Splash4eva
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Exactly. My Dad retired in Vegas (Henderson) no way he be able to afford to still live in NY if he didnt.
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solidyne
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Oh, you had a good point. Wasn't quoting or replying to you.
The "class envy" stuff (and I'm admittedly susceptible) just gets ugly and unproductive.
My relative a retired IRS auditor has lived in the same apt in Manhattan since the early 1970s. She loves being in a rent controlled environment. That's how she can retire in NYC, travel and live well.
Magenta Panther
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Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Lets all put on our shocked faces with this downgrade
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JoeCamel
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Poor building owner....
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
If you’re that scared of Orlando…might I recommend Youngstown, Ohio?
Key word “typically”(sheepishly looks away as my trip was booked a couple months in advance)
I owned a hotel on 192 by 535. I was also a reserve deputy with OCSO as I am a retired LEO. That area of 192 had a few issues, but was also very safe. No cars were being broken into at the area hotels. There was little or no crime except a lot drug use and pan handlers. Our instructions from the Sheriff were to pick up any pan handlers or wayward souls and give them a free ride East to farther down 192 closer to the city of Kissimmee. Then we would give them a strong suggestion to stay out of the tourist area. Most of the tourist area of 192 is not in the city of Kissimmee, but in unincorporated Osceola county. If you go East of Medieval Times after 10 PM, things can get a bit dicey, but not urban bad areas bad. As the tourist area of 192 continues to move West, the bad creeps. In the next 10 years the good bad cut off may be 535. When the tourist market went crap in 2008/2009 most 192 hotels needed to fill rooms. People lost there homes and needed a place to live. It was a symbiotic community. Our 2 star hotel was 3 miles from Main gate and I am not going to lie, we took a hit, but I had seen it coming and grabbed every Disney subcontractor we could. This is when they were expanding Fantasyland. We stayed at about 90% full ( never go above 95% ), and we refused to take locals. The Osceola school buses would stop at half the hotels on 192 dropping off kids but it does not make it a bad place. The parents had their kids in school and had a roof over their head. Several of my own employees lived at neighboring hotels. Off my soap box, but violent crime by locals on 192 is rare in the tourist area. Tourists on the other hand have "paid big money for their vacation " and will do what they want. Over 80% of our calls for service were domestic or alcohol related and probably 90% were tourists.
IanDLBZF
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I guess some of you may have spoken too soon....
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Magic Kingdom Is Sold Out for Fourth of July 2023
Magic Kingdom is completely sold out for the Fourth of July. The Disney Park Pass reservation calendar shows no availability for all tickets
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Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
The 4th is historically one of the days MK closed to capacity long before anyone ever heard of Park Pass Reservations.
IanDLBZF
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And they didn't close for capacity in 2016-2019.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
And yet there’s availability at each resort other than Polynesian over the next few days, and there’s plenty of reservations tomorrow for BOG, Liberty Tree Tavern, 50’s Prime Time, Hollywood Derby, Oga’s, Crystal Palace, sci Fi drive in…I guess some of you may have spoken too soon....
Magic Kingdom Is Sold Out for Fourth of July 2023
Magic Kingdom is completely sold out for the Fourth of July. The Disney Park Pass reservation calendar shows no availability for all tickets
pre-covid capacity closure was significantly higher than current reservation capacity.
Jrb1979
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Their invincible right @Disstevefan1.I guess some of you may have spoken too soon....
Magic Kingdom Is Sold Out for Fourth of July 2023
Magic Kingdom is completely sold out for the Fourth of July. The Disney Park Pass reservation calendar shows no availability for all tickets
TheMaxRebo
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Definitely a lot of people just going for the flyover and the fireworks vs a full day
This is one scenario where I think there is a benefit to the reservation system as if you want to see the 4th of July Fireworks, just make a reservation and you are set - can show up whenever you want vs feeling pressure to get there early Incase they close due to capacity (only needed a handful of days a year of course, not standard operating procedures)
As of 10:45
MK
7DMT 90
SM 35
TM 35
HM 35
POTC 30
PP 60
JC 50
Epcot
Soarin 45
TT 70
MS 40
Rat 20
Frozen 55
DHS
TOT 90
RNR 50
SDD Closed
MMRR 105
ROTR 110
MF 60
ST 10
Muppets 10
Toy Story 40
Swirling 35
DAK
FOP 80
Navi 70
Safaries 35
Kali 20
EE 20
D! 10
Slightly lower than normal waits for this time of the day. The only exception being DAK which seems much lower than were it should be. Of course this is the Disney provided numbers, so they are likely inflated in respect to what the actual wait time is.
Not an impressive showing for an extended Holiday weekend.
MK
7DMT 90
SM 35
TM 35
HM 35
POTC 30
PP 60
JC 50
Epcot
Soarin 45
TT 70
MS 40
Rat 20
Frozen 55
DHS
TOT 90
RNR 50
SDD Closed
MMRR 105
ROTR 110
MF 60
ST 10
Muppets 10
Toy Story 40
Swirling 35
DAK
FOP 80
Navi 70
Safaries 35
Kali 20
EE 20
D! 10
Slightly lower than normal waits for this time of the day. The only exception being DAK which seems much lower than were it should be. Of course this is the Disney provided numbers, so they are likely inflated in respect to what the actual wait time is.
Not an impressive showing for an extended Holiday weekend.
WDW should definitely make Independence Day a week-long celebration.
WDW should also update their ID fireworks show... it's awful*.
*Says this shill.
WDW should also update their ID fireworks show... it's awful*.
*Says this shill.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I have little doubt those are 200% actuals
Making it far less than an early 90s kinda crowd
Coaster Lover
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
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Like climate change, you can't read into a single event when trying to prove or disprove a trend. You need to look at patterns over a longer period of time to truly make a claim one way or another.I guess some of you may have spoken too soon....
Magic Kingdom Is Sold Out for Fourth of July 2023
Magic Kingdom is completely sold out for the Fourth of July. The Disney Park Pass reservation calendar shows no availability for all tickets
While it seems like they will have a packed 4th of July, the general data over the course of weeks/months seems to suggest that (overall) attendance is down.