Dinorama will be taken over by Indy, and everything else remains

Aside from the fact that Indy is a much better fit at DHS or Magic Kingdom, this concept is another example of what is so frustrating with the modern leadership. Some IP tie-ins are drag and drop; Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is in Fantasyland because it is. There is no attempt to modify the story or setting because the world of the film already fits into the surroundings of the area it sits in. That's not to say that the IP is a retread of its plot; in fact, most of these types of attractions take on an active first person perspective (Star Tours, Mine Train, Tower of Terror).

Others are modified to fit the park they reside in, but the stipulation is that the IP's underlying message must be close enough to the ideals of the park for it to work, or something will feel off. A drag and drop of Avatar would work in DHS, but not in Animal Kingdom, and the current treatment of the franchise works in Animal Kingdom, but would feel out of place in DHS.

When it comes to IP's, drag and drops are generally preferred because the alternative (modification) would mean that there's an original concept that has to be created and then stapled to the IP in order to make it work. In that case, the original concept shouldn't be forced to hold up an IP.

Obviously, Indy COULD be made to work in Animal Kingdom, but it would need to be modified from the Indiana Jones experience that one would typically expect in order to do so. Clearly the creators of Dinosaur thought that Indiana Jones Adventure as it exists wasn't a good fit in Animal Kingdom, or they would have saved some money and plopped down an exact clone where Dinosaur sits now to begin with. Why ruin Animal Kingdom's Tower of Terror, just because the one across the pond is considered by some to be better? This is Guardians of the Tower ALL over again, and I'm not here for it.

Dinosaur is not on the level of Tower of Terror. Not one bit. I've said before that if they ever decided on an update I'd be all in favor of a total tear down and starting fresh. Just keep the fact that what ever is built remains about Dinosaurs.

By Christmas, Universal will have Forbidden Forest coaster under construction at IOA. Fast and Furious, Ministry of Magic, and Super Nintendo World happening at USF. A Hydromagnetic Mammoth water coaster under construction in VB. And 3 hotels going up.

You're joking, right? I've really lost any kind of interest in that concept. I just don't get what they could do with it.

What's the word for someone who quite likes the Indy ride at Disneyland, and kinda likes the Dinosaur ride at DAK, but would be actively embarrassed for all involved if a 20-25-year-old ride got cloned nowadays?

*Raises hand*

Exactly, which makes even more puzzling that Uni fans are utterly panicking over Indy Land.

They are?

 

[Mike S]

I laughed at your witty joke. =D

And yet, WS...a little C-Ticket...these are why Disney beats UNI. Charm, quaintness, tradition, innocence. Wish Disney would understand that those will always trump UNI, which has to be the anti-Disney: loud, in-your-face, aggressive, the latest thing.

Depends on if it's a good C Ticket or a bad one.

 

[jt04]

Dinosaur is not on the level of Tower of Terror. Not one bit. I've said before that if they ever decided on an update I'd be all in favor of a total tear down and starting fresh. Just keep the fact that what ever is built remains about Dinosaurs.

You're joking, right? I've really lost any kind of interest in that concept. I just don't get what they could do with it.

*Raises hand*

They are?

After a decade and a half around these boards I have learned to spot the panic in the Uni fandom.

Uni will be OK.

 

[Mike S]

After a decade and a half around these boards I have learned to spot the panic in the Uni fandom.

Uni will be OK.

I haven't seen any panic unless you're talking about a lack of hype for Fast & Furious.

 

[Dizmentia]

This rumor is amazing.

When I was in high school, I was pen pals with an Imagineer. I actually got to meet him a few times on visits to Walt Disney World and Disneyland. (Reading some of WDW1974's posts on this forum made me realize I was not as special as I thought). Anyway, in 1993 I went to Disneyland in California, and met up with the Imagineer (who was working on Tower of Terror at the time, and now works for Universal) to see Fantasmic. After the show, the crowds were ushered backstage and he told me about the Indiana Jones Adventure. I asked if it would show up in Florida and he said it would be in Disney's Wild Kingdom. He was a big fan of Jurassic Park, and told me about Universal's upcoming water ride. He also mentioned to me that there would be a "Valley of the Dinosaurs" attraction at Disney's Wild Kingdom.

