Coming Soon - 'Discovery Bay' overlay / rebuild over exsisting 'Galaxy's Edge' remains (opens 2022)No, the lesson that should be learned is Don't Mess with Disneyland. Batuu is not Disneyland.
Disney designed and built a land that intentionally ignored what makes Disneyland great, and the crowds didn't come. Basic design and storytelling principles were ignored. Actual substance was ignored for fluff lingo and design to give the impression of depth.
Not to mention the myriad of changes made to Disneyland's pricing structure in anticipation for Galaxy's Edge since 2015. And the Stardust alterations present throughout the rest of the park, harming Disneyland's beauty to anticipate crowds that haven't shown up.
Instead of building a real D ticket attraction with depth and intriguing design, we got a half hearted video game that both seeks to distance itself from the original trilogy, but also rely on that nostalgia for it's appeal.
Instead of designing a land that's intended to integrate and improve Disneyland's mythology, we got a land that ignores the rest of the park in an attempt to create more 'immersive' storytelling.
The rest of the park are lands intended to reside within Disneyland, USA. It's why you see it written on the Twain for example. Galaxy's Edge is intended to reside on Batuu. This is confusing and disjointing. It also causes guests to hold the land to a different standard- many idiosyncrasies present throughout Disneyland are ignored because, well, Disneyland! It's the identity of the park, and it's why the park is beloved. Galaxy's Edge won't get this same luxury, and because of this- the land will be far less charming than what's been built before.
I'm speaking for myself only here, but I'd take 2014 Disneyland with Fantasmic, the longer river, and planters+curbs any day over the 2019 iteration of the park.
How can they survey someone who is not in their park?But the survey needs to be from NON-guests, asking them why they are not visiting Disneyland as a destination this summer.
Yes, pricing and scared of extra large crowds will be two main responses. Also a large percentage who just don't like Theme/Amusement parks in general.
But if a question was, would having Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Princess Lela, C3P0 and R2D2 doing character visits, entertainment, featured on attractions, etc. help influence you to visiting the park, I think you would have many positive responses.
This won't have any effect on the Asian Parks whatsoever... apart from them being even less likely to hawk Star Wars on a very uninterested Chinese market.I believe we are about to enter another period similar to the early 2000s where Disney is going to only invest in cheap rides. I really enjoy Galaxy's Edge as a theme park fan, but I think the era of the Mega Lands is going to come to an abrupt end and all those proposed lands for Tokyo and Paris are about to be slashed.
I further wonder if the rammifications are farther reaching and if Universal is still going to pursue Super Nintendo World.
Only the OT cast were at the lands dedication tooThis.
The message is "Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge". The marketing is "Fly the Millennium Falcon" with it looking like it's straight out of the OT (radar dish notwithstanding).
Batuu? What's Batuu? I see ads for a cantina, I see kids hugging Chewie.
They ESSENTIALLY ARE marketing it as a OT land. And if RotR was open, you can bet they'd show that AT-AT money shot over and over.
Disney is probably very relived that they are only building RotR and one or two shops and food stands for Star Wars in Paris.Now, Walt Disney Studios Paris? If Galaxy's Edge fails to launch correctly at DHS in the Fall as well, I could see ramifications there. But this needs to be a much longer trend, the ripples are mostly going to be limited to TDA and cause the TDO planners to go into marketing overdrive (and not attempt to suppress their crowds whatsoever).
Zelda (Indy style dark ride) and Animal Crossing (town with walk-around characters and a comical dark ride) should definitely be next. And if they can talk the Pokemon Co. into going along, a Pokemon area would be insanely great. Other properties like Kirby, Star Fox, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Pikmin, etc. could all appear in various forms in a "Smash" Plaza area. I, personally, would also build a Rhythm Heaven Cafe.IMHO, considering Super Nintendo World as a single IP land is incorrect. The strength of SNW is that, even if it is primarly based on Mario and friends in Phase 1, Universal will be able to add any other franchises that is under the Nintendo brand (Zelda, Splatoon, Kirby, Animal Crossing...) in the future to diversify the offering and appeal to everyone. The only difference with "classic" lands like Fantasyland is that it will feature immersive environments.
