Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
My understanding is the Riviera and Ft Wilderness Cabins are not selling well at all ... Will be interesting to see how the new Poly tower sells as demand *should* be high given the location, but we shall see
Well the “cabins” look like they were purchased from the Home Depot storage shed inventory and turned into tiny homes (barely)

Waiting for the All-Star Villas to begin sales next
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
My understanding is the Riviera and Ft Wilderness Cabins are not selling well at all ... Will be interesting to see how the new Poly tower sells as demand *should* be high given the location, but we shall see

As mentioned, it’s a two part tale.

DVC actually had an excellent summer. RIV sales were strongest they’ve been in four years. Some of their sales incentives on sold out resorts did well.

Riviera has actually overall been an ok selling resort - not even factoring in the litany of excuses, pandemic, competing products. It still actually has done fine. I think the noise to the contrary comes from the membership being upset over the resale restrictions. Or from its Westin-like appearance. It’s just a very large DVC resort.

CFW on the other hand is indeed abysmal. Historically so by orders of magnitude. To the point they pretty much just seem to be pretending it doesn’t exist.


 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
As mentioned, it’s a two part tale.

DVC actually had an excellent summer. RIV sales were strongest they’ve been in four years. Some of their sales incentives on sold out resorts did well.

Riviera has actually overall been an ok selling resort - not even factoring in the litany of excuses, pandemic, competing products. It still actually has done fine. I think the noise to the contrary comes from the membership being upset over the resale restrictions. Or from its Westin-like appearance. It’s just a very large DVC resort.

CFW on the other hand is indeed abysmal. Historically so by orders of magnitude. To the point they pretty much just seem to be pretending it doesn’t exist.



I think you might be in a PR machine loop with these sales figures
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
It’s lovely to visit when I’m at my discounted CBR room, but 32k is just wild to me.
For that? Built on the Caribbean bell stand?

Just not for me. I also…well documented on the DIS…HATED what it represented

A statement that the quality of the build didn’t matter as much as the plot.

But hey…it’s not like they’re trying to sell prefab Home Depot sheds with ZERO amenities now or anything…

That slope has melted butter on it
 

Miss Bella

Well-Known Member
I was on Disney cruise a couple of weeks ago and I made the mistake of sitting in a chair in the DVC area because I needed to make a phone call and they weren't open yet and it was a quiet place. Unfortunately they opened while I was on my phone call and they pounced as soon as I hung up.

I told them I could rent points from DVC owners that don't want to go, and stay for a week for around 2-3k. I figure yearly maintenance fees are close to that. Why would I pay 30k plus for a contract and then pay 2k a year maintenance fees when I can just rent points from members and not be tied down?

I think it was great for people that bought 20 years ago and WDW was a better vacation, but now no way.

I just got back and I'm not sure I'll ever go back.
 

JD80

Well-Known Member
Just looking at prices for a trip next summer. Family of six (Wife and I, 3 kids and my mother) and our options are limited because Disney hates parties of 6 and 7.

Time is mid July - all rack rates.

AoA Family Suites $590 to $650 ($590 if Disney picks theme, $650 if you pick Nemo, otherwise $610ish)
Two Moderate Rooms $660 to $700ish
DVC Cabins $510!

Basically $100 less per night for a family of 6 next year. This has me thinking. Previously Cabins were the same if not more.

No clue if they get discounted compared to AoA or other mods.
 

JoeCamel

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Just looking at prices for a trip next summer. Family of six (Wife and I, 3 kids and my mother) and our options are limited because Disney hates parties of 6 and 7.

Time is mid July - all rack rates.

AoA Family Suites $590 to $650 ($590 if Disney picks theme, $650 if you pick Nemo, otherwise $610ish)
Two Moderate Rooms $660 to $700ish
DVC Cabins $510!

Basically $100 less per night for a family of 6 next year. This has me thinking. Previously Cabins were the same if not more.

No clue if they get discounted compared to AoA or other mods.
Show them your KoA card for an additional 5% off at the cabins.....
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Just looking at prices for a trip next summer. Family of six (Wife and I, 3 kids and my mother) and our options are limited because Disney hates parties of 6 and 7.

Time is mid July - all rack rates.

AoA Family Suites $590 to $650 ($590 if Disney picks theme, $650 if you pick Nemo, otherwise $610ish)
Two Moderate Rooms $660 to $700ish
DVC Cabins $510!

Basically $100 less per night for a family of 6 next year. This has me thinking. Previously Cabins were the same if not more.

