Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[natatomic]

Ok…Disney has told everyone - cause that’s what stocks do - their attendance has been in decline for 3 quarters…go shed and lock in 4 with no end In sight.

It’s a loss…not a shift

Judge it how you like

I think it’s both.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think it’s both.

Raw numbers down means raw numbers down

That’s “definitive” in math and doesn’t blame the weather…

This isn’t about the Halloween thing Is it?

 

[natatomic]

Raw numbers down means raw numbers down

That’s “definitive” in math and doesn’t blame the weather…

This isn’t about the Halloween thing Is it?

I don’t know what the Halloween thing is.

 

[AEfx]

At some point people just can’t afford it. The dining prices are getting really out of hand, and I say that as someone with no kids. Can’t even imagine trying to pay for 2 adults and 2 kids. It’s just crazy.

I think this every time I am at the grocery store - let alone when it comes to WDW, which I agree - I just cannot imagine how much people have to spend on food, especially if they are isolated on site and can't even get off property for breakfast/snacks.

 

[Nubs70]

I think the kid's prices are a big deal because so many kids want like three nuggets and some fries.

I also think the food quality seems to have gone down a bit recently. And that's coming from me, who is a super bland eater and not at all adventurous. But even for me, some of the buffet foods and prix fixe menus have gotten a bit homogenous.

It's all about the margin... not the margarine

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

1. Eh, it's scummy for Disney to classify a 10 year-old as an adult.
2. Okay. I couldn't say. We haven't done any fixed price meals with my non-kid kids.
3. If they're kids, then I think people feel fine paying kid prices for them.

Your new profile picture is very funny btw.

It’s the established price
It’s really no different than going to the grocery store and giving $5 for a $10 item.

Do I personally agree with their pricing and policies? Not at all

But when I walk through a gate order at a restaurant…I by default have.

We can charge whatever we want for our kids at home to eat. Freedom of choice. No hostages

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

2. They care more than they used too…the waiters will bump your kids or ask if they think they’re over.

I’m a childless Disney adult but a server asking a kids age seems way over the line to me.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t know what the Halloween thing is.

Often people get so enamoured with fall/hallloween that they convince thenselves it’s the only time that matters

Not the case…at all.

Also those didn’t sell well last year either

 

[Nubs70]

I think this every time I am at the grocery store - let alone when it comes to WDW, which I agree - I just cannot imagine how much people have to spend on food, especially if they are isolated on site and can't even get off property for breakfast/snacks.

This is why so many are bypass WDW (other parks to a degree). Guests are looking to reduce the fixed costs of vacation and minimize the variable costs.

WDW is a vacation with increased fixed costs combined with "unknown" variable costs.

 

[Nubs70]

I’m a childless Disney adult but a server asking a kids age seems way over the line to me.

My kids were 9 until they were 12

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m a childless Disney adult but a server asking a kids age seems way over the line to me.

Why?
The prices are posted.

Also they have access to the majority of ages in the system…even if it’s not on the reservation

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

I do have kids that have aged into Disney adult, but I find that pricing less offensive than the overall meal price. With tickets the difference is negligible, with meals the difference is significant however it’s become across the board extreme in that the total bothers me more than what I’m paying for a 10 and 11 year old.

 

[bwr827]

I think this every time I am at the grocery store - let alone when it comes to WDW, which I agree - I just cannot imagine how much people have to spend on food, especially if they are isolated on site and can't even get off property for breakfast/snacks.

WDW makes it easy to get groceries delivered and many people do that for breakfast and snacks.

Whereas at Universal we got lightly reprimanded for ordering delivery of a few items from Walmart.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

WDW makes it easy to get groceries delivered and many people do that for breakfast and snacks.

Whereas at Universal we got lightly reprimanded for ordering delivery of a few items from Walmart.

Maybe that's why so much of the EPCOT overhaul looks like it's glorified picnic space.

 

[Tha Realest]

My kids were 9 until they were 12

When we were younger my much younger brother was “about five” for like four years.

 

[CntrlFlPete]

Like getting slapped with a wet fish in the face, isn’t it?

I put a picture on a thread of crystal palace at 1:15 in the afternoon a few weeks back…

Dead. Nobody on the verandas and maybe 25% at the tables

Wonder why? Can’t be that they want $64 for a 10 year old to eat, could it?

I took one around noon today. I think the morning folks had left already and the afternoon folks hadn't gotten there yet. I think I saw one person at the fish n chips pickup and two folks looking at the menu at the cash register.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Quick service prices are not horrible, and I say that in the context of comparing to other theme parks. But the sit down dining is egregious. I will also throw in there snacks and drinks(both booze and non alcoholic) as horribly priced. The Mickey Bars and the beers seem to go up a dollar everytime I go. I get a beer being more pricey when in a park, helps keep some drinking down(oh again why are people behaving worse at parks now compared to the old days???) but at the resorts, charging 10 bucks for Land Shark Lager is ridiculous.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Quick service prices are not horrible, and I say that in the context of comparing to other theme parks. But the sit down dining is egregious. I will also throw in there snacks and drinks(both booze and non alcoholic) as horribly priced. The Mickey Bars and the beers seem to go up a dollar everytime I go. I get a beer being more pricey when in a park, helps keep some drinking down(oh again why are people behaving worse at parks now compared to the old days???) but at the resorts, charging 10 bucks for Land Shark Lager is ridiculous.

I agree…in most cases quickserve is the best deal…

But even those are not crowded

 

[Angel Ariel]

Quick service prices are not horrible, and I say that in the context of comparing to other theme parks. But the sit down dining is egregious. I will also throw in there snacks and drinks(both booze and non alcoholic) as horribly priced. The Mickey Bars and the beers seem to go up a dollar everytime I go. I get a beer being more pricey when in a park, helps keep some drinking down(oh again why are people behaving worse at parks now compared to the old days???) but at the resorts, charging 10 bucks for Land Shark Lager is ridiculous.

The one thing I lament about WDW QS is why can't it be more like DLR's - so much more variety. We have our favorites we return to in both places of course, but man outside of epcot (festivals more often than not), QS is just sad at WDW.
Oh and churros are way too expensive. $6+$? So ridiculous.

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

We gotta stop publicly stating that quick service is still decent value. Music to Bob’s ears.