This is a good point and something I did not realize.This won't have any effect on the Asian Parks whatsoever... apart from them being even less likely to hawk Star Wars on a very uninterested Chinese market.
The Asian parks are all locked in by their partners.
Now, Walt Disney Studios Paris? If Galaxy's Edge fails to launch correctly at DHS in the Fall as well, I could see ramifications there. But this needs to be a much longer trend, the ripples are mostly going to be limited to TDA and cause the TDO planners to go into marketing overdrive (and not attempt to suppress their crowds whatsoever).
IF the effect is sustained, then things also will get pretty interesting.
Totally agree. I also do not like Disney thinking the fans are stupid by forcing ST stuff on them for their "synergy". SW fans know better.Where to start? Star Wars has deeper issues. The sequel trilogy & Solo are examples of Disney killing the golden goose. They had one job and they screwed the Porg. They gave us Galaxy's Edge with First Order/Resistance when people rather have the Empire/Rebellion.
Disney doesn't own Tokyo. Paris is another issue. They should revisit their plans for Paris when they can still make a course correction.
How about a survey that they would rather visit Tatooine.
I always thought it was silly that years after Star Wars being announced and them not giving it a name, they named it "Galaxy's Edge" or "Blackspire Outpost" (pick a name). Everyone for years called it Star Wars Land. It would've made more sense to just call it Star Wars Land. The marketing should also say "Star Wars Land". Poor choice on their part, no one wants to say "Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge".I will say this...
Choosing to call it "Carsland" suddenly seems brilliant.
I expect budget cuts unfortunately instead of stuff being added in. That's usually how the parks operate.It will be interesting to see if they add stuff back and act like "Alrighty, preview time is over, NOW the land is really open!"
But no - they will wait and see if RotR does the trick all by itself.
Just like Eisner did when he hoped ToT was enough for DCA.
I know they are already invested in Marvel Land, but it already is much smaller scale than Star Wars to my understanding and seems underwhelming. I also agree that it's too soon to call SW an epic failure. However, it is not even close to what people expected in terms of admission. Certainly it is causing a bit of a panic at the park. APs that can visit and have discounted admission is not the solution. Lowering general admission is.Forgetting SW:GE specifics for a second, to answer the OP question.
Yes Disney will be investing building another "land". In fact speaking of DLR specifically they are doing so just across the Esplanade with Marvel. The real question is will Disney spend the same amount as they did with SW:GE on future projects, only time will tell on that one. I suspect we'll be able to gauge that question after D23.
Going back to SW:GE, its still far to early to say SW:GE is some epic failure that will change the course of Disney or other theme park industry investments. These short term issues will subside and be a distant memory soon enough. Once APs are unleashed, DHS SW:GE opens, and ROTR open in both coasts we'll be able to get a better sense of SW:GEs impact on the larger theme park industry.
I agree with this. The problem is Disney thinks "Star Wars Fans" are into anything Star Wars and follow all the lore and all the extended universe stuff. The truth is that the majority of people who bought tickets to see the Star Wars films are just people wanting to be entertained. A land based on the extended universe of Star Wars isn't appealing to most people.I’m the type who would like to explore Star Wars Land to trace the movies. The only attraction that has this is the Millennium Falcon and only on the outside and the inside with the chess table. The queue line gives us absolutely nothing. The Cantina is an entirely new creation. Batuu is completely new. The shops are new. There’s nothing really there to attract customers who want to explore Batuu who they’re not familiar with like they do at Hogsmead and Diagon Alley. Batuu is a fake and lame substitute. So there’s goes their main attraction. I imagined a true Star Wars Land would include a visit in a Death Star and Empire Starship. We have to wait next year to see it in Rise of Resistance in a sequel trilogy version. Oh well.