For years, I was under the assumption that Indiana Jones Adventure was coming to what would be known as Animal Kingdom.

When Countdown to Extinction was finally announced (in 1995, I think), it all made sense.

 

[No Name]

The name DisneySea is a play on the name Disneyland. Haha, get it? Someone thought they were funny. The original concept fit the name more, but now, I suppose just as Disneyland isn't about land, DisneySea isn't really about the sea.

You could argue that the theme is does have is vague, and I agree, but the fact that it's a stellar park in only a two-park resort makes that less of an issue. I honestly do not think that a four-park resort can thrive without more distinct themes. Of course there's no example to point to, and I hope WDW doesn't become that example.

 

[Thanks phoenicians]

Ministry of Magic has not been announced yet. But they did announce that this is the last year for Bill & Ted's which is in the Fear Factor Live Theater which is where MoM is going. So we have confirmation something is happening there. But no official announcement about MoM yet. Universal wants to bookend SW:GE with a double whammy of Potter up front and Super Nintendo World at the rear.

Comcast ain't playin'.

Would MIB still be safe though? This is unreal if they get this open by late 2019 imo 2020 or later would be more realistic but stranger things have happened.
Anyway back to IJ is there any chance this goes to DHS?
options from best to worst imo are
1. Full fledged IJ land in DHS
2. A standalone attraction in DHS
3. A complete retheme of dino land to IJ
4. Just retheming Dinosaur

 

[Mike S]

This rumor is amazing.

When I was in high school, I was pen pals with an Imagineer. I actually got to meet him a few times on visits to Walt Disney World and Disneyland. (Reading some of WDW1974's posts on this forum made me realize I was not as special as I thought). Anyway, in 1993 I went to Disneyland in California, and met up with the Imagineer (who was working on Tower of Terror at the time, and now works for Universal) to see Fantasmic. After the show, the crowds were ushered backstage and he told me about the Indiana Jones Adventure. I asked if it would show up in Florida and he said it would be in Disney's Wild Kingdom. He was a big fan of Jurassic Park, and told me about Universal's upcoming water ride. He also mentioned to me that there would be a "Valley of the Dinosaurs" attraction at Disney's Wild Kingdom.

For years, I was under the assumption that Indiana Jones Adventure was coming to what would be known as Animal Kingdom.

When Countdown to Extinction was finally announced (in 1995, I think), it all made sense.

"Valley of the Dinosaurs"

 

[Goob]

So Fresh Baked is saying there could be an Indy hotel, a la Star Wars hotel, to go along with this rumored land. This is the first I've heard of it, unless it was mentioned in here and I just didn't see it. Unlikely though since that would be a pretty tasty rumor.

 

[Monorail_Orange]

As we discuss Indy's appropriateness, what am I missing with Kali River Rapids' appropriateness?

Kali has the conservation of nature angle. When it opened, you started in a "forest" but then moved into an area that was being clear-cut, complete with simulated fires that actually smoked and the sound effects of running chainsaws cutting more. It was supposed to expose you to just how destructive the clear-cutting process can be. My memory is a bit vague, as I haven't ridden it in a very long time (I dont like walking around soaked, and that ride isn't worth it), i also cannot say how many of these effect have been removed or turned off.

 

[2351metalcloud]

A yeti is a fictional animal, Indy is a fictional human.

The Yeti in the Animal Kingdom seems to have interesting thinking abilities for an animal. What would people on here think about an attraction or place in AK where guests are expected to think that Indiana Jones in a South American or Central America jungle is interacting with alien animals with or without complex thinking abilities from outside Earth? Keep in mind some people in South and Central America have communicated legends/myths about beings not from Earth visiting Earth. This is similar to how some people in the world have communicated legends/myths of beings that are referred to by the name 'Yeti'.

'Disney's Human Kingdom' . . . Fifth gate?

Relative to what some people on here have described Animal Kingdom as being like and the ideas behind it, that sounds kind of what some people on here have described EPCOT Center as being like around the time when it originally opened.