No clue if they get discounted compared to AoA or other mods.
You’re still getting ripped off…and they’ll jack tickets again between now and then…but at least that helps you some
 

seabreezept813

Well-Known Member
Just looking at prices for a trip next summer. Family of six (Wife and I, 3 kids and my mother) and our options are limited because Disney hates parties of 6 and 7.

Time is mid July - all rack rates.

AoA Family Suites $590 to $650 ($590 if Disney picks theme, $650 if you pick Nemo, otherwise $610ish)
Two Moderate Rooms $660 to $700ish
DVC Cabins $510!

Basically $100 less per night for a family of 6 next year. This has me thinking. Previously Cabins were the same if not more.

No clue if they get discounted compared to AoA or other mods.
When we priced out this year we got the best deal at Caribbean Beach for 5 people. But when we weren't sure if my mom was coming, which would have pushed us to 6, the best option was 2 Pop rooms.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Was just randomly checking wait times, and at almost 11am local time going into a holiday weekend I didn’t see anything over 50 minutes in any park. And that’s Disney wait time, so that 50 is probably closer to 30. We’ll be there toward the end of next week, so I hope the trend holds.
Parks are mobbed…had a lovely exchange with two 20 somethings ex Cp clinging to Orlando like Leeches the other day assure me of that.

Which is why I never do that…and never will again

Next time I go on something called…”X”….it’s gonna be for what that letter was invented for…

One of them even tried the “supreme dig/own” of “i bet you have a shrine to splash mountain in your house”

OHHHHHHH!! What wit!

Which means not only are younger gen’s communications skill and logical construct understanding falling behind…their senses of humor also are not developing at all.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
So I’m going to be at MNSSHP in early October for one evening during what otherwise will be a HHN trip. I made all my dining reservations at Universal, and on a lark I thought why don’t I look to see if I can get a lunch reservation at a Monorail resort. Happened to get my ideal time (2:00) at my top choice Steakhouse 71. Approximately 1 month out, during the busy Halloween season. 😮
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
So I’m going to be at MNSSHP in early October for one evening during what otherwise will be a HHN trip. I made all my dining reservations at Universal, and on a lark I thought why don’t I look to see if I can get a lunch reservation at a Monorail resort. Happened to get my ideal time (2:00) at my top choice Steakhouse 71. Approximately 1 month out, during the busy Halloween season. 😮
I thought October was the new busy season.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
I was on Disney cruise a couple of weeks ago and I made the mistake of sitting in a chair in the DVC area because I needed to make a phone call and they weren't open yet and it was a quiet place. Unfortunately they opened while I was on my phone call and they pounced as soon as I hung up.

I told them I could rent points from DVC owners that don't want to go, and stay for a week for around 2-3k. I figure yearly maintenance fees are close to that. Why would I pay 30k plus for a contract and then pay 2k a year maintenance fees when I can just rent points from members and not be tied down?

I think it was great for people that bought 20 years ago and WDW was a better vacation, but now no way.

I just got back and I'm not sure I'll ever go back.
I have never been able to wrap my head around the case for buying into DVC or any timeshare. I just don't see how it is ever a better option than to just book a hotel when and where I want to go on vacation.

I get owning a vacation home that you can go to whenever you want and rent out to offset the cost if you desire. That also builds equity and you can likely sell it at a profit if you don't want to have it anymore.
 

Dranth

Well-Known Member
I have never been able to wrap my head around the case for buying into DVC or any timeshare. I just don't see how it is ever a better option than to just book a hotel when and where I want to go on vacation.

I get owning a vacation home that you can go to whenever you want and rent out to offset the cost if you desire. That also builds equity and you can likely sell it at a profit if you don't want to have it anymore.
For most timeshares I would say no but DVC has worked well for a ton of people. Anyone who jumped on it early got an insane value. Those later, a good deal. More recent folks, not so much though it can still work out for people depending on what/when and where they buy.
 
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Chi84

Premium Member
I have never been able to wrap my head around the case for buying into DVC or any timeshare. I just don't see how it is ever a better option than to just book a hotel when and where I want to go on vacation.

I get owning a vacation home that you can go to whenever you want and rent out to offset the cost if you desire. That also builds equity and you can likely sell it at a profit if you don't want to have it anymore.
We bought 200 points in 2008 for around $18,000 and it’s worked out great for us. (The market crashed almost immediately after we bought lol.) We usually stay at SSR because we can walk to DS but have also stayed at Kidani and Riviera.

Too many reasons to go into as to why it works, but just as an example this year we are taking our family of 10 and staying in a 2BR and a studio at SSR on points. The full kitchen and in-room laundry facilities are great with our young grandchildren.

All our family vacations to WDW are DVC and I generally price them out to see what the rooms would have cost. We’ve done very well for our particular circumstances.
 

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