Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[JD80]

I've posted this a few times, but I'll post it again because some people don't realize this.

First two blocks of 2023 and 2019 show the average cost of a single ticket in that year, all price are adjusted for inflation with a factor of 1.19. Going across each block will show you the cost of a single ticket based on how many you buy, the savings per ticket you receive by buying more, the total cost for a single person and then the total cost for a family of 4.

For example, for a 6 day ticket, in 2023 each ticket cost $116, you saved $16 per ticket based on quantity (from 5 to 6), for a total cost of $696 for you.

Compared to 2019 that cost per tick was $83 for a total of $500.

Reading the last block of 2023 vs 2019, that same trip cost you an extra $196 adjusted for inflation. In the space of four years, you 6 day trip got $200 more expensive per person for no real reason other than a price increase.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

In the space of four years, you 6 day trip got $200 more expensive per person for no real reason other than a price increase.

Not to mention having to pay for FastPass now vs 4 year ago.

 

[Ayla]

Not to mention having to pay for FastPass now vs 4 year ago.

And transportation to and from WDW from MCO.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

And transportation to and from WDW from MCO.

Getting rid of free FastPass and Magical Express may not be seen as big a letdown to Disney fans as other WDW closures, but they've probably had the biggest, most immediate negative impact to a large % of WDW customers in recent memory.

 

[Ayla]

Getting rid of free FastPass and Magical Express may not be seen as big a letdown to Disney fans as other WDW closures, but they've probably had the biggest, most immediate negative impact to a large % of WDW customers in recent memory.

Agreed.

 

[seabreezept813]

I find it amazing for so many people here that claim they travel a lot don't notice how more expensive things are.

Are Disney hotels over priced? 100%. I just don't think they are as dramatically overpriced as people think. I've stayed at Hilton Garden Inns or Hampton Inns in the middle of no where Arkansas or Michigan and they are close to $200 a night.

A hotel at the most visited theme park in the world? Of course they are going to be more expensive. I just don't think they aggressively so.

It’s the tickets that make the trip so expensive!

 

[Sonconato]

If you were at Magic kingdom Saturday, you would a big no to the crowds being down.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

If you were at Magic kingdom Saturday, you would a big no to the crowds being down.

It's that time of year when MK on non-party nights is extra busy.

 

[Thepuma]

Just got a push notification from My Disney Experience - Magic Kingdom has extended park hours today until 11pm.

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They aren't daft...thats another 60 minutes of LL+ $20 they can sell.

 

[Thepuma]

I know people absolutely cr*p on Value resorts but how much money are people saving by staying off property? Im genuinely curious. After either paying for an uber or parking fees if renting a car (not sure if hotels offer free shuttles) add in resort fees im guessing they charge for off site and then the time factor it now takes to get to the parks by staying off property.

We stayed off property and we got breakfast included, evening food included, parking included, regular buses to the parks included, alcoholic drink included.....saved a fortune over the Disney budget resorts and got a hotel room way way better than the motel style budget Disneys.

 

[Thepuma]

For as busy as everyone thinks Disney is still attended, wow. Universal ok the weekends in this slow time of year, before HHN even gets to October is a different world.
ET was at a 45 minute wait today and Revenge of The Mummy 75. Hours before HHN.

On our recent trip Universal was busier than we have ever known it - have no idea why, but the number of people in these parks certainly not coming down, if anything they are all getting busier.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disillusioned Disney Fans: Attendance at WDW is down because of angering reasons and shows Disney is failing. That's why everyone's going to Universal instead.

Also Disillusioned Disney Fans: Universal is too crowded!!

 

[Thepuma]

Disillusioned Disney Fans: Attendance at WDW is down because of angering reasons and shows Disney is failing. That's why everyone's going to Universal instead.

Also Disillusioned Disney Fans: Universal is too crowded!!

Except Disney attendance isn't down. Both Disney and Universal are busy parks.

 

[LSLS]

Except Disney attendance isn't down. Both Disney and Universal are busy parks.

We will see when the quarterly reports come out. WDW was down last quarter if I remember correctly, and I don't think anyone would argue that hotel bookings are definitely down.

 

[Jrb1979]

With the new discounts coming out today it's not sounding like it's getting better any time soon.

Book by December 15th and get up to 30% off most nights through March 24th. Sounds like they can't even fill resorts for spring break

 

[lentesta]

Except Disney attendance isn't down. Both Disney and Universal are busy parks.

I'd bet a Cosmic Ray's lunch that Disney's domestic 2023 attendance numbers will be lower than 2022. I could be wrong.

 

[networkpro]

One thing I've noticed that's peculiar, is that while the ride lines and parade routes are still choked full of people, you can get either day of or standby table service reservations to almost any location in any park or resort.

 

[LSLS]

One thing I've noticed that's peculiar, is that while the ride lines and parade routes are still choked full of people, you can get either day of or standby table service reservations to almost any location in any park or resort.

Same with hotel stays. Which means either A.) They are not running anything close to capacity which is keeping lines longer than they should be, B.) The constant eliminations of perks and quality have finally caught up to them and people aren't going to pay those exorbitant prices for the lack of stuff, or C.) Equal parts of both.

 

[mysto]

Same with hotel stays. Which means either A.) They are not running anything close to capacity which is keeping lines longer than they should be, B.) The constant eliminations of perks and quality have finally caught up to them and people aren't going to pay those exorbitant prices for the lack of stuff, or C.) Equal parts of both.

D) Lots of AP visits.

... but I think the others you note count too, especially running below capacity.

 

[Joel]

I'd bet a Cosmic Ray's lunch that Disney's domestic 2023 attendance numbers will be lower than 2022. I could be wrong.

OK, but how many supermodel dates are you willing to put on the line?