Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Correction:

TV/cable money and box office money.

Movies haven’t been more than 10% for a very long time

Cable…free money…was around 50% 20 years ago…

Now it’s plummeting below 30%

 

[GhostHost1000]

Idk if this is the right thread, but according to the site that shall not be named, a guest went swimming in the Rivers of America…Well there’s an attendance idea!

I wonder if that attraction will be considered tier 1 or 2?

 

[PREMiERdrum]

Idk if this is the right thread, but according to the site that shall not be named, a guest went swimming in the Rivers of America…Well there’s an attendance idea!

Talk about an activation.

 

[lewisc]

Idk if this is the right thread, but according to the site that shall not be named, a guest went swimming in the Rivers of America…Well there’s an attendance idea!

Should be an up charged activity, similar to swimming in the big fish tank.

 

[JD80]

I wanted to book a trip this fall for just the wife and I and the hotels are still not ehat I consider decent prices. Wanted to look at AKL and could not find pricing anywhere near what I saw in the first half of the year.

 

[Splash4eva]

They can’t reduce wait times TOO much…regardless of crowd levels.

They gotta sell them LL’s

Altho i agree i still dont see how anyone would willingly choose to wait 30 minutes if there was a way to avoid it…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I wanted to book a trip this fall for just the wife and I and the hotels are still not ehat I consider decent prices. Wanted to look at AKL and could not find pricing anywhere near what I saw in the first half of the year.

Then you say no.

That’s not based on demand…they have tons of inventory not booked.

They want to break you

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Altho i agree i still dont see how anyone would willingly choose to wait 30 minutes if there was a way to avoid it…

Cause it’s stupid to double pay for things before you even get into the park?

Especially when the majority is old and/or tired

 

[Splash4eva]

Cause it’s stupid to double pay for things before you even get into the park?

Especially when the majority is old and/or tired

I get not wanting to pay extra but to me once you make that initial investment to spend that of money an extra 6-7% of my overall trip to make it “better” yea im gonna be the sucka and pay it

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I get not wanting to pay extra but to me once you make that initial investment to spend that of money an extra 6-7% of my overall trip to make it “better” yea im gonna be the sucka and pay it

You asked why?

I gave you the common sense…almost obvious answer

 

[JoeCamel]

I get not wanting to pay extra but to me once you make that initial investment to spend that of money an extra 6-7% of my overall trip to make it “better” yea im gonna be the sucka and pay it

Bob sez it has to be 10%, he is playing you

 

[Splash4eva]

You asked why?

I gave you the common sense…almost obvious answer

Listen i get the why & understand the reason but if thats the case noone should ever go back anytime soon bc lets face it the product is stale overpriced & underwhelming but once you bite the bullet may as well go all in

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

but once you bite the bullet may as well go all in

…they’re expecting that. It causes more margin pushing and product decline.

You can have fun and have standards. Not mutually exclusive

 

[JoeCamel]

…they’re expecting that. It causes more margin pushing and product decline.

You can have fun and have standards. Not mutually exclusive

Lotto is up to 4 bazzilion so I guess a few hundred would be a good bet......

 

[LSLS]

If you really don't think that, and you do think the sky is falling... when? When will we actally see the negative impact of all this bad management? Another year? Five? A decade from now?

Last year, when attendance, revenue, and profit all fell at WDW, and according to all insiders here, bookings are dropping even more this year.

 

[John park hopper]

We’re looking at Princess for our upcoming Alaska cruise, we’re still Disney fans at heart so we give them first preference but all the reviews are leading us to the Princess land and sea package though.

I don’t think the “new Disney” is going to create devoted fans that will stick with them like us old timers do, I still have a huge devotion to Uncle Walts company because it was such a massive part of my childhood, it feels like everything they do is trying to drive us away though.

We did Holland America for our Alaska trip 12 days it was outstanding the service, food. entertainment. Did our trip first part of June 1 rainy day all the rest beautiful weather

 

[Andrew25]

Len brought an interesting point on the Disney Dish this week... why hasn't TEA released info yet on 2023 attendance? While not 100% accurate, it does paint a picture on trends and could signal distress to investors.

Last year it was released in June, and that was already pretty late.

 

[wdisney9000]

I wanted to book a trip this fall for just the wife and I and the hotels are still not ehat I consider decent prices. Wanted to look at AKL and could not find pricing anywhere near what I saw in the first half of the year.

Same here. The prices for fall and Christmas are a tad ridiculous. $650 for a Deluxe Resort studio room with AP discount. And that's for the resort view.

That price was for the the Boardwalk resorts in November through first 2 weeks of December. I added the tax for what the total cost of the room would be.

Those prices, IMO are ridiculous for being AP discount. We've stayed in the fall/winter over last few years for appx $400-450 per night with AP discount and the rooom was garden/pool view. We even had a few stays that under $400 per night.

 

[Jrb1979]

Same here. The prices for fall and Christmas are a tad ridiculous. $650 for a Deluxe Resort studio room with AP discount. And that's for the resort view.

That price was for the the Boardwalk resorts in November through first 2 weeks of December. I added the tax for what the total cost of the room would be.

Those prices, IMO are ridiculous for being AP discount. We've stayed in the fall/winter over last few years for appx $400-450 per night with AP discount and the rooom was garden/pool view. We even had a few stays that under $400 per night.

That is insane. Especially when my wife and I can go to Myrtle Beach in October for $2000 total for a week

I get it's not directly comparable but you can see how insane their hotel prices are.

 

[wdisney9000]

That is insane. Especially when my wife and I can go to Myrtle Beach in October for $2000 total for a week

I get it's not directly comparable but you can see how insane their hotel prices are.

What's really odd is that I've been looking at the summer AP discounted rooms since they released them and haven't found any club level rooms with discount. I've checked daily over last few months since they released the discount.

But the for Fall/Winter specials, there is an abundance of Club level rooms available . But club level studios are $1,000 per night and up. Another insane price considering over last few years they've been around $600-700 per night (club level).

In fairness, I've found several Deluxe studios with summer ap discount for a decent price. WL for appx $325 per night and Boardwalk resorts for around $400.