Spoiler

(The movie doesn't exactly have to do with Indiana Jones and I've mentioned this before, but the Zootopia city in the Zootopia movie is kind of like some ideas there were at some points for concepts referred to as 'E.P.C.O.T.' (or at least I think Judy Hopps thinks of the city in such as way around the beginning of the movie). Some of the concept art for the movie showed areas even more similar to some ideas that there were at some points in time for concepts referred to as 'The Florida Project' in addition to E.P.C.O.T.)

 

[larryz]

"Valley of the Dinosaurs"

Isn't that Ellen over there in the bushes on the right?

 

[Jones14]

Dinosaur is not on the level of Tower of Terror. Not one bit. I've said before that if they ever decided on an update I'd be all in favor of a total tear down and starting fresh. Just keep the fact that what ever is built remains about Dinosaurs.

You're joking, right? I've really lost any kind of interest in that concept. I just don't get what they could do with it.

*Raises hand*

They are?

Dinosaur is to DCA's Tower as Indiana Jones Adventure is to Florida's. It's a great ride in a thematically fitting, but slightly underwhelming land in a park that was light on compelling attractions when it opened. Just because it has a cousin that many like better in a completely different park across the country doesn't mean that it should be redressed to fit an IP that Disney suddenly started caring about after more than twenty years of ignoring it.

If Disney wants a new Indiana Jones attraction, great.
If Disney wants a new Indiana Jones attraction in Animal Kingdom, fine, I guess.
But if Disney throws a 22 year old overlay over the top of a very popular attraction (that is in better condition than 90% of the park's attractions, mind you), then they've truly forgotten how to run a theme park in service of an IP that would be better served in two other parks anyway.

 

[Mike730]

If Disney wants a new Indiana Jones attraction, great.
If Disney wants a new Indiana Jones attraction in Animal Kingdom, fine, I guess.
But if Disney throws a 22 year old overlay over the top of a very popular attraction (that is in better condition than 90% of the park's attractions, mind you), then they've truly forgotten how to run a theme park in service of an IP that would be better served in two other parks anyway.

These are my thoughts exactly!

 

[No Name]

Animal Kingdom really doesn't have a difficult theme to build on, if only the top of the chain would allow it.

I always assumed the Sea in DisneySea was refering to Society of Explorers and Adventurers other wise known as (S.E.A.).

That was thought of after, in part to bridge the name with the theme. The name dates back to the original late 80s proposal for Long Beach California, and S.E.A wasn't thought of until Tokyo picked up the concept.

 

[FigmentJedi]

So Fresh Baked is saying there could be an Indy hotel, a la Star Wars hotel, to go along with this rumored land. This is the first I've heard of it, unless it was mentioned in here and I just didn't see it. Unlikely though since that would be a pretty tasty rumor.

I don't really see how Indy could lend itself to a decent hotel hyper-immersion experience on its own. Unless if you just went "Screw it, it's the Adventurers Club on steroids" and Dr. Jones is part of a greater ensemble of SEA characters interacting with guests throughout the experience.

 

[Thanks phoenicians]

Dinosaur is to DCA's Tower as Indiana Jones Adventure is to Florida's. It's a great ride in a thematically fitting, but slightly underwhelming land in a park that was light on compelling attractions when it opened. Just because it has a cousin that many like better in a completely different park across the country doesn't mean that it should be redressed to fit an IP that Disney suddenly started caring about after more than twenty years of ignoring it.

If Disney wants a new Indiana Jones attraction, great.
If Disney wants a new Indiana Jones attraction in Animal Kingdom, fine, I guess.
But if Disney throws a 22 year old overlay over the top of a very popular attraction (that is in better condition than 90% of the park's attractions, mind you), then they've truly forgotten how to run a theme park in service of an IP that would be better served in two other parks anyway.

Only way it is justifiable is if it's part of a retheming of the entire area to IJ. In that case it makes sense. If it is just rethemed into IJ as a standalone then yes that'll be disappointing

 

[No Name]

Only way it is justifiable is if it's part of a retheming of the entire area to IJ. In that case it makes sense. If it is just rethemed into IJ as a standalone then yes that'll be disappointing

Well in my opinion an Indiana Jones land doesn't make sense in conjunction with the rest if the park. How do Pandora, Africa, Asia, and Indiana Jones Land flow together? The first three are places, the last is a human.

I think, if they're getting rid of Dinosaur, they should go full South America.